PS4 GPU is....Read this and i'l tell you

[bowzef]

8-core x86 CPU (built by AMD)
PC GPU, delivering almost 2 TFLOPS of performance.
Unified 8GB of GDDR5 memory for use by both the CPU and GPU with 176GB/s of memory bandwidth
Large local hard drive

"We don't know specifics of the GPU, but with approaching 2 TFLOPS we're looking at a level of performance somewhere between a Radeon HD 7850 and 7870. The highest end PC GPUs are already faster than this, but the PS4's GPU is a lot faster than the PS3's RSX which was derived from NVIDIA's G70 architecture (used in the GeForce 7800 GTX, for example). "

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6770/sony-announces-playstation-4-pc-hardware-inside

The design of the Radeon 7900M series has its roots to the Pitcairn chip as found, for example, on the desktop Radeon HD 7870. The 7970M in particular is similar to its desktop 7870 counterpart with 1280 1D shader cores and 80 texture units, but has a core clock of only 850 MHz versus the 1000 MHz of the HD 7870. As a result, general performance of the HD 7970M is expected to lie somewhere between the 7850 and 7870 desktop Radeon cards.

The TDP is 100W again confirming its not power hungry making it console friendly

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7970M.72675.0.html

 

[cookybiscuit]

Soo, how does a Gtx 570 compare? Will it be able to last the console generation? Or will consoles eventually surpass my rig?

Its about as fast. But with the better optimization console games have, they will likely be a bit faster, at least after a while.

570 is still plenty fast though.

 

[Sakkura]

Soo, how does a Gtx 570 compare? Will it be able to last the console generation? Or will consoles eventually surpass my rig?

It won't last another 6+ year console generation. But it should still hold up well for a while yet.

 

[jeubs]

PC OWNS ALL

 

[Marcus Barnett]

7870 is pretty damn powerful So I agree with you I'm sure it does more than that

 

[DjDafiDak]

will a i5 3470 be as strong as the ps4 cpu?

 

[Sakkura]

will a i5 3470 be as strong as the ps4 cpu?

The 3470 is a very fast quad core. The PS4 CPU is a slow 8-core CPU. When all 8 cores are utilized well, it may not be that much slower than the 3470 - but it definitely will be slower.

 

[jaguarskx]

The PS4 and Xbox One uses two quad core AMD Jaguar CPUs; each quad core module will have it's own shared 2MB L2 cache. The Jaguar CPU is much weaker than AMD's FX series especially since the clockspeed is so much lower. The Jaguar architecture is basically a low power entry level CPU who's market outside of the consoles are geared towards tablets (2 core version) and low cost laptops / netbooks. Jaguar is AMD's successor to Bobcat who's direct competition is Intel's Atom CPU.

The i5-3470 is a much more powerful CPU.

You can read more about the Jaguar CPU in the following links:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6976/amds-jaguar-architecture-the-cpu-powering-xbox-one-playstation-4-kabini-temash

http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/pc-mac/pc-components/processors/amd-a4-5000-apu-1153738/review#null


This information contradicts the "8 core Jaguar CPU" claim which basically means it is a single CPU with 8 cores rather than two quad core CPUs stuck together. I suppose we need to wait a little longer for more info.

 

[GEO_2009]

Can I add a stupid answer in here, Consoles will always be better when they are released (fact), they will also always nearly be better when they leave. Why? Because games companies will always produce mass market, and as much as the Elite PC Gamers want to think that they drive the market buying £4000 machines, the game developers will always make a pc version that is compatible with the average joes £500 laptop... hence spending less on a console dedicated to games is the better option in the long run, you maybe can't upgrade as you desire, but the games get closer to perfection as the near their end. any way that is just my thoughts.

I also beleive you will never be able to truely make a cross platform game, which is a shame because there is nothing I wuold like more than to beat my friends that own an xbox or a P.C. or a Playstation on the same game that we all bought but cant play together....

Oh yeah and they will run it at a loss, sepecially since they will be getting the PS plus money

 

[InsideDK]

Soo, how does a Gtx 570 compare? Will it be able to last the console generation? Or will consoles eventually surpass my rig?

Remember that a console is about 2-3 times more effective than a computer with similar specs. So the nearly 2 TFLOPS of the PS4 will be equal to a 4-6 TFLOPS highend PC.

 

[bluepana]

i don't think it reach GTX 580 performance i'm thinking its going be at GTX 560 6870. or roughly Performance maybe little less , if it does reach GTX 580 then i'm nerd rage and have upgrade 🙁 HD7850 is 30% slower then GTX580 HD6870 vs The GTX 580 its roughly 50% more powerfull, then HD6870

 

[IAmSnowy]

They're just hyping up the specs now....It won't perform as good as they say it will.

 

[shaun2k]

At this point it's pretty much ALL speculation.

I don't expect leaps and bounds in GPU tech in the next year enough to make me think this is going to be a bad purchase. I think with the OS and hardware being made for each other, the performance and visual aspects of this system will perform profoundly in comparison to the PS3. As TV's are still limited to 1080P, we also aren't asking my PS4 to push the 2560x1440 my PC has to to meet my requirements.

I'm looking forward to playing Crysis 3 level visuals on the couch. Maybe this will finally get me away from spending an easy $1k a year on trying to keep my gaming rig "up to date".

As a hardcore PC gamer, I have a feeling there will be a new awe with the PS4 seeing some very striking graphics on a 50...60....70" TV. Something you just can't get from a 24..27..30" PC monitor.

