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Shenan...You're an MS-MVP...??? What exactly are the criteria for such a
title? Certainly being polite, helpful and knowledgeable were NOT among the
prerequisites! Your post was rude and incredibly disingenuous, and only
added to the confusion about x64 technology. The nature of your comments are
rather contrary to the "MVP" status you hold, as well as the very purpose of
the newsgroup in general. Thanks for making certain the you are/were
informed before opening your big mouth.
FACTS:
NCCH-DL: Asus has engineered this new dual Xeon platform utilizing the
tried and true 875P chipset which dominated the market in late 2003 and early
2004. The 875P is tied together with a new Intel Southbridge, new Serial
ATA/150 RAID functionality, and most importantly, support for Intel's new
EM64T "Nocona" processors" for a motherboard which some argue may be one of
the most innovative this year.
The top half of the board is dominated by the two 604-pin Xeon processor
sockets, which can handle Xeon processors up to 3.6 GHz and higher. Unlike
most new Xeon platforms (which can only work with new 800 MHz FSB Xeons), the
NCCH-DL can work with both 533 MHz and 800 MHz FSB Socket-604 Xeon
processors.
I would have mentioned numerous reasons why this board would NOT be a wise
choice for mating with the new x64 iterations of Windows XP or 2003 Server.
I would have questioned the choice of motherboards entirely...at least for a
gaming system. Just the memory limitations alone, make this dual Xeon
offering a less than optimum platform for utilizing 64-bit technology.
For instance: The NCCH-DL has four DDR memory slots, which can handle up to
4GB of DDR-400 SDRAM. This number is quite a bit lower than the peak memory
capacities of most Xeon platforms, which can often support 8GB to 16GB of
memory. The 4GB limitation is due to the board's 875P chipset...and it
defeats one of the main benefits of the 64-bit OS...supports for up to 128
gigabytes (GB) of RAM and 16 terabytes of virtual memory!!! On the plus
side, the 875P chipset allows the use of standard (non-ECC, non-registered)
DDR-400 memory modules with Xeon processors, meaning you do not have to
purchase expensive ECC/R DDR2 memory modules for these new Xeon processors.
NCCH-DL features an AGP 8x Pro slot, which is the first (and only, to my
knowledge) "Nocona" Xeon platform to boast AGP connectivity. Every other
"Nocona" platform to date has utilized a PCI Express x16 graphics slot, which
is all fine and good, except there are a lot of workstation users out there
who have purchased expensive AGP-based workstation graphics cards.
Still...once again...a true gamer would likely embrace the newer
chipsets/architecture from Intel such as the 925 or 955.
The 875P chipset does have limitations, in that it can only hold up to 4GB
of memory (which, in reality, ends up being 3.3GB if you max out the board,
as the 875P chipset can never hold true 4GB memory capacities), and you
cannot run any new, high-bandwidth PCI Express graphics cards and
peripherals. If you were buying a high-end system from scratch, these issues
might play into your selection of motherboards, but if you’re upgrading to a
new Xeon configuration and already have DDR memory or an AGP graphics card to
use, the NCCH-DL makes for an enticing upgrade option. --
The fact remains...the board, with the appropriate processor, BIOS and
OS...IS INDEED 64-bit compatible. I believe the use of the 64-bit OS in this
configuration to be a considerable waste...and the chances of having the
necessary drivers for the older hardware seems highly unlikely. All in all,
this isn't a gaming solution I would have chosen...particularly if 64-bit
computing was my aim. Still, I hope to have shed a little light on the
subject...rather than just taunting and poking fun at someone with little
regard to providing assistance, much less having the FACTS together before
attempting to make another look foolish!
Thanks to all who so avidly support the x64 technologies and everyone who
helped beta test the newest XP & 2003 Server Edition versions!
Warmest Regards,
Brendon F. (DFW, TX USA)
"Shenan Stanley" wrote:
> juggernaut wrote:
> > I have a qustion, i just ordered parts to build myself a gaming
> > computer, and i also purchased Windows XP pro x64, and when i try to
> > install it on my new pc, i get an error message that says that this
> > software cannot be installed on this computer.
> >
> > I have an NCCH-DL Dual Intel Xeon 800FSB mother board, and a Xeon[tm]
> > 3.06GHZ, 2 512mb ram, how can i find out what is causing the problem?
> >
> > I would greatly appreciate the help
>
> Hmm.. Let's see..
> You are trying to install a 64bit Operating System on a 32bit hardware
> system.
>
> Guess that settles that one. =)
>
> (Having a dual 32bit based system does not make it a 64bit system, heh.)
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
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