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Hello guys,

First of all i love this forum and the website. It helped me alot of times in the past. The community is very mature and extremely helpfull in my opinion. Anyway i have been wondering about something for a while now and i thought maybe i can finally get a good answer if i post it here.

my specs:
- asus1080ti founder edition
- intel i7 - 3770k @ 3.50ghz
-16gb ram
- a very old motherboard (p8p67 deluxe) https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/271547/asus-p8p67-deluxe.html

I'm really wondering if my cpu and my motherboard is holding me back. My pc is acting up somethimes. I have a htc vive and its not really performing as it should i have the impression. Or maybe its just me.

So my question is do i need an upgrade for 4k gaming and my htc vive or is this good enough. If i need an upgrade what do u suggest?

Thx alot in advance
 
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The p8p67 deluxe was designed for a second generation cpu . Your CPU is clearly a 3rd generation cpu but they implemented the final bios to support these, then stopped producing the motherboard . The pcie ports on the p67 are version 2.0 .Your cpu has 3.0. Your GFX is version 3.0 too. The later motherboards (z77) for that Cpu allowed for better and faster performance as they were designed with it in mind.
Now I apologize to any one who disagrees but the facts are online including benchmarks and can be compared etc .
I'm in no way trying to tell the chap to upgrade his board I just want him to have the FACTS and not just opinions.
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https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080_PCI_Express_Scaling/25.html

have a look at some of the benches & graphs there ,they tested an awful awful lot of titles there.
Ill grant you thats a 1080 not a ti but the results are exactly the same.
That previous review was a titan x btw - about 5% weaker than a 1080ti if that.

We hope our data helps settle a lot of flame wars on the forums. PCI-Express 3.0 x8 is just fine for this generation of GPUs, and so is PCI-Express 2.0 x16. You lose about 4% in performance at PCI-Express 2.0 x8 and PCI-Express 3.0 x4, but that's no deal breaker. If you're still gaming on a PCI-Express 1.1 platform, congratulations, your future-proofing has worked for many years, but it may now be time to upgrade.
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Thats what techpowerup had to say on the matter.

Irregardless ,even if he did want to upgrade that board to a z77 with pci-express 3 you've got as much chance of finding a decent board at a decent price as you would seeing a pig fly.
 
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That,s odd since your first post you have changed your opinion. Maybe you have the newer internet now too.
The new GTX 1080 ti is not like normal Gpu,s and throws data around like crazy Its memory bandwidth alone is 484gb/s .
 
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I haven't changed my opinion; I still say that Gam3r01 is correct. So is madmatt30; I don't understand why you are trying to prove that PCI Express 2.0 is not good enough for a GTX 1080Ti. Post a link to trusted benchmarks that show PCI Express 3.0 x16 improves FPS in several games by a lot more than 5% at 4K; the ones I found all show a 1-5 % improvement at most.
 
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Maplins , Pcupgrade.co.uk Amazon. Wow is that a pig with wings?
 
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Because we are in 2017 and his motherboard came out around 2011 . His Cpu is ok but that graphics card was not designed for that board at all,not even a little bit. I don't understand why you are trying to convince him he will not get more performance with a better chipset . Its not just the pcie 3.0 the actual chipset hes using is not as fast .
Everything I have said is true but I have proved that you don't bother with facts as twice I have corrected your statements .
The OP originally said his pc wasnt performing as he expected it to . I'm going to leave this thread now but I think its only fair you figure out why its not performing as it should taking into account he has an i7 with 8 threads 4 cores highly rated and a top of the line gtx 1080 ti very highly rated . Good luck .
 
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Look his motherboard is designed for 2nd gen cpu . he has a 3rd gen . You don't see anything wrong with that ?

It shows a CPU expert badge on your profile ! did you steal it?

 
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We have gone a bit off track on this. It will work and has been working on his older motherboard . But it will work faster with a Ivy bridge chipset dedicated to get the best from a Ivy bridge gen 3 cpu . This is the most cost effective way for a boost in performance with his current cpu.

If he wanted to fully upgrade give him an alternative, I promise not to add anything .

 
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could build a system for that.

 
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Grandmaster Please accept my apologies I didnt realise i was dealing with a Grandmaster .
 
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Matt...Matt ... Matt Please tell me they were testing it with an ivy bridge cpu gen 3 and a 1080ti .using a gen 2 p67 motherboard.
A few years ago your argument was valid. pre big boys cards.
 
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Yes , with a 3770 (which is actually irrelevant because I'm talking solely about GPU scores)
Spend some time & check it yourself - its easy enough if you can find the time instead of wasting it here droning on with no actual evidence.


P67,z68 (pci-e 2) same GPU score as a z77 sabretooth & numerous other z77 boards .

Some other scores substantially higher but people were hitting them with 2000mhz+ core clocks.

The ones I checked were 1830-1850 stock.
Biggest discrepancy I found was 300 marks , which when the overall scores are 7300-7600 is less than 5%.

A couple of occasions the pci-exoress 2 boards beat their z77 counterparts so we'll put that down to drivers or margin of error.

So yeah , I can do math , sarcasm & research all at the same time.
 
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So your not understanding that the gen 3 i7 3770k has Pcie 3.0 revision on the chip . Do you know how modern cpu's work ?
The benchmarks are for pre big boys toys . Things have changed .


 
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Yup I know exactly how it works , & amd fx CPU's do not offer any native pcie-x 3 support rendering your point about that Asus board moot.
& yesI was completely aware of that board & it pretty much emulates pci-express 3 falsely & cant saturate all the available bandwidth.

That board has been a bone of contention for years since it was released , because the specs are false .
 
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We can agree to disagree Matt . Its not a contest I'm not out for badges .There's always going to be disagreements of methodology when dealing with pc's and frankly do you know how far i have to scroll down now to answer .
Im sure the he/she who asked the question in the first instance has long gone now.
All the best Gary

 
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48 and qualified .. You? Do you have to resort to personal attacks ?


 
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