PNY 560ti for $177 is it worth it?

[Magicmountainman]

I currently have an ATI 4890 in my system with an i7 920 and all the other goods, but I'm feeling the itch to upgrade my card for BF3. My question is, there is a deal on B&H here that brings down the price of a 560ti to a nice $177. However I'm just not quite sure about PNY, is it really worth saving the money to go with them or would I be better off getting a more expensive 560ti from a more reputable brand. Are there any better cards that would be more worth the money?

Thanks!

 

[Magicmountainman]

Yeah that's true, I'm guessing that when the beta comes out it will be a telling sign of how certain cards will perform in the game. And no, my 4890 isn't bad. 😉

 

[jjb8675309]

No problem, I'm here to prevent people overspending on slower nvidia hardware.

yeah crossfire 6870s work like ***, have you ever owned them? I have, the drivers are horrible horrible minimum fps. I'd rather have less stable performance but that just me and btw my gtx 560ti when oc'ed to 1ghz is right there with a gtx 570/6970 so why is that not the best value? I 6870 might be cheap but it will be nowhere near the performance of a ti with a nice oc

 

[eyefinity]

yeah crossfire 6870s work like ***, have you ever owned them? I have, the drivers are horrible horrible minimum fps. I'd rather have less stable performance but that just me and btw my gtx 560ti when oc'ed to 1ghz is right there with a gtx 570/6970 so why is that not the best value? I 6870 might be cheap but it will be nowhere near the performance of a ti with a nice oc

If you can't work crossfire out it's almost certainly down to user error.

You can overclock the 6950. You can unlock some of them to 6970's.

There is basically no point in buying the 560 Ti unless it is a good bit cheaper than the 6950. Overclocking is not a guarantee, and the parts that oc high generally cost more because of the higher quality board parts required. It also invalidates the warranty. The average stock 560 ti doesn't overclock anywhere near 1 GHz.

 

[jjb8675309]

^ oh yeah user error okay!? then why are there several competent users that deem crossfire crap!? I am not the only one. Im not saying they can't be modded/ oc'ed but unlocking is generally a thing of the past. If you buy a high quality model ti such as the asus dc2 or msi hawk then there is a very good chance that it will have a high oc. In the other thread where you are putting down tis having no experience with them mind you, Jack Naylor is saying that hes owned several tis and the top model ones all achieved a 1 ghz oc with very little voltage increase, Ill take real world experience over anything.

 

[eyefinity]

Also, on this "awesome" overclocking performance.

1 GHz 560 Ti's barely scrape past stock 6950's. You would pay more for a card which you have to strangle every inch of performance out of (and hope it's stable) just for 1-2 fps? I wouldn't.

 

[jjb8675309]

well depends on what game your looking at so again thanks for the biased examples, there are some games out there that the ti at stock blows away a 6950 and others where the 6950 wins but with a high oc (even 950 core) the ti will crush a 6950 in most games except for maybe a select few that heavily favor amd (AvP)

 

[jjb8675309]

Im just saying if you have no experience in owning or overclocking a ti, and I myself do then why would the OP listen to you?

Learn how to link a damn link and why not show some games that aren't heavily favored by amd gpus? I know you wouldn't bring up the old crysis 2 argument that you got shot down with the other week...

Ive said my piece so if you wanna go on and on with your bs then go ahead im out

 

[eyefinity]

Im just saying if you have no experience in owning or overclocking a ti, and I myself do then why would the OP listen to you?

Learn how to link a damn link and why not show some games that aren't heavily favored by amd gpus? I know you wouldn't bring up the old crysis 2 argument that you got shot down with the other week...

Ive said my piece so if you wanna go on and on with your bs then go ahead im out

So I need to OWN a card to be able to see what REVIEWERS WHO ARE PAID TO DO IT AS THEIR JOB are saying about it? God that's the most **** idiotic thing I've read today.

The 560 Ti is an inferior card to the 6950 in every way. EOD.

 

[eyefinity]

well depends on what game your looking at so again thanks for the biased examples, there are some games out there that the ti at stock blows away a 6950 and others where the 6950 wins but with a high oc (even 950 core) the ti will crush a 6950 in most games except for maybe a select few that heavily favor amd (AvP)

Did I link AvP? Where are those games where the 560 Ti is "crushing" a 6950? Do you actually mean Crysis 2?

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=28597&page=17

There you go, loses AvP slightly and slightly wins at Just Cause 2. Crushing victory according to you right? What do you think would happen if the 6950 was given just a teeeny weeeny little overclock? You think the 6950 might go ahead again? Hmm?

 

[spearphish]

Looking at that last 6950 that was posted, if it's such a great card, why 23% bad reviews?

And even on this site, the 560 Ti seems to be a favorite bang for the buck card, especially considering you don't have to break $200 for a card that's stable while pushing 900Mhz.

And lastly, keep in mind that Nvidia's 600 line is launching this November, (if i recall correctly). you might be able to hold on for now, and snag something bigger when everything drops in price.

