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SteveBeast said:
ok thanks for the tip, temperatures seem to be better now, altough i got a quick game freeze, altough i dont know if its connected to that. I just get those weird cpu temp fluctuations all the time, dont know why.

So i set the power limit to 288 now instead of the 4000 something.

But are you sure it cant hurt the watercooling or cpu, because no the components get much less power or watt? Will they still run fine? And because I have a rtx 4070 which draws a lot of power, will it not get enough power then?
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cpu power and gpu power are unrelated all that is doing is telling the board to chill out and stop throwing watts at the cpu.

you can go as low a 260w
 
thestryker said:
It's only going to impact CPU power, and the stock power limit for the 14700K is 253W so you're still above that.
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Ok so it can't damage it it just can slow down games and stuff because there's less processing power?

But what about my 4070 it also draws a lot of power wouldn't I need at least over 500w? Or is this option in the bios only for my cpu?

@beyondlogic ah ok that means it's only for the cpu and not the gpu or other stuff? Simply for the cpu
 
SteveBeast said:
@beyondlogic ah ok that means it's only for the cpu and not the gpu or other stuff? Simply for the cpu
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yep its only for the cpu it isnt going to stop the gpu from pushing whatever the gpu wants its mainly the board saying cpu you can only draw a max of 285-300w watts no more no less (some cpus will draw a bit more as not all cpus are equal). the cpu will clock back down if it hits a thermal wall or power wall. so basicly if your hitting 100c its going to clock back down. if you want consistent clocks lower temp is better.
so setting a limit to 290 should be fine if you get hitching or anything weird report back shouldnt though as a all core work load should be around 285w.
 
ok thanks for the help guys. i set it to tower air cooler which is 285 watt in the bios.
but i think not that much has changed tough.
Maybe I just have a faulty CPU or I should get rid of that Thermal Bracket again? Maybe the Thermal Bracket isnt such a good choice after all?
The only change I noticed with the Thermal Bracket was when I started Intel Diagnostics tool it was 95 in the first second i started it (without the thermal bracket), now it changed to 87 (with the thermal bracket). So its a bit of a difference.
But since Im using this Bracket I have those weird CPU Temp Fluctuations of 40-76 when playing Starfield for example, which I didnt have when I didnt use it. So im very torn right now
 
SteveBeast said:
ok thanks for the help guys. i set it to tower air cooler which is 285 watt in the bios.
but i think not that much has changed tough.
Maybe I just have a faulty CPU or I should get rid of that Thermal Bracket again? Maybe the Thermal Bracket isnt such a good choice after all?
The only change I noticed with the Thermal Bracket was when I started Intel Diagnostics tool it was 95 in the first second i started it (without the thermal bracket), now it changed to 87 (with the thermal bracket). So its a bit of a difference.
But since Im using this Bracket I have those weird CPU Temp Fluctuations of 40-76 when playing Starfield for example, which I didnt have when I didnt use it. So im very torn right now
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just curious what type of method are you using to spread the paste are you cleaning of all the old thermal paste and what thermal paste are you using.

the bracket is doing its job its fine if its only at 87 that is way better.
the fluctuation could be due to thermal headroom the processor can clock higher if it finds it can it may have not been able to before. you should only be really concerned if its going into the 80s and 90s and its a massive climb up if it continues to climb it usually means a bad contact with the ihs is happening somewhere you can try unloosening the cooler a bit and do the tightening in a x pattern bit by bit do not tighten one end fully then go to the other you want to tighten each corner a little at the time. also incase you have contaminated thermal paste.

i recommend isopropyl alcohol and a cotton swab. to clean of the paste ( make sure pc unplugged from wall.)

i recomend thermal grizzly

Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut​

needs to be spread evenly.
 
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beyondlogic said:
just curious what type of method are you using to spread the paste are you cleaning of all the old thermal paste and what thermal paste are you using.

the bracket is doing its job its fine if its only at 87 that is way better.
the fluctuation could be due to thermal headroom the processor can clock higher if it finds it can it may have not been able to before. you should only be really concerned if its going into the 80s and 90s and its a massive climb up if it continues to climb it usually means a bad contact with the ihs is happening somewhere you can try unloosening the cooler a bit and do the tightening in a x pattern bit by bit do not tighten one end fully then go to the other you want to tighten each corner a little at the time. also incase you have contaminated thermal paste.

i recommend isopropyl alcohol and a cotton swab. to clean of the paste ( make sure pc unplugged from wall.)

i recomend thermal grizzly

Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut​

needs to be spread evenly.
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This method for applying:

Thermal Paste

Yes im cleaning all of the old thermal paste, and im using the Grizzly Thermal Paste.

And for the temperatures in games. Yeah but they sometimes spike to 87 or so. But most of the time they arer between 60-70, with occassional spikes to 87. Is that still a concern?
 
