My system is 10900k with 32gb ddr4 ram and 3090 everything running smoothly but wondering would it be waste of money to upgrade to 12900k and ddr5 ram
My system is 10900k with 32gb ddr4 ram and 3090 everything running smoothly but wondering would it be waste of money to upgrade to 12900k and ddr5 ram
Not a waste if you can afford it....which is known to you and you alone. You might get X more frames per second or be able to sort that Excel spreadsheet in .46 seconds rather than .56.
I would wait and see what Ryzen 7000 is like compared to Intel 13th gen before upgrading from 10th gen. I myself might hold out even longer. I am curious to see if AMD will do 3D v-cache versions of the 7000 chips at the start, or do a refresh with them. That might be the time for me.
Haven't seen a response from Intel regarding tons of cache, just more E cores planned. I think raptor lake tops out at 36MB of cache. AMD sitting over there with 96MB of cache on their first go...
I would wait and see what Ryzen 7000 is like compared to Intel 13th gen before upgrading from 10th gen. I myself might hold out even longer. I am curious to see if AMD will do 3D v-cache versions of the 7000 chips at the start, or do a refresh with them. That might be the time for me.
Haven't seen a response from Intel regarding tons of cache, just more E cores planned. I think raptor lake tops out at 36MB of cache. AMD sitting over there with 96MB of cache on their first go...
And cache is important for gaming and lots of other stuff. I noticed that with this 5900x.
Yeah, it was one of the reasons the 11900K (16mb) wasn't significantly faster than the 10900K (20mb) in many game titles. The other reason I got this thing. Alderlake has 30mb which is comparable to the high end Ryzen 5000 parts.
Take the high IPC of Alderlake or Raptorlake and slap on some more cache, it would be interesting to see how it compares. AMD kind of has it on their roadmap to do v-cache for Ryzen 7000, but nothing certain. Doesn't look like the first 7000 series will though. I am hoping for a 2023 refresh that does.
Latest rumor is that Ryzen 7000 vCache will be 100MB. Those will not launch with Ryzen 7000 this fall.AMD kind of has it on their roadmap to do v-cache for Ryzen 7000, but nothing certain. Doesn't look like the first 7000 series will though. I am hoping for a 2023 refresh that does.
That’s just like 5800X3D then (96MB L3 + 4 MB L2), makes no sense though. L2 on Zen 4 is doubled, so it would be 104 MB instead and I doubt they will increase the V cache, it’s more than enough.Latest rumor is that Ryzen 7000 vCache will be 100MB. Those will not launch with Ryzen 7000 this fall.
If your primary use is gaming then I'd look at the i7 12700 / 12700F.My system is 10900k with 32gb ddr4 ram and 3090 everything running smoothly but wondering would it be waste of money to upgrade to 12900k and ddr5 ram
Imagine if L3 cache becomes a "gaming" metric and in 10 years we are counting the amount of gigabytes of L3 and how many 100's of mbs of L2 there is in our CPUs.That’s just like 5800X3D then (96MB L3 + 4 MB L2), makes no sense though. L2 on Zen 4 is doubled, so it would be 104 MB instead and I doubt they will increase the V cache, it’s more than enough.
In my opinion if his primary use is gaming he should stick with the 10900k for as long as he can maintain 200-300 fps in 1080p or 1440p at 150-200 fps. Otherwise there is no point in upgrading past what he has.If your primary use is gaming then I'd look at the i7 12700 / 12700F.
In my opinion if his primary use is gaming he should stick with the 10900k for as long as he can maintain 200-300 fps in 1080p or 1440p at 150-200 fps. Otherwise there is no point in upgrading past what he has.
The 12900K is a power hungry heat producing hose job for a gaming build imo. As far as DDR5 goes ... it' getting cheaper.I game but dont really check the frame rates aslong as its smooth that what all that matters and with 17 12700k dont really see benfit with two extra cores. Since AMD is getting much better might aswell see what happens in future because dont see 10900k is going to struggle yet. Only thing can do is ditch ddr5 and stay with ddr4 and 12900k but then again thats bad idea to
The 5800X3D is much worse in everything but gaming, and tmk that's the only SKU with that much cache, I wouldn't think it's safe to make this assumption.I would wait and see what Ryzen 7000 is like compared to Intel 13th gen before upgrading from 10th gen. I myself might hold out even longer. I am curious to see if AMD will do 3D v-cache versions of the 7000 chips at the start, or do a refresh with them. That might be the time for me.
Haven't seen a response from Intel regarding tons of cache, just more E cores planned. I think raptor lake tops out at 36MB of cache. AMD sitting over there with 96MB of cache on their first go...
My 5800X3D hits 4.55ghz on 4 cores and 4.45ghz on 4 cores. I have not seen it get hotter than my old 3900x (78C).It was on their recent presentation even under the Ryzen 7000 line up, and was half confirmed after direct questioning. And again more recently if I recall. Just no firm timeline other than "After the launch of Ryzen 7000"
We can call the 5800X3D a production prototype. It has issues with clock speeds and temperature so that the cache doesn't fail, but those are probably being addressed now.
With an RTX3090, I sure hope its 1440p or 4k.In my opinion if his primary use is gaming he should stick with the 10900k for as long as he can maintain 200-300 fps in 1080p or 1440p at 150-200 fps. Otherwise there is no point in upgrading past what he has.
I lost hope long ago that people pair their hardware well enough to know a 3090 is not for 1080p gaming.With an RTX3090, I sure hope its 1440p or 4k.
My 5800X3D hits 4.55ghz on 4 cores and 4.45ghz on 4 cores. I have not seen it get hotter than my old 3900x (78C).