Racial Template: "Raised by Another Race"

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laszlo_spamhole@freemail.hu wrote:
> As for the attack bonus against certain races... well, it's a _racial_
> bonus. I'd have to conclude that that bonus to attack is also due
> partly to an inborn enmity and only partly to training. For dwarves,
> orc-killing is just "in their blood"... but they need dwarvish training
> to realize that potential.

This 'in your blood' thing is tricky. I noticed stonecunning was also in that
list. Is that something that can be taught so much as it could be more racial
intuitive? Dwarves, with the blood and tears of the earth flowing through their
veins and all that?
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:01:21 -0700, ~consul
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>laszlo_spamhole@freemail.hu wrote:
>> As for the attack bonus against certain races... well, it's a _racial_
>> bonus. I'd have to conclude that that bonus to attack is also due
>> partly to an inborn enmity and only partly to training. For dwarves,
>> orc-killing is just "in their blood"... but they need dwarvish training
>> to realize that potential.
>
>This 'in your blood' thing is tricky. I noticed stonecunning was also in that
>list. Is that something that can be taught so much as it could be more racial
>intuitive? Dwarves, with the blood and tears of the earth flowing through their
>veins and all that?

Drow don't get it, and if it were a learned ability, you'd think that a few
millenia living underground would allow them to pick it up, it would
certainly be useful to them.

 

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Matt Frisch wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:01:21 -0700, ~consul
>>This 'in your blood' thing is tricky. I noticed stonecunning was also in that
>>list. Is that something that can be taught so much as it could be more racial
>>intuitive? Dwarves, with the blood and tears of the earth flowing through their
>>veins and all that?
> Drow don't get it, and if it were a learned ability, you'd think that a few
> millenia living underground would allow them to pick it up, it would
> certainly be useful to them.

Just flipped through Complete Adventurer, and there is a prestige class called
"Dungeon Delver" One of it's abitlies is Stonecunning (EX). And the text
specifically refers you to look at the dwarven racial trait of stonecunning, and
that this is version is a Competance bonus that will stack with the racial one
if you are a dwarf.

So you can learn it.
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:41:54 -0700, ~consul
<consul@INVALIDdolphins-cove.com> scribed into the ether:

>Matt Frisch wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:01:21 -0700, ~consul
>>>This 'in your blood' thing is tricky. I noticed stonecunning was also in that
>>>list. Is that something that can be taught so much as it could be more racial
>>>intuitive? Dwarves, with the blood and tears of the earth flowing through their
>>>veins and all that?
>> Drow don't get it, and if it were a learned ability, you'd think that a few
>> millenia living underground would allow them to pick it up, it would
>> certainly be useful to them.
>
>Just flipped through Complete Adventurer, and there is a prestige class called
>"Dungeon Delver" One of it's abitlies is Stonecunning (EX). And the text
>specifically refers you to look at the dwarven racial trait of stonecunning, and
>that this is version is a Competance bonus that will stack with the racial one
>if you are a dwarf.
>
>So you can learn it.

Ah, but that example also pretty clearly points to the fact that Dwarves
get it innately, and not through training. Therefore it would be retained
in a "raised by humans" situation, and a human raised by dwarves would not
receive it.

 

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Matt Frisch wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:41:54 -0700, ~consul
> <consul@INVALIDdolphins-cove.com> scribed into the ether:
>
>
>>Matt Frisch wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:01:21 -0700, ~consul
>>>
>>>>This 'in your blood' thing is tricky. I noticed stonecunning was also in that
>>>>list. Is that something that can be taught so much as it could be more racial
>>>>intuitive? Dwarves, with the blood and tears of the earth flowing through their
>>>>veins and all that?
>>>
>>>Drow don't get it, and if it were a learned ability, you'd think that a few
>>>millenia living underground would allow them to pick it up, it would
>>>certainly be useful to them.
>>
>>Just flipped through Complete Adventurer, and there is a prestige class called
>>"Dungeon Delver" One of it's abitlies is Stonecunning (EX). And the text
>>specifically refers you to look at the dwarven racial trait of stonecunning, and
>>that this is version is a Competance bonus that will stack with the racial one
>>if you are a dwarf.
>>
>>So you can learn it.
>
>
> Ah, but that example also pretty clearly points to the fact that Dwarves
> get it innately, and not through training. Therefore it would be retained
> in a "raised by humans" situation, and a human raised by dwarves would not
> receive it.

Maybe humans would get the competence bonus instead? After all, dwarves
appreciate conformity. They'd try and make their foundling a bit more
like a "proper dwarf," training the child in things that should be
second nature.

Just a thought.

-Tialan