Question Prebuilt gaming PC suggestion?

[darryl305]

Hello, so it has been a long overdue but I need to upgrade to a new gaming PC. Now,for almost all my gaming life, I have always built my own PC from the ground up, however, due to many circumstances, I simply am not able/wiling to build my own this time around. SO, I have been looking for a proper pre built gaming PC, that will be ready to go. A few details:

I intend to use this PC for some higher end gaming as well as streaming, and possibly some video editing, as well as maybe some tinkering around with Unreal Engine 5 (just wanting to start to learn and begin using this ) Gaming will consist of modern gaming, like the new COD,Elden Ring, Rust etc. and I want my PC to be able to handle any new PC games coming out in the next few years. I also would like to finally upgrade my monitor, to a 4k resolution,

I do not have much preference as far as the CPU goes, but I know I will most likely want/need a core i7 or the Ryen 7 series. As far as the video card, I am looking to get Nvidea, and at min a 3070, but willing to spend a couple hundred extra for 1 3080 if its possible, and not much morre than the 3070.
I am looking for any suggestions, as far as what you guys think about the prebuilts I listed here, along with the monitor, and if anyo9ne has any other suggestions that might be better bangg for my buck. so, my budget for the prebuilt gaming system would be between $1500-$2000 USD and my budget for a good 4k gaming monitor would be $400-600 USD and I want a 27' inch monitor. nothing smaller, and prefer not anything much bigger.

Here are the pre builts I am looking at, along with the monitor I am also considering:

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Generat...in:2289792011&rnid=676578011&s=pc&sr=1-3&th=1

https://www.newegg.com/acer-predator-orion-5000/p/3D5-000H-004U4

https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-x24-yari/p/N82E16883630015?Item=9SIAZRBHD07427

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predato...aWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-inches-...aming+monitor+27+inch,electronics,121&sr=1-28

THank you for any suggestions.

 

[Lafong]

Does this PC have to be marketed as a "gaming" PC?

Would you consider installing a separately purchased video card, as opposed to building an entire PC?

I'd be quite nervous about the internal components of a glitzy "gaming" PC and equally nervous about buying from 3rd party sellers on Amazon.

 

[darryl305]

ya, I mean, I understand that, but part of the reason I dont want to build my own, is I am also nervous about if a certain componet doesnt work, and nervous in general as it has been many years since my last build, and my hand and eye coordination as well as my vision is no what it used to be.

I dont want to buy parts sepereate, then if one thing jdont work, trying to narrow it down..wheter its the CPU, the motherboard..the RAM, power supply, etc.
I really just want to be able to open up the box from delivery, plug the tower in, turn it on, and have it working out the box. And if it did not work for some reason, I could just return the whole thing.

ANother option I thought about was buying the PC from Best Buy, yes they are more expensive, but if anything goes wrong, there is a best buy right down the street from me, and I could walk in and return it.

But as to your other question, I guess it dont HAVE to be marketed asa a gaming PC. I could buy another option, and then just put in the vid card myself. But I wanted to make sure the CPU,.RAM, motherboard, power supply, etc were all higher end, and would be good gaming componets.

 

[Lafong]

I can certainly understand failing eyesight, coordination, and a general unwillingness to build from scratch.

I'd be nervous about cooling as well...particularly on a pre-built "gaming" PC that used a liquid cooler.

You say "I could buy another option, and then just put in the vid card myself. But I wanted to make sure the CPU,.RAM, motherboard, power supply, etc were all higher end, and would be good gaming componets."

If you can do that.....

Possibilities

1; buy a standard mid level PC from an established builder....Dell for instance. Not a "gaming" PC necessarily. Then buy your own video card. Put it in yourself or pay a shop 50 bucks to put it in for you.

Power supplies are a major concern in pre-builts. You might be able to get a pre built Dell with say a 400 or 500 watt PSU and I'd be more likely to trust that than a "no-name" PSU from a brand you never heard of on a random Amazon pre-built.

or:

2; Find a local builder. Buy your own parts. Take the parts to him and pay him 150 or 200 to build it. You probably would not get any warranty from the builder and would have to rely on parts manufacturers for that.

3; your Best Buy idea is another possibility. I don't now what brands they carry, but you might be limited to the same stuff you find on Amazon.....Acer, Cyberpower, etc. So it may not be an advantage other than that they are down the street rather than online.

4; there are boutique builders that offer gaming PCs, but they may well be out of your budget. You'd get a pretty high level set of compatible parts and would have some degree of choice regarding CPUs, video cards, drives.

I'd go with choice 2 above if at all possible.

 

[jaetee]

Try iBuyPower. I just bought one of these for my kid. Its a 2-year old build from someone who upgraded... My initial impressions are favorable. The machines are well put together with compatible parts and the company seems to have a good reputation.

 

[darryl305]

I can certainly understand failing eyesight, coordination, and a general unwillingness to build from scratch.

I'd be nervous about cooling as well...particularly on a pre-built "gaming" PC that used a liquid cooler.

You say "I could buy another option, and then just put in the vid card myself. But I wanted to make sure the CPU,.RAM, motherboard, power supply, etc were all higher end, and would be good gaming componets."

If you can do that.....

Possibilities

1; buy a standard mid level PC from an established builder....Dell for instance. Not a "gaming" PC necessarily. Then buy your own video card. Put it in yourself or pay a shop 50 bucks to put it in for you.

Power supplies are a major concern in pre-builts. You might be able to get a pre built Dell with say a 400 or 500 watt PSU and I'd be more likely to trust that than a "no-name" PSU from a brand you never heard of on a random Amazon pre-built.

or:

2; Find a local builder. Buy your own parts. Take the parts to him and pay him 150 or 200 to build it. You probably would not get any warranty from the builder and would have to rely on parts manufacturers for that.

3; your Best Buy idea is another possibility. I don't now what brands they carry, but you might be limited to the same stuff you find on Amazon.....Acer, Cyberpower, etc. So it may not be an advantage other than that they are down the street rather than online.

4; there are boutique builders that offer gaming PCs, but they may well be out of your budget. You'd get a pretty high level set of compatible parts and would have some degree of choice regarding CPUs, video cards, drives.

I'd go with choice 2 above if at all possible.

Well, I do know there is that website " Meta_PC" that a lot of youtubers are always advertising. They seem to have pretty higher end parts, and they let you pick some of the brands and specs of what you want. However they are VERY pricey.

 

[bignastyid]

Try iBuyPower. I just bought one of these for my kid. Its a 2-year old build from someone who upgraded... My initial impressions are favorable. The machines are well put together with compatible parts and the company seems to have a good reputation.

Actually ibuypower and cyberpower(same company) have a very poor reputation that is well earned for QC and build quality issues.

 

[jaetee]

Actually ibuypower and cyberpower(same company) have a very poor reputation that is well earned for QC and build quality issues.

Okay, I guess I stand corrected. I had a feeling that Cyberpower and them might have been the same company as the websites have much the same look. My initial research was actually quite favorable. My kid's PC is doing great, especially after adding an RTX 2080. Waiting for some updated RAM for that machine as well.

 

[Why_Me]

@darryl305 another option is to call around to local mom & pop PC/laptop repair shops and find out how much they would charge to build it for you if you brought them down the components. This way you know exactly what you're getting as in quality hardware. I live in Alaska and I can think of two offhand that are within a 30 min. drive from me. With that said here's a few suggestions. The RTX 4070 12GB is due for release this April. Expect that cards MSRP to be anywhere from $600 - $700. I'm leaning towards $650. That card will most likely beat cards such as the 3080 10GB like a rented mule and do it for cheaper while consuming less power.

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