R.I.P. Steve Jobs, 1955-2011

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[citation][nom]mrmaia[/nom]Even Apple/Mac OS haters such as myself must admit how amazing Jobs' work was. He co-created Apple, then got fired from his own company, then what? Created Pixar Animation and NeXT. The guy is a genius. Ever heard of Midas' touch?The world is a bit "dumber" now, as one if its greatest geniuses have passed away. May heaven be enlightened with your great mind, Mr. Jobs.[/citation]
Even though I didn't agree with many of it's views, he for better of for worse helped the technology reach the level it is today. Just one thing though, he didn't created Pixar. Pixar was created in 79 by lucasfilm and Jobs bought it in 86.
 
[citation][nom]fulle[/nom]Ironically, there have been funds after Steve's death, to donate to cancer research.He was an evil man, guys. He just was...[/citation]

I was thinking the same but I did notice there is an Apple logo on the Folding@Home website. I don't know how much was donated but there must have been some to get that logo. Perhaps just a donation of coders time to facilitate the Mac client.
 
[citation][nom]gokanis[/nom]So you insult the masses, nice jab. And its not hatred towards Apple, its a disklike of certain practices. Everyone does good and bad in their life and its not for me to judge like you judge the masses. People are alot smarter than you think they are, they are just set in their ways. R.I.P. Steve.[/citation]
Nice job taking things out of context. You obviously don't understand what I said. People hate Apple. Most of Tom's does. They don't like Apple. If they disliked them, they wouldn't go to the extent of posting hate comments about Apple on all the articles based on them. Take a look at them (you'll see how much hate there is; don't try to sugar coat things). What I said is that those who hate Apple grieve over the death of Jobs, but that doesn't mean they won't change their ways, so why grieve in the first place?
 
Much respect Mr. Jobs.

It's sad to think that so much money will be made now, because of your passing. I would hope that Apple would not "sell out" your memory by using your likeness to gain anything. But, then again, this is THE world we live in.
 
... don't give money to cancer research to research... because the researchers have a interest to get money, so they won't bring results fast.. if any results at all... give money to test solutions, that claim to work... just do a web search of 'healing cancer'... so we don't lose any good people because of cancer too soon...
 
[citation][nom]hotsacoman[/nom]If someone like Hitler were alive in this era and had just passed away [/citation]
This is also entirely irrelevant unless you're ACTUALLY foolish enough to try to draw a comparison between Hitler and Steve Jobs. (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and instead saying you're just spewing random BS) In either case, though, I think you just invoked Godwin's Law.

[citation][nom]fellskrazykayaker[/nom]in 1985 a little company named Microsoft develop a program called Excel and first released on the Mac.[/citation]
Microsoft wasn't really "Little" then. It could be fairly considered a "sibling;" both rose to dominance across much of the same time span; the only real difference is that Microsoft didn't have the 90s-era slump that Apple did when it was without Jobs.

[citation][nom]fellskrazykayaker[/nom]I can't name one major tech company that doesn't outsource its assembly to Asia.[/citation]
You could actually take this a bit further: pretty much every major mainstream electronic gadget gets assembled by the exact same company, Foxconn. This means that using an Android phone doesn't make you any better off, since it turns out that the majority of Android phones are assembled by the exact same people that assemble iPhones! And of course, this also goes for handheld consoles (both from Sony and Nintendo) as well as all three home consoles, and countless other devices.

So while the biggest slap of infamy was sent at Apple, no one's entirely innocent here.

[citation][nom]DjEaZy[/nom]... don't give money to cancer research to research... because the researchers have a interest to get money, so they won't bring results fast..[/citation]
Way to go to fall for objectivist BS, as well as attempting to derail the conversation here!

It's most ironic given that Jobs was a pretty clear refutation of the flawed objectivist view of rationality. His salary wouldn't have been $1 had he been just in things for the money.
 
While I may despise Apple and all of their ultra-proprietary products, and may not have liked Steve much whilst alive, I do feel bad for his family and friends...

Nulla è reale, tutto è lecito. Requiescat in pace...
 
Steve Jobs was a great visionary. Whether you like his products or not, he had tremendous influence on the computer, telephone, and entertainment industry. His resurrection of Apple computer in the late 90s is legendary.
 
I guess some people have a hard time separating "person" from "action." To pay respects to a deceased person does not automatically mean approval for the person's premortem actions.

Learn some duality, people.
 


Very soon, Apple will become so dominant, that any product other than theirs will be proprietary :)

Also, R.I.P Steve Jobs. Thank you for the iPhone!
 
