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I can't argue with you on that point, took me forever to be able to build a system that's good enough for gaming. Money is harder to come by these days.

 


I built an sg05 based system that sits under my living room tv for maybe $600. my technically challenged girlfriend has no problem using it. just saying...
 
I game on both the PC and PS3, spending upwards of $1,500 every 2-3 years for a new ground up PC build. The PS3 is great for me because it's portable. I can take it to parties and on trips to see family where everyone can enjoy side-by-side gaming. It also makes a great hotel companion when traveling on business solo. Can't do that with a PC. But nothing beats playing BF3, Crysis 2/3, F1 2013, and Grid 2 in front of a 1440p monitor. And yeah, nothing beats playing a FPS with a mouse and keyboard...a console controller sucks for that. One of my PS3 gaming buddies used to build PCs, but he got tired of spending so much money every time new games came out to play them at good settings. To each, his own.

With that said, I've got a PS4 on pre-order from Amazon and look forward to gaming on it. Except for loading home videos and pictures on it to show friends and family, it is not used as a media server. I am disappointed however that some games like COD Ghosts are *STILL* not going to be native 1080p at the PS4 launch. What the hell?
 
"Besides, those who are truly after the best technical experience out of these games should be playing them on a PC."
Unfortunately there are many titles that will remain console exclusive! Or will get ported to PC pretty late!
 

Those will most certainly be available after a PS4 update.

So no reason to pop zits over it.
 
wait what???? the new consoles wont be 1080p???? i thought that was the only reason to be releasing new consoles was to "actually" be 1080p instead of the crappy 720p.... you have to sit like 10 feet away from a 50" tv at 720p, any closer and it messes with your eyes. i like to sit about 4-5 feet away from my 50".
 
The fact that these so called 'next gen' consoles are already hitting their limits before launch is laughable...

HD content started hitting TV's in 2006... almost 8 years ago, in the electronics industry that might as well be a millennium ago.

There is no excuse, in 2013 (soon to be 2014) to be launching a console that isn't at a minimum capable of running 1080p/60... I suppose expecting any sort of Anti Aliasing is out of the question as well...
 
So the moral of the story here is neither is really capable of pushing future gaming at 1080p. We already have two shining examples out of the gate (BF4 and COD Ghosts). Xbox1 it seems will run into this every time on a top graphic title, though PS4 might escape 1/2 (COD is running native).

Note to self: Still ok to ignore consoles this gen as originally thought. Just buy a new Gsync GPU for future monitor purchase :)
 


You shouldn't need a whole new system every 2-3 years, just a new vid card should get the job done in between. A new cpu these days doesn't get much, but a vid card die shrink is huge.
 
I am selling my console, games etc. tomorrow. I probably will not buy another console for myself, the next one will be for kids if I ever have any.
 
Oh I know I shouldn't do this... But here it goes.

Oh, and thanks tom's, all that work to write up a answer to the PC console discussion and it's only view able on the forums... Thanks. maybe one other person will see this, I hope. Otherwise what a waste....

Were is this idea coming from that you have to upgrade to all new PC hardware every new IP or 2-3 years? If you put forethought into your PC this is surely not the case. And just because some like to do this doesn't make it is at all necessary. For example, a LOT of people still rocking the i7-920's(November 2008) or that beast Q6600(January 2007). If your still buying big box PC's I am sorry for you have not yet learned your lesson. For me it's ~5-6 years to build from the ground up.

Yeah, you upgrade your GPU in that time to make sure you still get the most out of the rest of your hardware and enjoy the new eye candy. And maybe buy another HDD, but that HDD isn't sold twice the normal cost because of a unnecessary proprietary design. Sell the old PC parts and buy new, repeat. Not to mention if your are a little patient and you can buy most PC game titles at a great discount offsetting the price further compared with consoles which generally keep prices higher for longer periods. Sadly though, this practice is bleeding over to PC titles more and more ie. Borderlands 1&2. When your ready to sell your old consoles and games it is heart-breaking how little you can get for them considering your investment.

PC's are open systems; Its a PC it does all those things PC do too 🙂. You cannot just say that full $1200 for a PC is JUST for the gaming aspect. Take the price of your home desktop and then add that up with ALL you spent on console hardware/services over it's lifespan, now you do have a gaming PC budget everyone claims is not affordable. Non-inflated storage prices, no paying twice for internet(live/plus) to play online multi-player, choose your components to fit your wants and needs. The FUN of learning how easy it is to assemble a PC that will kill a DELL any day. All these secondary console costs added up over the lifespan of a console could be instead put to a very nice PC. But this seems to be all too forgotten in the debate. I guess if your economic status allows for consuming without discretion, this is all pointless drivel. I look at this as a cost/benefit comparison.

The only man's argument I will concede to here.
10tecle: The PS3(read: consoles) is great for me because it's portable. I can take it to parties and on trips to see family where everyone can enjoy side-by-side gaming. It also makes a great hotel companion when traveling on business solo. Can't do that with a PC.
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So true, and that is where consoles have a place in the gaming market. Social, side-by-side gaming. I just don't think they should be the driving force in ALL of the gaming industry due to the other drawbacks, limitations, and profit motives.