 

[eyefinity]

Looking at that last 6950 that was posted, if it's such a great card, why 23% bad reviews?

And even on this site, the 560 Ti seems to be a favorite bang for the buck card, especially considering you don't have to break $200 for a card that's stable while pushing 900Mhz.

And lastly, keep in mind that Nvidia's 600 line is launching this November, (if i recall correctly). you might be able to hold on for now, and snag something bigger when everything drops in price.

The reason the 560 Ti is a "favourite" card on this site is because of the perpetual lie that it is somehow super-awesome at 1 GHz, so much that it easily beats a 6950. The fact is, the 6950 with a mild overclock would overtake it again in just about every game that didn't massively favour Nvidia.

People would actually pay more for a slower card that has to be overclocked within an inch of it's life to match the 6950. That says it all really.

 

[spearphish]

For being a 1GB seemingly stock 560 ti, competing against 2GB Sapphire 6950 models, doesn't the 560 kinda hold its own?
My last card was an XFX 5870, and it was a solid buy. You won't be disappointed with it.
And dear reader, I'm sorry your thread turned into an argument.

 

[tokencode]

If its a really a Ti for $177 I'll take 2, please post a link.

 

[FlintIronStagg]

That's the best price I've seen for that kind of performance get it!

 

[irfan88]

Why are you talking so much. Check out some GTX 560 Ti (Gigabyte SOC, ASUS TOP and MSI HAWK) reviews dude.

Here:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-gtx-560-ti-soc-review/


http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-gtx560-directcu-ii-review/1

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-560-ti-hawk-review/

read those out and then speak.

I too am an Asus GTX 560TI owner. Take my word, that thing can really match a stock GTX 570 when overclocked. I am not saying a 6950 is not good. I am just saying that the 560Ti is a bang for the buck considering the price/performance ratio.



and mind you, try to respect others. especially your senior members of this forum "jjb8675309". then you may get respect from other people too.

 

[Magicmountainman]

If its a really a Ti for $177 I'll take 2, please post a link.

It's in the OP 😀 However the price went up a bit.

And man oh man I didn't mean for this to turn into a fight! But I don't mind just don't hate each other.

However I will ask this:

1) Which card is more futureproof since I probably won't be upgrading a card for another 2-3 years?
--1GB 560ti -or- 2GB 6950 with possible unlock to a 6970 through BIOS--

2) Which card (in your opinion, since nothing is really factual yet) will play Battlefield 3 better?

3) Which card will support video editors more, since I'm also a big film guy.

Thanks again. 😉

 

[HostileDonut]

It's in the OP 😀 However the price went up a bit.

And man oh man I didn't mean for this to turn into a fight! But I don't mind just don't hate each other.

However I will ask this:

1) Which card is more futureproof since I probably won't be upgrading a card for another 2-3 years?
--1GB 560ti -or- 2GB 6950 with possible unlock to a 6970 through BIOS--

2) Which card (in your opinion, since nothing is really factual yet) will play Battlefield 3 better?

3) Which card will support video editors more, since I'm also a big film guy.

Thanks again. 😉

For future proof, the hd6950 does have 2gb RAM, and I have heard BFBC2 prefers AMD cards. Also, you can unlock into a hd6970 which would normally beat a GTX 560 ti OCed, but not a GTX 560 ti at 1ghz. You could OC the unlocked hd6950 too. Nvidia has CUDA, which helps in video editing and things like that, so you can't really go wrong! 😀

 

[eyefinity]

Why are you talking so much. Check out some GTX 560 Ti (Gigabyte SOC, ASUS TOP and MSI HAWK) reviews dude.

Here:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-gtx-560-ti-soc-review/


http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-gtx560-directcu-ii-review/1

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-560-ti-hawk-review/

read those out and then speak.

That's one website. The same one every nvidia fanboy keeps linking. I wonder why that is?

Find more then speak, otherwise shut it.

I too am an Asus GTX 560TI owner. Take my word, that thing can really match a stock GTX 570 when overclocked. I am not saying a 6950 is not good. I am just saying that the 560Ti is a bang for the buck considering the price/performance ratio.

Do you also have a 570? I guess not. So how do you know? Exactly. Shut it.

and mind you, try to respect others. especially your senior members of this forum "jjb8675309". then you may get respect from other people too.

Don't talk rubbish to me about "senior members", I've been here a lot longer than the vast majority of posters here. The only difference is I'm not part of the Nvidia clique.

 

[irfan88]

Hey.............watch your mouth.....dumb a**

First of all, I am not an nvidia fan boy. I have an AMD PC. I opted for the GTX 560Ti only because it was bang for the buck....as for the websites, Guru 3D is a reputed website. It doesn't give you fake reviews.


With regards to the GTX 570, "jjb8675309" had both the 570 and the 6870 crossfire. Now he has the GTX 560Ti as well. So as he himself tells that there is not much difference between a stock 570 and an overclocked GTX 560Ti, then why do you bother to prove us wrong.


