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On 05 Apr 2005 16:56:50 GMT, Alexander Ulyanov
<posband@earthsea.org.invalid> wrote:

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>>
>> Are the quest rewards biased towards race/class? (Too lazy to look
>> into the source code.)
>
>No, they aren't. Until recently they were biased by several bugs,
>though.
>

Are those fixes in 0.3.0-alpha2 or in your current work towards the
next release/version? Any predictions on the date for the next one?

A great variant - keep up the good work.

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Alexander Ulyanov wrote:
> On 2005-03-31, Polarhound wrote:
>
>>It is times like this that I wish STM was an activation. Alex, maybe
>>you can use this as a King's reward? Either that, or maybe bump up the
>>spider's digging ability through lesser types of rock?
>
>
> It doesn't really fit as King's reward activation. I have added
> the Rod of Stone to Mud, though. Depth 20, rarity 3, recharges in
> about 7 turns.
>

This works for me

 

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Alexander Ulyanov <posband@earthsea.org.invalid>:
> On 2005-04-01, Ralf Arens wrote:

[...]
>> I didn't make it to stat gain. Died yesterday at 950ft when I was
>> knocked out by Ice Ogres (never encountered them before).

> They were introduced in NPP long ago (v0.1.x I think).

Serves me right for almost playing only ToME in the last three years.
;-)

> At this depth ogres are approximately as dangerous as trolls,

Seemingly, yes. When I realised it, it was too late. I used all my
Scrolls of Phase Door but was a bit unlucky where I was teleported.

> although potion-shattering cold attack is a big nuisance.

Oh yes! At the moment I'm playing an HE rogue (clvl 35, 2000ft) in
NPP, half of my PoCCW are shattered not drunken. :-(

BTW, was this changed in Vanilla/NPP/Pos? I don't have memories that cold
attacks were such a nuisance years ago.

>> But as I understood it the problem, it is not about reaching statgain
>> but about reaching clvl 15, when DEs can specialize (Warrior, Mage, or
>> Priest).

> Yes. After all, I didn't plan to mark them "Hard".

> OTOH I don't want to change them much either... I thought about
> giving them a stack of poisoned darts on the birth. What do you
> think?

Darts? Or do you mean arrows? Yes, I think that could work but I can't
really estimate how fast they'll disappear when used. I would
test it, if you send a patch.

>>> Both credit an ego bow -- and both credit an ego
>>> longbow of the *same type* in fact. Coincidence?

>> Are the quest rewards biased towards race/class? (Too lazy to look
>> into the source code.)

> No, they aren't. Until recently they were biased by several bugs,
> though.

🙂

>>> Or can it only be done with a Long Bow of Power?

>> Please compare the bows we're speaking of, mine was (+7,+9), which
>> isn't much for a Bow of Power -- I was really disappointed when I got
>> it. The other one in question was (+6,+22) which is IMHO a huge
>> difference.

> (+7,+9) long bow is still a great weapon for low levels -- usually
> enough to guarantee survival.

Agreed. But probably (+4,+4) would have been sufficient.


Ralf

 

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Timo writes:

>No, but NPP has a lot more monsters that hit to freeze than vanilla.

In NPP, I usually cast a resistance spell if I'm going to be fighting
freezers/burners, not just to protect myself but to protect equipment.
It's Ice Ogres and the like that seem to break the most stuff, since
they get in so many hits against you in an ordinary battle.

In vanilla, there is a1% chance of potion breakage for weak attacks and
3% chance for powerful attacks, with rods having only 1/4 the base
chance of breakage.

In NPP, it's a .8% chance for weak attacks, and a 2.4% chance for
strong attacks. If you have double-resist, the breakage chance is 40%
lower, 3/5 the basic breakage chance. For rods, the breakage chance is
3/5 the base chance, much higher than vanilla. Double ELEC resist
brings rod breakage chance down by 9/25, comparable to vanilla
breakage chance.

So Timo is right: if there are more broken potions in NPP, it's because
there are more cold-damage monsters. But he misses that NPP equipment
is a little tougher than vanilla equipment.

Short story: In NPP, always use protection spell if you want to
protect your potions. Resist Cold or Resist Heat&Cold is a cheap,
cheap spell.

 

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Ralf Arens wrote:
> Alexander Ulyanov <posband@earthsea.org.invalid>:

>>although potion-shattering cold attack is a big nuisance.
>
> Oh yes! At the moment I'm playing an HE rogue (clvl 35, 2000ft) in
> NPP, half of my PoCCW are shattered not drunken. :-(
>
> BTW, was this changed in Vanilla/NPP/Pos? I don't have memories that cold
> attacks were such a nuisance years ago.

No, but NPP has a lot more monsters that hit to freeze than vanilla.

