Point of core i3?

[liquidsnake718]

If you can get a great core 2 duo with at least 3.0ghz ala e8400, then whats the point when you canstill use the LGA 775 board? Is this SKU for the pentium 4 upgraders? I dont understand why one would buy an LGA1556 board and get a 2 core i3, yeah it has a few new features and more RAM can be used but so what.... Anyone still feel like this is useless?

 

[jimmysmitty]

I do not see these chips beating the AMD chips its supposed to be competing with.

They will beat them performance wise. Price wise is another story. Then again with the H55 mobos hitting it should even the price/performance out a bit.

Well obviously intel is cheating here by using the "cripple C2D" function on their compile?
how so?

Its a joke since Intels compiler "cripples" AMD chips.

 

[someguy7]

They will beat them performance wise. Price wise is another story. Then again with the H55 mobos hitting it should even the price/performance out a bit.



Its a joke since Intels compiler "cripples" AMD chips.

They are a joke at the current prices. Forget about AMD for now. The current prices on all the i5 dual cores is more then the i5 750 quad core. That is flat out ridiculous. If they gave you a FREE H55 board then it would even out the price/performance a bit. Even then I would not purchase one of those chips.

 

[someguy7]

And I do realize we where talking about the i3 but even those are overpriced. Not as bad as the i5s but still are overpriced.

 

[OvrClkr]

I think the i5 dualies are more of a rip-off than the i3's.... I can understand the pricepoint of the i3's, specially since they are 32nm and they overclock fairly well. But the 650/660/661 and 670 are plain useless at those prices. If they were low end quads then the price would be justifiable, but as dual cores I see no point...

A dual core more expensive than the 750??? Nuts IMO....Intel has got to the point that they do not want ANYONE overclocking...lol they want you to pay the ridiculous premium for a few extra Mhz....Ohh well....

 

[qurious69ss]

I looked at the Sunday ads this week and saw that Best buy, Staples, office max, etc. are all carrying several models of PC/laptops with i5/i3's in them and they are ranging in prices from $400 to $1000. The one that caught my attention was this dell inspirion laptop for $650 http://www.staples.com/StaplesProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10001&productId=315423&noredir=true&catalogIdentifier=2&cmArea=SC3:CG71😀P4118:CL161747:SS1051895 what do you guys think?

 

[OvrClkr]

:lol:

Clarkdale is going to DESTROY the X3 chips.

On air boys......

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/9711/screen018.jpg

Well you are comparing old tech vs. new tech... Wait till AMD gets their 32nm's out the door 😉 , then we can compare....

 

[OvrClkr]

I looked at the Sunday ads this week and saw that Best buy, Staples, office max, etc. are all carrying several models of PC/laptops with i5/i3's in them and they are ranging in prices from $400 to $1000. The one that caught my attention was this dell inspirion laptop for $650 http://www.staples.com/StaplesProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10001&productId=315423&noredir=true&catalogIdentifier=2&cmArea=SC3:CG71😀P4118:CL161747:SS1051895 what do you guys think?

If you play games stay away from such notebooks. Get at least something with a dedicated GPU. If not then you are fine 😉

 

[cjl]

Well you are comparing old tech vs. new tech... Wait till AMD gets their 32nm's out the door 😉 , then we can compare....

Considering AMD won't have 32nm out the door for another year, I'd say it's a perfectly fair comparison.

 

[OvrClkr]

Considering AMD won't have 32nm out the door for another year, I'd say it's a perfectly fair comparison.

Not really, why not compare 45nm CPU's neck to neck? You cannot compare a CPU that is smaller, uses less power and does not produce much heat....

Don't get me wrong here, Intel is making superb CPU's, if the pricing was right I would give you the benefit of the doubt...

289.99$ for a dual core is just outrageous... Look at it this way, that dual core is more expensive than the i7 920, not much more I can say :lol:

 

[liquidsnake718]

Not really, why not compare 45nm CPU's neck to neck? You cannot compare a CPU that is smaller, uses less power and does not produce much heat....

Don't get me wrong here, Intel is making superb CPU's, if the pricing was right I would give you the benefit of the doubt...

289.99$ for a dual core is just outrageous... Look at it this way, that dual core is more expensive than the i7 920, not much more I can say :lol:

I will second on that, I would never buy a 1156 chip that cost more than a 1336chip, esp not the i7920. What more an H55, its as if anyone will use the onboard gpu on that chip for gaming anyway...

 

[cjl]

Not really, why not compare 45nm CPU's neck to neck? You cannot compare a CPU that is smaller, uses less power and does not produce much heat....

Don't get me wrong here, Intel is making superb CPU's, if the pricing was right I would give you the benefit of the doubt...

289.99$ for a dual core is just outrageous... Look at it this way, that dual core is more expensive than the i7 920, not much more I can say :lol:

$289 is outrageous.

Compare based on pricing though, not based on technology. If I started making a new CPU on my 12mm process, with 82 transistors and speed comparable to an ancient calculator, and I sold it for $1000, you'd compare it to an i7-975. You wouldn't say "Oh, that's unfair - the i7 is made on a much more up to date process", you'd say "look, for the same price you can get this other, way better CPU". In my opinion, CPUs should always be compared based on price, power, performance, and features. The method used to get these factors is irrelevant (45 vs 32nm isn't one of these, it is a method to obtain these).

 

[notty22]

I will second on that, I would never buy a 1156 chip that cost more than a 1336chip, esp not the i7920. What more an H55, its as if anyone will use the onboard gpu on that chip for gaming anyway...

Theres a whole lineup of 1156 xeon's and they may get the 32nm quads first that everyone wants. The 32nm quad by either cpu maker is going to be the next big enthusiast cpu.

 

[AMW1011]

It is true that i3 is a far better solution than an LGA 775 dualcore, but it loses horribly when compared to AMD's current solutions in the same price range. All in all it is a business OEM chip that the system builder should basically ignore at this point.

 

[OvrClkr]

$289 is outrageous.

Compare based on pricing though, not based on technology. If I started making a new CPU on my 12mm process, with 82 transistors and speed comparable to an ancient calculator, and I sold it for $1000, you'd compare it to an i7-975. You wouldn't say "Oh, that's unfair - the i7 is made on a much more up to date process", you'd say "look, for the same price you can get this other, way better CPU". In my opinion, CPUs should always be compared based on price, power, performance, and features. The method used to get these factors is irrelevant (45 vs 32nm isn't one of these, it is a method to obtain these).

Correct but you cannot justify a pricetag of 290.00$ just cause the CPU is factory clocked at 3.4Ghz, this CPU is clearly made for the un-educated and lazy or for a user that can care less. Look, like I said these CPU's are not bad chips, they are just overpriced even as 32nm. Its not like you will see a HUGE difference on your monthly electric bill, or shave off 20c in LOAD temps vs a 45nm. I have seen these dualies in action and im not impressed. The only thing that did catch my attention was the overclocking threshold, everything else is mediocre IMO....

Anyone have any benchmarks of these chips vs. anything AMD has to offer?

 

[liquidsnake718]

Any benches coming up to compare c2d, i3, i5, c2q, i7 ?

 

[liquidsnake718]

With the new article is it truly better to get it over a core 2 quad?

 

[OvrClkr]

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