The Steve Jobs that the world knew wasn't a person but a persona, media and marketing hype. Media and marketing hype live on. I keep hearing about how he changed the way I listen to music...nope...or use the phone...nope, heck I don't have a single Apple product from the past 20 years or even have media stored in any of Apple's favored formats.

I am still wondering why the US media is so bent on creating a genius out of a callus man who advanced the demise and locking down of technology. I can only come to the conclusion that many media companies like the New York Times own Apple stock and are primarily trying to drive the price of the stock up. The hype surrounding Mr Jobs remind me of the hype spewed out seemingly incessantly by tabloids the New York Times when Alan Greenspan was head of The Federal Reserve. We know and knew that Alan Greenspan was no genius as the New York Times would proudly trumpet constantly, and we certainly know that he will go down in history as having been largely responsible for helping create via artificially low interest rates the housing bubble whose burst nearly destroyed the US economy. Why does the media choose to go out on the limb to paint con-artists like Steve Jobs as geniuses when it is amply clear Jobs was just great at marketing and hype?


 
Such a shame. Who will Gates have now to battle it out in interviews with? Sigh..RIP Steve Jobs, a true loss to mankind.
 
[citation][nom]blackhawk1928[/nom]Very soon, Apple will become so dominant, that any product other than theirs will be proprietary[/citation]

More likely we will see Apple crash and burn soon much like the last time when they didn't had their glorified leader, the company have put too much effort into iconifying their former ceo that it will be impossible to replace and when that image fades... so will sales!
 


Apples Record 1Million iPhone Pre-Orders (Topping the 4, 3GS, 3G, and 2) in the first 24hour begs to differ :)
http://9to5mac.com/2011/10/10/apple-iphone-4s-pre-orders-hit-one-million-in-24-hours/
 


?? Sorry but that just seems silly. When you pay respects to a deceased person, you are not honoring the body but the person who animated/inhabited that body.

Most people would argue that a person is defined not only by his accomplishments (of which Steve Jobs had many) but also by his actions, good and bad. If there is such a thing as a scale of final judgment, then both the good and the bad need to be weighed. IMO, Steve Jobs' accomplishments are worthy enough to be considered legendary, but he also seems to have been the definitive "the end justifies the means" kind of person, which attitude I believe is to some extent necessary in almost all successful companies. He just seems to have taken it further than needed however.
 
I can't put down my iphone and I'm addicted to Valor, lol! I've had several phones but the iphone is the best phone to date that I have used. I do have to say that I have mixed emotions about how Apple has chosen to do business but like most here I have to tip my hat to Mr Jobs and his accomplishments. Long after most of us are gone, like it or not, Jobs will be remembered through Apple and their future accomplishments.

Remember that when your walking your grandkids through the local mall and you see an Apple store and see his face somewhere either on an Ad or the wall...
 
[citation][nom]fulle[/nom]Steve was, honestly, a pretty crummy person. From his humble beginnings cheating his friend Woz at Atari, to then stealing from Xerox, trying to escape child support by claiming he's sterile, running his company like a tyrant and getting thrown out, and so on and so on.... up to now, where he was a serious enemy in areas like net neutrality, customer software ownership, open source, censorship, and software cock-block patenting of basic ideas...Not to mention the man never gave back a dime to charity. And his arrogance extended to the way he did little things. Like not bothering to put a license plate on his car, and parking in handicap spots.He was an asshole. Let's be real here.On the flipside, Steve helped drive things forward, as a sorta pirate king type of figure. I honestly laugh at the "visionary" claims. Visionary in NOT stealing an idea, repackaging it, and marketing the hell out of it to make mad cash. But, regardless, he was an impressive presence, and competitor...Steve's death came across as a shame for me, because of his health habits. He was only 56, and had a very healthy pescretarian diet (like vegan + fish). Plus his Buddhist spiritual practices are also quite healthy, in reducing stress levels, and should have shown some benefit. And even with all that, he's taken out by cancer? It doesn't seem fair... And all the money in the world couldn't have saved him, either.*sigh*, but, again, this is NOT Bill Gates here. A good man who donates BILLIONS to health research. This is Steve Jobs. One of the most selfish individuals who ever lived. A man who didn't donate to cancer research in his good health. A man who shared more in common with Sam Walton, than his perceived rival, Gates.Ironically, there have been funds after Steve's death, to donate to cancer research.He was an evil man, guys. He just was...[/citation]

Well since my post was deleted, I'll just quote yours. A GRATE POST! . No bull, just right to the point.

I couldn't (and didn't) have said it better. It's heart warming to see that sometimes the end (Steve's ultimate end) can be justified due to the means. Karma can be a bitch!

Success should not in and of itself be the deciding factor of a person's worth and today all to often it is. IMHO how they conduct themselves along the way should be far more important.

 
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