SteveBeast said:
This method for applying:

Thermal Paste

Yes im cleaning all of the old thermal paste, and im using the Grizzly Thermal Paste.

And for the temperatures in games. Yeah but they sometimes spike to 87 or so. But most of the time they arer between 60-70, with occassional spikes to 87. Is that still a concern?
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spread the paste evenly i use vinyl gloves ( non powdered) the dot methods dont really work causes thermal grizzly can be too thick which means it doesnt spread well at least from my experience.

60-70 is within range just fine and 87 isnt great so do believe its the paste not spreading evenly enough multiple dots can cause air pockets hence why its best to spread the paste before attaching the cooler.

the ihs shouldn't be visable the heatsink will press out any excessive paste but its important the entire ihs is covered cause this is a high wattage part.

if you dont have vinyl gloves you can use a hard plastic card ( dont use a bank card) but clean it it first.
 
ok but i have changed the paste 3 times now on that cpu and at all times when i lifted the watercooler the cpu was entirely covered with the paste. So are you sure its not ok?
And why does tomsHardware advertise the dot Method then for the 1700 Cpus? Or are they expeticing that im not using thermal grizzly`?
 
SteveBeast said:
ok but i have changed the paste 3 times now on that cpu and at all times when i lifted the watercooler the cpu was entirely covered with the paste. So are you sure its not ok?
And why does tomsHardware advertise the dot Method then for the 1700 Cpus? Or are they expeticing that im not using thermal grizzly`?
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Air pockets can be in the paste it might look completely converted but there could be surface gaps take a picture of cpu when you remove cooler.

I don't know why toms advises that method but dot methods require the CPU to push down the paste a uneven paste. Also just curious can you take a picture of the aio installation of the radiator.
 
beyondlogic said:
Air pockets can be in the paste it might look completely converted but there could be surface gaps take a picture of cpu when you remove cooler.

I don't know why toms advises that method but dot methods require the CPU to push down the paste a uneven paste. Also just curious can you take a picture of the aio installation of the radiator.
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The AIO is installed like the Picture I sent in the Link below, I hope that helps.

AIO Build
 
SteveBeast said:
The AIO is installed like the Picture I sent in the Link below, I hope that helps.

AIO Build
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What is your pc case
How many fans installed ?

Which way are the fans pointing on the aio

Are fans pointing into the case blades facing into the case or facing out of the case in the aio because if the blades are facing into the case your just dumping hot air into your pc you want the air to leave the pc case.
 
beyondlogic said:
What is your pc case
How many fans installed ?

Which way are the fans pointing on the aio

Are fans pointing into the case blades facing into the case or facing out of the case in the aio because if the blades are facing into the case your just dumping hot air into your pc you want the air to leave the pc case.
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Case is a bequiet 500dx.
2 fans I've installed , 1 at the back as exhaust and 1 at the top also as exhaust.
Fans of the rad pointing into the case, but the 2 exhaust fans should pull the air of the rad fans out right?
 
SteveBeast said:
Case is a bequiet 500dx.
2 fans I've installed , 1 at the back as exhaust and 1 at the top also as exhaust.
Fans of the rad pointing into the case, but the 2 exhaust fans should pull the air of the rad fans out right?
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I would have the radiator moved into the top of you can fit it in with fans blades pushing the air out of the case get some case fans for the front your essentially got no fresh intake all your doing is dumping hot air from the radiator into the case. The rear fans are just dumping some of the hot air out it probly can't keep up.
 
beyondlogic said:
I would have the radiator moved into the top of you can fit it in with fans blades pushing the air out of the case get some case fans for the front your essentially got no fresh intake all your doing is dumping hot air from the radiator into the case. The rear fans are just dumping some of the hot air out it probly can't keep up.
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Yeah but the case isn't that big , I think my first thought was initially to put the radiator on top but it didn't fit. But isn't the way I have installed the radiator the normal way almost everyone does it? And I mean I couldn't turn the radiator in the front so the fans would be as exhaust in the front because the tubes would be on the way
 
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SteveBeast said:
Yeah but the case isn't that big , I think my first thought was initially to put the radiator on top but it didn't fit. But isn't the way I have installed the radiator the normal way almost everyone does it? And I mean I couldn't turn the radiator in the front so the fans would be as exhaust in the front because the tubes would be on the way
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the radiator is a duel radiator should fit in the top. if fans on radiator are in way you could get some slim 120mm pressure fans.

even if everyone does it most have some sort of intake for fresh air usually the top is used for aio for best case scenario and the front is used for pulling fresh air in
 
beyondlogic said:
the radiator is a duel radiator should fit in the top. if fans on radiator are in way you could get some slim 120mm pressure fans.

even if everyone does it most have some sort of intake for fresh air usually the top is used for aio for best case scenario and the front is used for pulling fresh air in
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Ok I'm thinking about it
 
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