PLEASE READ 6950x PLEASE READ

[Computer Boy]

Hi everyone,

I am planning to buy the intel i7 6950x tomorrow, on intels website,

they say, its base frequence is 3
and up to 3.5

and there is the turbo which is 4.0 ghz.

so is their maximum frequency 3.5 or 4.0 with out interference like overclocking or other form of manipulation.

here is their link

http://ark.intel.com/products/94456/Intel-Core-i7-6950X-Processor-Extreme-Edition-25M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz

please let me know.

thanks

 

[Computer Boy]

But the 6950x is 10 cores and 6900k 8 cores. Lower speed is kinda expected with more cores hence why the 6850k and 6800k are 6 cores and higher clocked than both of those.

for gods sake, can someone talk to a specialist before putting down the 2400 Canadian dollars at the store non refundable?

I read all of the link a gentleman posted, and it says in intel turbo boost 3 they enhanced the max out 4 ghz feature but clearly 6950x supports the intel turbo boost 2 only.

WHAT THE **** is happening?

WHAT THE HELL?

 

[cdabc123]

calm down computer boy. read what was posted their is alot of good info. the cpu will hit close to 4 ghz with a single thread and a multiplier of 39 at 2 threads its will hit 3.8 at a multiplier of 38 at 3 threads it will be down to 3.5ghz you do not need to do anything this is what the cpu will do on its own however depending on the program you can see an advantage of disabling cores

the question is, will it hit the 4 edge by itself or through the software with the preview image (in the link) max turbo technology 3.0?

I am kinda lost not knowing what to do. I feel I want to back out the deal with this computer shop and get my money back. I don't like to buy vague items with shadowy specifications.

Intel is not being straight forward with this specific cpu.

I am LOST

it will hit 4 depending on what you are doing if you are running a single core benchmark on the computer it will hit 4. if the program is using all 20 threads it will be around 3 but that will be fine because if any program uses 20 threads you will have an excess of power. and its not strait forward because intel is trying to get everything they can out of their chips

 

[Computer Boy]

calm down computer boy. read what was posted their is alot of good info. the cpu will hit close to 4 ghz with a single thread and a multiplier of 39 at 2 threads its will hit 3.8 at a multiplier of 38 at 3 threads it will be down to 3.5ghz you do not need to do anything this is what the cpu will do on its own however depending on the program you can see an advantage of disabling cores

the question is, will it hit the 4 edge by itself or through the software with the preview image (in the link) max turbo technology 3.0?

I am kinda lost not knowing what to do. I feel I want to back out the deal with this computer shop and get my money back. I don't like to buy vague items with shadowy specifications.

Intel is not being straight forward with this specific cpu.

I am LOST

it will hit 4 depending on what you are doing if you are running a single core benchmark on the computer it will hit 4. if the program is using all 20 threads it will be around 3 but that will be fine because if any program uses 20 threads you will have an excess of power. and its not strait forward because intel is trying to get everything they can out of their chips

do I need a special software to toggle the 4.0 ghz limit or it will be toggled automatically?

What software do I need for this, what motherboard supports this bulky processor?

 

[k1114]

Clearly only supports turbo 2.0? Where did you see that? All the articles are about the 6950x and the new feature. I think you are complicating this for no reason. The max turbo isn't even relevant. If the work you are doing would be better off with 10 cores then get that. But I see no reason to get the 8 core unless you want to spend less. If it is less threaded, get a cheaper higher clocked cpu and skylake would do better for a lot less.

 

[cdabc123]

no it will happen on its own . and any 2011-3 mobo with a 140watt tdp or greater will work

 

[Computer Boy]

no it will happen on its own . and any 2011-3 mobo with a 140watt tdp or greater will work

ok. so by itself it will go up to 4.0?

if the base is 3.0 and the 6900 is 3.2, doesn't that make the 3.2 better?

 

[Computer Boy]

Clearly only supports turbo 2.0? Where did you see that? All the articles are about the 6950x and the new feature. I think you are complicating this for no reason. The max turbo isn't even relevant. If the work you are doing would be better off with 10 cores then get that. But I see no reason to get the 8 core unless you want to spend less. If it is less threaded, get a cheaper higher clocked cpu and skylake would do better for a lot less.

I don't know if vray, max, cinema 4d, 3ds max, maya, unity 3d support multi or single or dual cores. I have no idea.

So, if it goes up to 4, why does it say on intels website 3.50 not 4.0?

was it a typo?

I am not talking about money here, but I think 6900k is twice as powerful as the 6950x.

Please tell me which is better 6900k or 6950x, bare in my the 6900k has a higher ghz at 3.20 not 3.00

thanks

 

[k1114]

No it will not go to 4ghz on all mobos. In anandtech's review, they stated turbo max was disabled by default in bios and even after it was enabled, they also had to set it manually to get to 4ghz. As I stated before, it requires mobo support.

Just forget about the new feature when picking a cpu. Those software will support 10 cores and the 6950x will be faster than the 8 core 6900k. 2 more cores is more performance than .2ghz.

 

[cdabc123]

no it will happen on its own . and any 2011-3 mobo with a 140watt tdp or greater will work

ok. so by itself it will go up to 4.0?

if the base is 3.0 and the 6900 is 3.2, doesn't that make the 3.2 better?

depends on the load you will be putting on the cpu if the program will use every thread. then the 20 threads @ 3ghz of the 6950 will be better than the 16 threads @3.2 of the 6900. both cpus will preform very close to the same on programs that onlky use one or two threads as both cpus will be running close to 4 ghz then.