Now if for once I can plug in my Razer Nostromo and Black Mamba mouse to the PS4...though unlikely....I'd be in fragtastic heaven.

tell me that when using a dell 30" at 2560 by 1600.. a 60" tv will still be 1080p no matter how much you piss about with it.. next gen purely wont be next gen..it just wont, it will have advancement but at Sony's pace, meaning some extra tessellation /lighting, maybe more fluid gameplay..and that will be it..dont forget that you paying a lot of money for old but tweaked hardware, a 6gb 7970-90 / titan is where its at graphically, these cards are serious bits of kit, hence why they cost £500+ plus just for a card not a whole gaming system.. do yourself a favor guys and just wait and play with someone else s first, you WILL be disappointed no different to a game that has had amazing pr and when it gets released it's nothing like the hype..

 

[shaun2k]

They're just hyping up the specs now....It won't perform as good as they say it will.

exactly mate..a bit like our gaming market now with some titles

 

[TlfT]

It will certainly blow any other 2013 $400 gaming system out of the water especially as time goes on. But thats all it will do, play games and handle some media.

 

[meowmix44]

They didn't start working on the console this year, possibly, 2 years ago. I'd say 6850

I know this is blasphemous to PC gamers, but for the majority of my single player games, I switch to my 42 inch HDTV and use my XBOX 360 controller. I think it looks better number one, and number two I think it's more comfortable to play on the bed with a simple controller in hand. I still game on BF3 on the monitor cuz I have to be competitive, and other games that don't have controller support. The controller couch set up is better, I'm sorry. Consoles are ALWAYS worth having for the sheer fact of when you have friends over NOBODY wants to hang out and take turns playing PC games with a mouse/keyboard.

Why go out and buy a specialized machine when you could instead buy a generalized machine that can do everything the generalized machine can do and more?

 

[meowmix44]

At this point it's pretty much ALL speculation.

I don't expect leaps and bounds in GPU tech in the next year enough to make me think this is going to be a bad purchase. I think with the OS and hardware being made for each other, the performance and visual aspects of this system will perform profoundly in comparison to the PS3. As TV's are still limited to 1080P, we also aren't asking my PS4 to push the 2560x1440 my PC has to to meet my requirements.

I'm looking forward to playing Crysis 3 level visuals on the couch. Maybe this will finally get me away from spending an easy $1k a year on trying to keep my gaming rig "up to date".

As a hardcore PC gamer, I have a feeling there will be a new awe with the PS4 seeing some very striking graphics on a 50...60....70" TV. Something you just can't get from a 24..27..30" PC monitor.

Now if for once I can plug in my Razer Nostromo and Black Mamba mouse to the PS4...though unlikely....I'd be in fragtastic heaven.

tell me that when using a dell 30" at 2560 by 1600.. a 60" tv will still be 1080p no matter how much you piss about with it.. next gen purely wont be next gen..it just wont, it will have advancement but at Sony's pace, meaning some extra tessellation /lighting, maybe more fluid gameplay..and that will be it..dont forget that you paying a lot of money for old but tweaked hardware, a 6gb 7970-90 / titan is where its at graphically, these cards are serious bits of kit, hence why they cost £500+ plus just for a card not a whole gaming system.. do yourself a favor guys and just wait and play with someone else s first, you WILL be disappointed no different to a game that has had amazing pr and when it gets released it's nothing like the hype..

Plus all that shared ram will be a friend to lazy developers. Games will be very lazily made but the ram would solve most of the problems. We dont need more lazy devs around here.

 

[Guest]

Soo, how does a Gtx 570 compare? Will it be able to last the console generation? Or will consoles eventually surpass my rig?

Remember that a console is about 2-3 times more effective than a computer with similar specs. So the nearly 2 TFLOPS of the PS4 will be equal to a 4-6 TFLOPS highend PC.

Shut the hell up with your 4-6 terraflops. Where did you get your computer engineering degree. If these next consoles play half of the games at 1080 and 60 fps i will be shocked. Oh wait they CANT because they are limited the HDMI 1.0. all you nerds forgot about that. enjoy your choppy 1080 gameplay until hdmi v1.4 is available for these next gen consoles, eventually. I predict the same chopped up frame rate only at 1080. however to a console gamer that is a bonus considering average gameplay on the old ps3 is only about 24fps. Technology needs to push for higher frame rates not higher resolution.

 

[Johan Kryger Haglert]

"We don't know specifics of the GPU, but with approaching 2 TFLOPS we're looking at a level of performance somewhere between a Radeon HD 7850 and 7870. The highest end PC GPUs are already faster than this, but the PS4's GPU is a lot faster than the PS3's RSX which was derived from NVIDIA's G70 architecture (used in the GeForce 7800 GTX, for example). "

GTX 770 3,2 TFLOPS, 224 GB/s memory band width.

192-bit 760 comes in a little lower, 256 bit higher. Very nice I guess.

The graphics card is about half the price of the PS4, a complete PC would cost a little more, could build one with an AMD APU for cheap though. It would likely not perform as well as the console and not come with the controller and use up more space but..

Seem kinda fair and I appreciate being able to see true numbers and hardware configuration rather than OMG TEH SUPER KÅMPJÅTAR!

 

[Johan Kryger Haglert]

Soo, how does a Gtx 570 compare? Will it be able to last the console generation? Or will consoles eventually surpass my rig?

Remember that a console is about 2-3 times more effective than a computer with similar specs. So the nearly 2 TFLOPS of the PS4 will be equal to a 4-6 TFLOPS highend PC.

lol.

Closer to the truth: Remember console gamers are happy with 720p 30 FPS medium settings so they won't understand what that extra 2-3 times of computing power is used for.