I am not an Nvidia fan boy. Its you, you are the AMD fanboy. I only think of what's bang for the buck for the OP.

instead of giving the right suggestions, you are misleading the OP. If you do not have the complete knowledge about it, then don't speak s****



Instead of guiding people, if you wanna keep going on talking s****, then I don't mind either. I have all the time for it.

and I repeat, the 6950 is not a bad card. If the OP wants to get it, then who's stopping him. either a GTX 560Ti or the 6950 1GB is enough for 1080p. the 2GB version is only required for much higher resolutions or multiple monitors.

 

[jjb8675309]

Hey.............watch your mouth.....dumb a**

First of all, I am not an nvidia fan boy. I have an AMD PC. I opted for the GTX 560Ti only because it was bang for the buck....as for the websites, Guru 3D is a reputed website. It doesn't give you fake reviews.


With regards to the GTX 570, "jjb8675309" had both the 570 and the 6870 crossfire. Now he has the GTX 560Ti as well. So as he himself tells that there is not much difference between a stock 570 and an overclocked GTX 560Ti, then why do you bother to prove us wrong.


I am not an Nvidia fan boy. Its you, you are the AMD fanboy. I only think of what's bang for the buck for the OP.

instead of giving the right suggestions, you are misleading the OP. If you do not have the complete knowledge about it, then don't speak s****



Instead of guiding people, if you wanna keep going on talking s****, then I don't mind either. I have all the time for it.

and I repeat, the 6950 is not a bad card. If the OP wants to get it, then who's stopping him. either a GTX 560Ti or the 6950 1GB is enough for 1080p. the 2GB version is only required for much higher resolutions or multiple monitors.

Thank you +1000

 

[jjb8675309]

the examples that amdboy left were gtx 560s anyways which are generally on par with the 6870... believe me the gtx 560ti is a beast and many models can achieve a high overclock namely the asus dc2 and the msi hawk among others such as the gigabyte soc which comes at 1 ghz out of the box

 

[jjb8675309]

For future proof, the hd6950 does have 2gb RAM, and I have heard BFBC2 prefers AMD cards. Also, you can unlock into a hd6970 which would normally beat a GTX 560 ti OCed, but not a GTX 560 ti at 1ghz. You could OC the unlocked hd6950 too. Nvidia has CUDA, which helps in video editing and things like that, so you can't really go wrong! 😀

yeah either model is a decent choice for the OP just comes down to preference and price and what models are available, if its a reference model the 6950 is significantly louder especially when fans are ramped up, shoot my reference 6870s were louder even with a single card then the asus model I have of the gtx 560ti

 

[eyefinity]

Hey.............watch your mouth.....dumb a**

Don't call me dumbass you little ****. I've had to suffer attack after attack in this and other threads from you and other nvidia fanboys and I'm not taking it from the likes of you.

First of all, I am not an nvidia fan boy. I have an AMD PC. I opted for the GTX 560Ti only because it was bang for the buck....as for the websites, Guru 3D is a reputed website. It doesn't give you fake reviews.

What about the other 150 websites showing that the 6950 is superior. Using only one website as "proof" shows the limit of your intelligence and the major flaw in your argument.

If they had more evidence they'd use it. They don't. They are all just liars spinning the same review over and over every time when every other review tells the real story.

With regards to the GTX 570, "jjb8675309" had both the 570 and the 6870 crossfire. Now he has the GTX 560Ti as well. So as he himself tells that there is not much difference between a stock 570 and an overclocked GTX 560Ti, then why do you bother to prove us wrong.

As far as I'm concerned he's talking out of his ass. Nobody would buy a 560 Ti if they already had a 570 so like I said before, shut it. Use your **** brains for once in your life.

 

[eyefinity]

yeah either model is a decent choice for the OP just comes down to preference and price and what models are available, if its a reference model the 6950 is significantly louder especially when fans are ramped up, shoot my reference 6870s were louder even with a single card then the asus model I have of the gtx 560ti

You're full of it. Nobody would swap crossfire 6870's for a single gtx 560. Nobody with a brain anyway. Wait maybe you did after all. 😗

 

[jjb8675309]

@AMDface

dont feel like explaining the whole story but here it goes.

Had 6870 crossfire hated it,

sold got a pny gtx 570, it was a lemon, rma'ed, and the refurb was sold (given) to my cousin who was in need of a solid gpu. I went out and bought a asus gtx 560ti for a great price at frys electronics,- 210AR knowing that I could practically match the 570s performance with that I was more than happy with it at stock and so I bought the ti and an crucial m4 ssd, it was my choice sorry it upset you. I was interested in seeing what the ti could do with a 1ghz oc and im not dissapointed, what do you want from me? This is my hobby and I am lucky enough to have disposable income to support it so what is your gripe? I can swap my parts as many times as I want!

either model will be fitting for the op at 1080p so just let them decide, you've said your piece...