 

[Computer Boy]

no it will happen on its own . and any 2011-3 mobo with a 140watt tdp or greater will work

ok. so by itself it will go up to 4.0?

if the base is 3.0 and the 6900 is 3.2, doesn't that make the 3.2 better?

depends on the load you will be putting on the cpu if the program will use every thread. then the 20 threads @ 3ghz of the 6950 will be better than the 16 threads @3.2 of the 6900. both cpus will preform very close to the same on programs that onlky use one or two threads as both cpus will be running close to 4 ghz then.

this is what this gentle man wrote on top of you, please read it carefully

"No it will not go to 4ghz on all mobos. In anandtech's review, they stated turbo max was disabled by default in bios and even after it was enabled, they also had to set it manually to get to 4ghz. As I stated before, it requires mobo support.

Just forget about the new feature when picking a cpu. Those software will support 10 cores and the 6950x will be faster than the 8 core 6900k. 2 more cores is more performance than .2ghz. "

He said it should be supported in the mother board and set manually in the bios. I don't want to get into the bios as that's not what I am going to do. I don't want to play things improperly and void the warranty afterwards.

 

[cdabc123]

ok here are a few more details from intels site

"Intel® Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 uses a driver coupled with information stored in the CPU to identify and direct workloads to the fastest core on the die first. The driver also allows for custom configuration via a list that gives end users the ability to set priority to preferred applications. The driver MUST be present on the system and configured correctly, as current operating systems cannot effectively route workloads to ordered cores."

you will need to install a driver for turbo boost 3.0 to be used


and yes you do need a motherboard that supports turbo boost 3.0. you will still probably have to go into the bios and that does not void a warranty and it is relatively simple.

 

[Computer Boy]

ok here are a few more details from intels site

"Intel® Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 uses a driver coupled with information stored in the CPU to identify and direct workloads to the fastest core on the die first. The driver also allows for custom configuration via a list that gives end users the ability to set priority to preferred applications. The driver MUST be present on the system and configured correctly, as current operating systems cannot effectively route workloads to ordered cores."

you will need to install a driver for turbo boost 3.0 to be used


and yes you do need a motherboard that supports turbo boost 3.0. you will still probably have to go into the bios and that does not void a warranty and it is relatively simple.

looks like we are almost getting towards the solution. Okay, thank you for your post, it is helpful. BUT, where can I get that driver from "intel turbo boost 3.0", how do I know which motherboard supports that feature?

 

[cdabc123]

ok here are a few more details from intels site

"Intel® Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 uses a driver coupled with information stored in the CPU to identify and direct workloads to the fastest core on the die first. The driver also allows for custom configuration via a list that gives end users the ability to set priority to preferred applications. The driver MUST be present on the system and configured correctly, as current operating systems cannot effectively route workloads to ordered cores."

you will need to install a driver for turbo boost 3.0 to be used


and yes you do need a motherboard that supports turbo boost 3.0. you will still probably have to go into the bios and that does not void a warranty and it is relatively simple.

looks like we are almost getting towards the solution. Okay, thank you for your post, it is helpful. BUT, where can I get that driver from "intel turbo boost 3.0", how do I know which motherboard supports that feature?

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/25994/Intel-Turbo-Boost-Max-Technology-3-0

it should say in the features this is what intel says
" You can typically enable or disable through a switch in the desktop board BIOS. See your motherboard documentation or vendor web site for more information."

 

[k1114]

Do not confuse turbo boost with turbo boost max. It does not take over turbo boost 2.0 so calling it turbo boost 3.0 is not really correct and can confuse things. This is separate from normal turbo and is why I call it turbo max. One is built in and the other needs external support. Notice on the intel page it lists both features separately under advanced tech. http://ark.intel.com/products/94456/Intel-Core-i7-6950X-Processor-Extreme-Edition-25M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz

In case you were wondering, the reivews are using the MSI X99A Gaming Carbon

 

[Computer Boy]

Do not confuse turbo boost with turbo boost max. It does not take over turbo boost 2.0 so calling it turbo boost 3.0 is not really correct and can confuse things. This is separate from normal turbo and is why I call it turbo max. One is built in and the other needs external support. Notice on the intel page it lists both features separately under advanced tech. http://ark.intel.com/products/94456/Intel-Core-i7-6950X-Processor-Extreme-Edition-25M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz

In case you were wondering, the reivews are using the MSI X99A Gaming Carbon

glad you answered me... OK... I ordered Asus x99 deluxe ii... does this motherboard support Intel boost technology?

 

[cdabc123]

Do not confuse turbo boost with turbo boost max. It does not take over turbo boost 2.0 so calling it turbo boost 3.0 is not really correct and can confuse things. This is separate from normal turbo and is why I call it turbo max. One is built in and the other needs external support. Notice on the intel page it lists both features separately under advanced tech. http://ark.intel.com/products/94456/Intel-Core-i7-6950X-Processor-Extreme-Edition-25M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz

In case you were wondering, the reivews are using the MSI X99A Gaming Carbon

glad you answered me... OK... I ordered Asus x99 deluxe ii... does this motherboard support Intel boost technology?

yup.

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/X99-DELUXE-II/specifications/