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Ok before I start, heres my specs
Viotek Black ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case W/ 120MM & 80MM RED LED, USB 3.0
ASUS Z97-A ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 Motherboards Z97-A
Intel 4670K 3.4 GHz Quad-Core (BX80646I54670K) Processor
Cooler Master Hyper TX3 - CPU Cooler with 3 Direct Contact Heatpipes
EVGA 02G-P4-2763-RX GeForce GTX 760 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Suppor
1 x ADATA XPG V1.0 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600W8G9-RB
850W Gaming 120MM Fan Silent ATX Power Supply SATA 12V
Seagate Barracuda 1 TB HDD SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Driv ST1000DM003

Anyway just a heads up, I am new at this so bear with me and this is my first from ground up build.
I've been in the bios tring to figure this out for 2 days now. To start first I went for the EZ method in the EZ tuner. I go ahead and go through the EZ tune, then when it reboots my monitor says no frequency after reboot.
I've also tried some manual tuning like bumping up the core multiplier up to 40 and same result after reboot. The only way to fix it so my monitor picks up frequency again is by removing cmos battery from mobo and resetting it and I've had to do that numerous times and that cant be good in its self....
Anybodies help/ assistance would be MUCH appreciated.........
 
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Think I have a faulty MOBO or something. I woke up this morning getting the same beep code (1 long 3 short), and was thinking it was chipset or need to update bios. So I updated bios and still getting same beep code. When I do finally get it to boot, it gets to windows with a black screen now. I'm to the point, where I'm lost. Don't know what to do next, but maybe contact Asus for a RMA idk
 
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I get it running again after resetting CMOS. But as soon as I try to OC at all now I get the same beep code with no monitor signal. Code is still the same 1 long 3 short, which refers too Video adapter failure. Bad video adapter or memory. But when I run benchmarks on GPU it runs fine. I done updated my bios and chipsets and still no positive results
 
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1. Check the Asus forums to see if you can find users w/ similar problems.

2. Armed with that info, I would then call Asus Tech Support .... they will take you thru some basic troubleshooting procedures.

3. At that point I have been running in to a wall in the last 2 years or so. I am afraid the tack taken nowadays is "we have never heard of the problem" ..... at which point you can point out if you've found other users w/ the same problem..... and they will offer you an RMA.
 
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I got it OC to 4.2ghz. The only difference is that all I did was change the multiplier and didn't change my RAM frequency to 1666mhz, which my RAM is 1666mhz stock. My BIO see's my RAM at 1333 for some reason at default, I don't know why?? I did a stress test everything was going great for like 6-7 hrs, but my screen ended up freezing. Temps topped out in the 70s at peek stresses, Was a steady 4.1mhz till till peeks, then it topped at 4.2mhz. It was a hood test till my screen froze . The fact that OC wouldn't work till I held back on RAM frequency makes me thing that my RAM might me faulty?
 
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I tried to reseat and even moved my GPU to another slot and same with RAM. I don't have another GPU to work with but I do have a couple stick of G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) PC8500 1066 mhz DDR3 Desktop DUAL KIT, but my MOBO compatibilities refer to 1333mhz minimum. So I don't know if it will work
 
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Coupla things ....

1. To get much past where you are you are going to need to change your VCCIn (Asus calls it Eventual CPU voltage) to 1.9 volts.

2. Should really use RAM in matched pairs. .... you build list says 1600 .... but here you say 1666. Check w/ CPU-z (memory tab) to see what your standard JDEC and XMP profiles are. If it says 1600 is XMP, then use the XMP setting in BIOS ... make sure it is using the correct voltage for XMP also.

Here's some recent test data using an Asus Board at the lower RAM settings

42/A/A/Auto (42 CPU Multiplier / Auto Max Cache Ratio) / Auto Min Cache Ratio) / Auto RAM voltage
VCore 1.2000
VCC Ring Auto
VCCIN (Ev) 1.900
DRAM Auto (My RAM was 2400 so you should use XMP here)

42/42/A/Auto
VCore 1.200
VCC Ring 1.200
VCCIN (Ev) 1.900
DRAM Auto

The same settings worked for me at 43/43

44/44 required a boost
VCore 1.250
VCC Ring 1.250
VCCIN (Ev) 1.900
DRAM Auto

As did 45/45
VCore 1.287
VCC Ring 1.287
VCCIN (Ev) 1.900
DRAM 1.700

The idea was to find stable settings, then I went back and toned down VCCIn and found all settings also worked at 1.88

3. RAM should be installed in the Modules indicated in the manual. First one goes in A-2, 2nd in B-2 .... that's the 2nd and 4th from the CPU.