Timo Pietilä

 

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pete mack wrote:
> Short story: In NPP, always use protection spell if you want to
> protect your potions. Resist Cold or Resist Heat&Cold is a cheap,
> cheap spell.

IF you have the right damn book before all the damn ice ogres start
turning up - hasn't happened to me yet. White O's are up near the top
of my most irritating monsters list; maybe even above water hounds

Nick.

 

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On 2005-04-06, Ralf Arens wrote:
> Alexander Ulyanov <posband@earthsea.org.invalid>:
>
>> OTOH I don't want to change them much either... I thought about
>> giving them a stack of poisoned darts on the birth. What do you
>> think?
>
> Darts? Or do you mean arrows?

No, darts that you throw.

> Yes, I think that could work but I can't
> really estimate how fast they'll disappear when used.

With standard 1% (I think) breakage chance 20-30 should be enough
for some time.

I'm currently experimenting with some new "exotic" item types.
For example, Swords of Balrog (Balrog race starts with one) --
much rarer than even Blades of Chaos, but with 7d5 base damage, and
grant immunity to fire. That's a base type, so Sword of Balrog of
Fury or of Gondolin could be devastating, but it is even harder
to find than Ringil. Poisoned Darts could be another interesting
but rare base item.

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On 2005-04-05, Cam Moore wrote:
> On 05 Apr 2005 16:56:50 GMT, Alexander Ulyanov
><posband@earthsea.org.invalid> wrote:
>>> Are the quest rewards biased towards race/class? (Too lazy to look
>>> into the source code.)
>>
>>No, they aren't. Until recently they were biased by several bugs,
>>though.
>
> Are those fixes in 0.3.0-alpha2 or in your current work towards the
> next release/version?

In the current release.

> Any predictions on the date for the next one?

In a week or two. (This means in June, if I get lucky 🙂

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Ralf Arens wrote:
>>I'm currently experimenting with some new "exotic" item types.
>>For example, Swords of Balrog (Balrog race starts with one) --
>>much rarer than even Blades of Chaos, but with 7d5 base damage, and
>>grant immunity to fire. That's a base type, so Sword of Balrog of
>>Fury or of Gondolin could be devastating,
>
> *drool*

ITYM *twink* here. 😉

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On 2005-04-08 11:11:18, Alexander Ulyanov <posband@earthsea.org.invalid> wrote:

> On 2005-04-06, Ralf Arens wrote:
> > Alexander Ulyanov :
> >
> >> OTOH I don't want to change them much either... I thought about
> >> giving them a stack of poisoned darts on the birth. What do you
> >> think?
> >
> > Darts? Or do you mean arrows?
>
> No, darts that you throw.
>
> > Yes, I think that could work but I can't
> > really estimate how fast they'll disappear when used.
>
> With standard 1% (I think) breakage chance 20-30 should be enough
> for some time.
>
> I'm currently experimenting with some new "exotic" item types.
> For example, Swords of Balrog (Balrog race starts with one) --
> much rarer than even Blades of Chaos, but with 7d5 base damage, and
> grant immunity to fire. That's a base type, so Sword of Balrog of
> Fury or of Gondolin could be devastating, but it is even harder
> to find than Ringil. Poisoned Darts could be another interesting
> but rare base item.
>
> --
> Alexander Ulyanov, maintainer of PosBand roguelike
> E-mail: posband_AT_earthsea_DOT_org Web: http://posband.earthsea.org/
> "Just an arbitrary set of rules like ... what's that thing you British play?"
> - "Cricket? Self-loathing?" - "Parliamentary democracy." -- Mostly Harmless
>

Balrog race? They arent on the monster listing...not that I am not happy that
you are putting one in 😀

So we should expect the new version out next week?

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On 2005-04-08, Severoth wrote:
> On 2005-04-08 11:11:18, Alexander Ulyanov <posband@earthsea.org.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I'm currently experimenting with some new "exotic" item types.
>> For example, Swords of Balrog (Balrog race starts with one) --
>> much rarer than even Blades of Chaos, but with 7d5 base damage, and
>> grant immunity to fire. That's a base type, so Sword of Balrog of
>> Fury or of Gondolin could be devastating, but it is even harder
>> to find than Ringil. Poisoned Darts could be another interesting
>> but rare base item.
>
> Balrog race? They arent on the monster listing...not that I am not happy that
> you are putting one in 😀
>
> So we should expect the new version out next week?

Well, next month is more like it . I don't want to make predictions
anymore. Even Microsoft is usually wrong at theirs.

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"Just an arbitrary set of rules like ... what's that thing you British play?"
- "Cricket? Self-loathing?" - "Parliamentary democracy." -- Mostly Harmless