As you can tell, I don't like consoles. Not because I am a PC fan boy. In words of Spock: It's only logical. I have reasons and I have stated them as clearly as I can articulate them. Owner of Atari 2600, N64, Xbox, PS2, Xbox 360. I was younger and more ignorant at the time. I Bought the PS2 just for GTA3 and Gran Turismo. For the 360 at the time I really just wanted to play the new Halo(single player ONLY) and I never bought more than a handful of used or platinum hits games for either systems and that is what gave me my epiphany. Too loud, too expensive, too closed off and when new models come out I have to do it ALL over again. It's because your buying into a limited performance closed system, controlled and designed to make a company profits and furthermore my biggest gripe of all, as with most PC gamers, being that this is holding back the technological progression of gaming industry as a whole. This is a fact. Yes your consoles are becoming more like PC's; crippled, simplified, expensive, profit generating, little PC's.

My 2 cents, let the down votes begin. Honestly, I really just want the gaming industry as a whole to progress in the best possible manor for ALL of us and in my opinion consoles systems are hindering this progress and focusing on generating profits at the gaming communities ultimate expense. Keep in mind we are going to be living with these things for 5+ years more than likely, just imagine how technology could grow in that time without the confines of these console systems.
 
Holy Christ. For every comment that bases the consoles gets bumped up while those who are neutral or pro towards the console get bumped down. Good god you people are even worse than console fanboys because if you're not bitching about console Vs. PC you are bitching about who gonna kick who's ass in the Intel, AMD and Nvidia front, geez it's like a damn kindergarten in here. I love my PC gaming as much as I love my console gaming really there is no freaking need to tear each other or the machines apart over the games they play and how they play them, the PC and the console are made for their markets and enjoyments they both have their genres and games they both provide experiences. I think I finally understand why every dev just threw their hands and just outright gave up on the PC it due to the freken BS fanboys demanding more and bitching and whining about the stupidest things, we always like to tear a new one for every conversation regarding anything related to hardware or games does everything have to be a freken war? Sheez every time I think about the PC as a gaming platform I always put a picture of responsible adults who are respectable and have a head on their shoulders, you know? People who actually use their brain?! But that view in my mind is starting to wither severely now all I see is a bunch of kids fighting over who get the candy bar, and it's really fitting too. Oh and as for all those who are bashing these systems graphically BEFORE they are even out, is..... Ahhhh just forget it really don't want to waste my time with people who just don't see anything else but BASH BASH BASH!!!!!!
 
Wow. Huge letdown gta v runs at 720p on ps3 and now this crap with ps4. Im so sticking with my pc and getting a steam box to my tv.

5.1ghz i7, 16gb 2200mhz ram, SLI gtx 680 at 1300mhz core/7ghz ram. Mushkin 240gb SSD.
 
honestly i'm generally disappointed with the "next gen" consoles. normally consoles at least release with "top of the Line" components in them for the year they release. and the next gen this time around is releasing with hardware that wasn't even top of the line last year (maybe it was the year before that). that said , the hardware itself is NOT my biggest disappointment.

the biggest disappointment is that both are just aiming for 1080p in most cases... when the hardware they are offering should be getting 1080p With 4xAA in ALL cases or at least FXAA (a post processing AA that is far less intensive than regular AA). To make matters worse NONE of the games I saw previewed at E3 looked any better than PC titles like Far cry 3 and tomb Raider that already exist today.

hell the PC i'm typing this on already has better hardware AMD FX -3850 , 16 gig of DDR3 PC 1866 ram , powercolor radeon 7870 MYST edition (uses same chip as a 7950 not a regular 7870).

Don't get me wrong i'm no fanboy and while I likely will get one of the new consoles in a few years. i'm certainly not seeing the value in it right now. I think my money would be better spent catching up by getting some of the other current gen consoles.
 
for some reason i'm not seeing the quote button any way...

Southernshark said this :
"Not totally true. keep in mind consoles actually predate the PC. My first at home video game experience was on a Sears Pong system. Then I moved to the Atari 2600. A lot of us old guys have fond memories of the console. More importantly though the console is cheaper/ smaller and comes out of the box with controllers which are very ergonomic. Thus it fills a role in the gaming market which would otherwise not be fully serviced."

my response .... Are you a fkn idiot ??? consoles do not predate PC's . Apple and IBM both had PC's to market a good year or two prior to any console system. do some research on it before you speak.
 
" Aaaaand, we all know Frostbite 3 is still using the [removed] AA mode in existence: FXAA
Which applies Vaseline blur on the display. So that might explain the soft PS4 shots."

actually toms did a up close comparision screen shot of FXAA and real time 4XAA , and concluded that FXAA is actualy better image quality than 4xAA the problem is not in FXAA , its the way that the frost bite engine goes about implementing it. compare 4XAA and FXAA in a different game engine and you'll see in most cases the FXAA looks better while also taxing your system less because its a post processing AA.

Watch the language. - G
 
Hahahahaha, that last line made me LOL at work.
"Besides, those who are truly after the best technical experience out of these games should be playing them on a PC."
Couldn't have said it better myself. If you want plug and play, go console. If you want the best graphics, frame rates, effects etc etc and are willing do deal with some bugs/technical issues, PC is the way to go!!
 


Well the meaning of words change. I give you that. But back in the day to be a PC a device needed two qualities to be called a PC. It had to be upgradeable and programmable by the owner ( easily ). A console is neither of those things out of the box. There have been hybrids like the Atari 800 or 1200xl and the Commodore 64 which were part PC and part console but those devices are long dead. Today's consoles would not have been deemed PCs in the 80s even though the processors are much more powerful.
 
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