4. Memtest will confirm if this is the problem. I usually test first with both stocks in place, this is more time efficient most of the time since if it passes (which it does 95% of the time), you're done. If it doesn't, you can test each one individually in the A2 slot:

if one fails and one doesn't, you know what the problem is
if both fail, then try testing in the B2 slot, if they both pass, then you know the slot was bad.

But ..... since you only have the one stick in your build ..... you'll have half the job to do....I'd usually start the test before bed and check in morning.

As for the 2 spare sticks, I have no experience running 1066 on Z87/Z97 so have nothing to offer.

5. If your RAM's XMP setting is 1600, then the system will default to 1333 as that would be the highest JEDEC profile, to enable XMP, you have to select the XMP profile in BIOS

Set "AI Overclock Tuner" to = XMP

Do any of your settings vary from this ?

AI Overclock Tuner = XMP
1-Core Ratio Limit = 42 (all others should automatically change with Sync all cores selected above)
Max. CPU Cache Ratio = Auto
Min. CPU Cache Ratio = Auto
Fully Manual Mode = Disabled
Core Voltage = Adaptive
Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage = 1.200
Core Cache Voltage = Adaptive
Additional Turbo Mode CPU Cache Voltage = Auto
Eventual CPU Input Voltage = 1.90
DRAM Voltage = Auto


 
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Ok everything I've read so far tells me to stay away from adaptive, especially when stressing. Reason is, is that the mobo will overvoltage the cpu during the test. Anyway I just tried to clock again just at 40, without touching my RAM settings and seemed to work except during stress my display adaptor stopped working and recovered its self and when screen saver attempted to come on, it went to white screen. When I clicked on it, it said program failed to respond. So what I got a bad GPU? And when I came back to pc again today I got same beep codes= 1 long 3 short
 
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Adaptive is not recommended for unattended stress testing with certain synthetic benchmarks which present conditions to your CPU that they will never see in every day usage. The use of said programs is in fact NOT recommended for Haswell / Devils Canyon and even Ivy bridge. As indicated above, ACX instructions add 0.10 to 0.13 volts when AVX instructions are present. In normal AVX equipped applications (i.e. Open CL) , these result in intermittent voltage spikes which do no harm to the CPU because of the short duration. However, programs like P95 will hammer the CPU with a constant barrage of AVX which no application in existence actually does. A spike from 1.375 to 1.505 is "no bigga deal" for a microsecond .... it is a heat issue when that hit is maintained continuously for a period of time.

What is your goal ?

1. You want the highest OC you can possible get so you can post your P95 stable OC on web based leader boards.... here you should not use Adaptive.

2. You want your CPU to run as efficiently as possible, downlocking to 800 Mhz when the extra "oomph" isn't needed (this can be side stepped with other BIOS settings) and extending the CPUs life as long as possible.

JJ gives a good explanation of this in the manual overclocking videos for asus boards on youtube.

P95 was a good tool when we had nothing else ..... but applications based stress testing is far more applicable to today's CPUs.

 
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Ok I didn't like prime95 much myself. I prefer to have a graph displayed, where I can sit across the room and still see whats going on and not have to rely on reading text. Also I went into bios and noticed that my graphics was set on auto instead of pcie. Not sure if that makes a difference, but I'm trying shoot at any option other than having a faulty GPU. Can't afford to fork out more $$ for another GPU right now
 
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Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage
Eventual CPU Input Voltage
Additional Turbo Mode CPU Cache Voltage
 
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Think about it ....

On mine the voltage will "eventually" get to 1.9, yours will get there a few seconds earlier :)

I seem to recall that the double option was provided on the higher end boards whereby at extreme overclocks the system wouldn't boot.... power saving functions and downclocking only work in windows so BIOS sees same voltages at bootup as it does when under load.
 
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