We all know that Canterwood will support Prescott when its released. But will the new Prescott chips that come out next year with socket 775 will they work on Canterwood Mobos with 478? Or do we all have to buy the new Grantsdale Mobos?
That's exactly the point though. It was never about the performance difference. It was about the features that you get with each. Most i865s are pretty stripped down. Hardly any of then even support Gigabit CSA ethernet.Yeah, really, the performance difference between C-wood and Springdale is so small that ECC support and with some boards Gbit lan are the only reasons to buy Canterwood, as I see it.
That sounds sweet. Expensive, but sweet.This board supports SATA and even RAID 0 for SATA, which is the only feature I needed, because I bought the WD Raptor disk the last week 😉
That's actually pretty good logic. If the 10K RPM hard drives came in sizes that were closer to their 7200 RPM counterparts, I'd consider it myself. But being on a budget I just can't sacrifice that much hard drive space for just a small increase in speed. (Which is also why my next PC will probably be a P4C 2.4 or 2.6, at least to start.) I'd definately love to have some Raptor drives if I could afford them though.Definitely more expensive, about $100 more, but that's what you pay to get about the same perf out of a CPU, so to me that sounded reasonable 😉 (Not the same kind of performance of course)
You're right. I think RAID 5 with 3 drives should have <i>slightly</i> more performance than RAID 0, but then what with the PCI bus bottlenecking it all, it gets to the point where it doesn't really matter. Heh heh. Personally I would prefer to do the RAID 5 over the RAID 0 just for the data recovery ability. I've lost too many important things just to single hard drive crashes, so making two hard drive's data dependant on either crashing just scares me.Agreed, though RAID 5 requires 3 hard disks and RAID 0 only needs 2. Am I right? You get the same performance with RAID 0 as you do with RAID 5, don't you? And the difference being that you don't lose the data of the other drive(s).
I don't see that in such a negative way, 'cause you might just get lots of advantages in grantsdale to warrant a full-blown upgrade... some grantsdale boards might support DDR-II. That's a big difference. And also, some specs show grantsdale as possibly supporting DDR-II 533 by 2004, which is highly suggestive of a possible move to <i>1066Mhz FSB</i>. If AMD competes with Intel like its fanboys want it to, then we might just see Grantsdale platforms with dual-channel DDR-II 533Mhz and 1066Mhz FSB and 4Ghz Prescotts by 2004 or something.So if you want Prescott with fastest Ghz you have to buy Grantsdale.
I just ordered that second Raptor drive. Just got a new temporary job, and thought to spend some of those money on computer upgrades, came to think of another Raptor just two weeks after I bought that first one. Ouch, I hope I'm not sounding like one of those boastful creeps here. 😛That's actually pretty good logic. If the 10K RPM hard drives came in sizes that were closer to their 7200 RPM counterparts, I'd consider it myself. But being on a budget I just can't sacrifice that much hard drive space for just a small increase in speed. (Which is also why my next PC will probably be a P4C 2.4 or 2.6, at least to start.) I'd definately love to have some Raptor drives if I could afford them though.
Of course. RAID 5 is the very best alternative, hands down. If the quality RAID controllers went down in price, not expensive, but not cheap, and if I could get a THIRD Raptor drive (shrugs at the thought 😛) then I'd undoubtely think it'd be a good idea. 😉 Is RAID 5 much faster than RAID 0? You tell me, because I really don't have a clue.You're right. I think RAID 5 with 3 drives should have slightly more performance than RAID 0, but then what with the PCI bus bottlenecking it all, it gets to the point where it doesn't really matter. Heh heh. Personally I would prefer to do the RAID 5 over the RAID 0 just for the data recovery ability. I've lost too many important things just to single hard drive crashes, so making two hard drive's data dependant on either crashing just scares me.
Of course a SCSI RAID 5 using five 15K hard drives on motherboard running a 64-bit PCI-X bus would totally slaughter.One day I hope to have a setup like that. ... Or better.
It'll probably be another two years though. 🙁
And yeah, a good CD burner (or better, a good DVD burner) would really be good enough to backup the few important files. RAID 0 wouldn't be so scary then. I just know that I'm a lazy person though who will probably never back up my important data like I'm supposed to. Heh heh heh.
Actually though, one of the plans I had was just to have a 7200 RPM drive there and every so often just copy the data from a 10K RAID 0 setup to that 'slow' drive. It'd go a lot faster than burning a CD and could even be automated to run in the backround at midnight or something.And since the hard drive wouldn't be used for anything other than the backup, it wouldn't be under heavy use and thus should last a long time before ever failing. That was my cheap alternative concept anyway.
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Nah. If I wasn't married I'd be spending a lot more money on my computer.I just ordered that second Raptor drive. Just got a new temporary job, and thought to spend some of those money on computer upgrades, came to think of another Raptor just two weeks after I bought that first one. Ouch, I hope I'm not sounding like one of those boastful creeps here. 😛
Yeah. I'm leaning towards the 2.6C. It's kind of like the 19" monitor that I want to get. It's not the 21" that I'd prefer, but it's better than a 17".The P4 2.4C and 2.6C are both excellent choices. Hope you can afford one soon. After the 2.8C, you start to lose the price/performance ratio anyway.
You know, for three drives I'm not entirely sure. Generally I see four or five or so in a RAID5. When most people are spending that much, they don't just get three drives. Heh heh. I'm pretty sure that three in a RAID5 would be faster than two in a RAID0 though, but I doubt that it'd be by much. I'll have to ask my network admin friend. He'd know.Of course. RAID 5 is the very best alternative, hands down. If the quality RAID controllers went down in price, not expensive, but not cheap, and if I could get a THIRD Raptor drive (shrugs at the thought 😛) then I'd undoubtely think it'd be a good idea. 😉 Is RAID 5 much faster than RAID 0? You tell me, because I really don't have a clue.
Yeah. No kidding. It'd be a lifetime before I could save up <i>that</i> much at the rate that I'm going at. 🙁 It'd sure be sweet though.ugh. 5 drives on 15K RPM. Wow... 😛
It'd definitely take some time before I could afford that. 😉
Damn straight. Two Raptors in a RAID0 is just nasty. And backing up your data is something to always be proud of. (Well, at least if you have data worth backing up it is. Heh heh.)But, even 72 gigs comprised of two Raptors, and my Lite-on Cdrw OFTEN used for data safety is nothing I am nothing but very proud over, and I should be.
Eh. Life is all about choices. You spend money on your computer. Someone else spends money on pimping out their car. I spend money on my wife. It's all good. I always love hearing about cool setups. You have to have something to dream about.I just hope it ain't too bothersome to other people that I, and some others have these powerful rigs. But I guess I just don't have a life sometimes 😛
I know. Good grief I know. It's a lesson that I've had to learn repeatedly. Yet I still forget. That's why I like RAID setups with recoverability. It's like the good backup practice fairy for people who keep forgetting.Ack. Backing up data is important you know 😛
It's a handy trick.That idea to use a simpler harddrive as backup is another good alternative, to use it for storing all those big files we all have 😉 And if you have the most important and often used files, games or programs on the faster hard drive, you will have both a system that could speed up the loading times when you need them, and also one that could store tons of big files, patch files and the like.