Pudding Farming

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I am curious as to the best time to start pudding farming. I just started a
game which features a sink and altar on DL1. My samurai is only level one,
I'm quite skilled at pudding dancing and was looking for any input.

 

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Haakon Studebaker wrote:
> I am curious as to the best time to start pudding farming. I just started a
> game which features a sink and altar on DL1. My samurai is only level one,
> I'm quite skilled at pudding dancing and was looking for any input.

The question is not what is the best time to start pudding farming.
Rather, the question is can you handle the other results of disturbing a
sink? Nope, don't think so either. Especially after he/she gets tired of
you.

 

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Gary Olson wrote:
> Haakon Studebaker wrote:
>
> > I am curious as to the best time to start pudding farming. I just started a
> > game which features a sink and altar on DL1. My samurai is only level one,
> > I'm quite skilled at pudding dancing and was looking for any input.
>
> The question is not what is the best time to start pudding farming.
> Rather, the question is can you handle the other results of disturbing a
> sink? Nope, don't think so either. Especially after he/she gets tired of
> you.

The dishwasher is level 6 according to the monster table.
The two types of pudding are levels 5 and 10. That gives
a really good idea of what level you need to be - Pudding
farming involves filling an entire level with level 10
monsters that do rust and corrosion damage to iron.

Short of around level 12-13 those are pretty strong
monsters to be surrounding yourself with and casting healing
spells on. Have any metallic exposed armor or weapons that
are not rustproofed or at maximum damage and thing will tend
to get steadily worse.

I'm not sure what the best level is to start pudding
farming but there's sure a minimum level.

 

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Jove wrote:
> Doug Freyburger wrote:
> >Gary Olson wrote:
> >> Haakon Studebaker wrote:
>
> >> > I am curious as to the best time to start pudding farming. I just started a
> >> > game which features a sink and altar on DL1. My samurai is only level one,
>
> >> The question is not what is the best time to start pudding farming.
> >> Rather, the question is can you handle the other results of disturbing a
> >> sink?
>
> >The dishwasher is level 6 according to the monster table.
> >The two types of pudding are levels 5 and 10.
>
> For black puddings (from a sink, in this case), yes. To my
> pleasant surprise, the monster spoiler:
>
> <http://www.spod-central.org/~psmith/nh/mon1-343.txt>
>
> shows black puddings *don't* have a rotting attack. (or should
> that be "rotting nggnpx" ;^)

Brown puddings have a rotting attack. Black puddings have
a rusting attack.

> Pudding farming can also be done with brown puddings, level 5
> (as you pointed out) monsters: less dangerous, less effective,
> less susceptible to being produced on demand. Brown puddings
> have a "rot organic" items attack, which is bad on spell friendly
> armor.

That's the trade-off. One type has no effect on iron
armor and weapons, the other no effect on cloth, leather
and wooden armor and weapons. Elven dagger/broadsword
works great on black pudding because they are made of
wood.

> Permanent Elbereth *might* make it possible, for the
> determined. Especially since XP level should increase rapidly
> when starting from XP 1. Equipment should also improve from
> death drops. (One of the big advantages of farming black
> puddings.)

I've never considered whether higher level monsters leave
better death-drop equipment or if it is random based on
depth or whatever.

> >I'm not sure what the best level is to start pudding
> >farming but there's sure a minimum level.
>
> The "Permanent Elbereth" level?

Yup. That or high enough to not need it. The "permanent"
in question is burned letters from fire/lightning not
etched with an athame.

 

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On 13 Sep 2005 06:36:13 -0700, "Doug Freyburger"
<dfreybur@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Gary Olson wrote:
>> Haakon Studebaker wrote:
>>
>> > I am curious as to the best time to start pudding farming. I just started a
>> > game which features a sink and altar on DL1. My samurai is only level one,
>> > I'm quite skilled at pudding dancing and was looking for any input.
>>
>> The question is not what is the best time to start pudding farming.
>> Rather, the question is can you handle the other results of disturbing a
>> sink? Nope, don't think so either. Especially after he/she gets tired of
>> you.
>
>The dishwasher is level 6 according to the monster table.
>The two types of pudding are levels 5 and 10. That gives
>a really good idea of what level you need to be - Pudding
>farming involves filling an entire level with level 10
>monsters that do rust and corrosion damage to iron.

For black puddings (from a sink, in this case), yes. To my
pleasant surprise, the monster spoiler:

<http://www.spod-central.org/~psmith/nh/mon1-343.txt>

shows black puddings *don't* have a rotting attack. (or should
that be "rotting nggnpx" ;^)

Pudding farming can also be done with brown puddings, level 5
(as you pointed out) monsters: less dangerous, less effective,
less susceptible to being produced on demand. Brown puddings
have a "rot organic" items attack, which is bad on spell friendly
armor.

>
>Short of around level 12-13 those are pretty strong
>monsters to be surrounding yourself with and casting healing
>spells on. Have any metallic exposed armor or weapons that
>are not rustproofed or at maximum damage and thing will tend
>to get steadily worse.

Permanent Elbereth *might* make it possible, for the
determined. Especially since XP level should increase rapidly
when starting from XP 1. Equipment should also improve from
death drops. (One of the big advantages of farming black
puddings.)

>
>I'm not sure what the best level is to start pudding
>farming but there's sure a minimum level.

The "Permanent Elbereth" level?


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Jove

 

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Jove <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> shows black puddings *don't* have a rotting attack. (or should
> that be "rotting nggnpx" ;^)

Opportunity for YA(N)FM - if you're hallucinating, and a pudding
hits you with a rotting attack, you get "Lbhe pybnx ebgf!" or "Lbhe
nezbe ebgf!" or whatever as appropriate.

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Oh to have a lodge in some vast wilderness. Where rumors of oppression
and deceit, of unsuccessful and successful wars may never reach me
anymore.
-- William Cowper

 

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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:03:32 +0000 (UTC), Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner
<jdw@panix.com> wrote:

>Jove <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> shows black puddings *don't* have a rotting attack. (or should
>> that be "rotting nggnpx" ;^)
>
> Opportunity for YA(N)FM - if you're hallucinating, and a pudding
>hits you with a rotting attack, you get "Lbhe pybnx ebgf!" or "Lbhe
>nezbe ebgf!" or whatever as appropriate.

I'm laughing out loud.

And it could alternate as you press the space bar (when rest-on
-space is off) just as hallucinating monsters/items continue to
morph under those same conditions.


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Jove