Radeon R9 295X2 vs Nvidia Titan Z

[CAaronD]

Meanwhile I'm running all games on 760P high-medium 30 FPS 2x AA and I think it looks good xD I'm a 30FPS gamer lol. Soon I'll be playing all games maxed 40FPS 1440P with my new rig lol. I wonder how much difference I will see!

 

[Memhorder]

Hi memhorder,

I do not know about the titan z or titan black, or any titans for that matter, but the 295x2 runs hot but the beauty is that the card vents the heat via rads outside. Thus the room becomes hot. Personally my cards will go to the limit of 75c and throttle down, in a room with ambient temp of 32-34C running bf4, tomb raider or anything that utilise the all the GPUs.
My MSI twin forzr 780 sli runs to a max of 75C but never throttles, so I imagine the titans will be hotter but will not throttle down as well.
I think anand is running an open bench rig and ambient temp is much lower.

Yeah that is 10 to 14 degrees higher. Gee that's a hot room. You should look into air conditioning You got some pretty expensive hardware. What kind of monitors do you have to push em and have you taken frame rates for both the 780's and 295x? Are the 780's better?

I have air conditioning but in a different room, I am planning to move the rigs but awaiting the go ahead from the boss. (you know what I mean right?).
the two 780s are running dell u2713hm at 1440p. it is about the sweet spot for it, maxing all setting most of the time.
the 295x2s are running sammy ud590 at 4k. it is a problem magnet most of the time but when running well, eg BF3, BF4, ghosts, bioshock, tomb raider ...goshhhhh 4k gaming need to be seen to be believed.
And all this coming from a gtx 680 running a 1080p 2 years ago...

Honestly, my experience on gaming in summary:

Smooth gaming 680(1080p)>780 sli(1440p)> 295x2 CF(4k)
FPS and problems : 295x2 CF>780sli>680

It is however difficult to go back to 1080p when you have tasted 4k or even 1440p.

Good day and good luck.

Totally get it! Boss made you put your setup in a small closet because she don't want to see what's burning all your time and money. lol. That's why ambient temps skyrocket after a few minutes of play. 😉 JK
Throttling shouldn't be an issue once you have a cooler room temp like 21 to 25. Hope that gets the go ahead.

 

[kalijaga]

Hi memhorder,

I do not know about the titan z or titan black, or any titans for that matter, but the 295x2 runs hot but the beauty is that the card vents the heat via rads outside. Thus the room becomes hot. Personally my cards will go to the limit of 75c and throttle down, in a room with ambient temp of 32-34C running bf4, tomb raider or anything that utilise the all the GPUs.
My MSI twin forzr 780 sli runs to a max of 75C but never throttles, so I imagine the titans will be hotter but will not throttle down as well.
I think anand is running an open bench rig and ambient temp is much lower.

Yeah that is 10 to 14 degrees higher. Gee that's a hot room. You should look into air conditioning You got some pretty expensive hardware. What kind of monitors do you have to push em and have you taken frame rates for both the 780's and 295x? Are the 780's better?

I have air conditioning but in a different room, I am planning to move the rigs but awaiting the go ahead from the boss. (you know what I mean right?).
the two 780s are running dell u2713hm at 1440p. it is about the sweet spot for it, maxing all setting most of the time.
the 295x2s are running sammy ud590 at 4k. it is a problem magnet most of the time but when running well, eg BF3, BF4, ghosts, bioshock, tomb raider ...goshhhhh 4k gaming need to be seen to be believed.
And all this coming from a gtx 680 running a 1080p 2 years ago...

Honestly, my experience on gaming in summary:

Smooth gaming 680(1080p)>780 sli(1440p)> 295x2 CF(4k)
FPS and problems : 295x2 CF>780sli>680

It is however difficult to go back to 1080p when you have tasted 4k or even 1440p.

Good day and good luck.

Totally get it! Boss made you put your setup in a small closet because she don't want to see what's burning all your time and money. lol. That's why ambient temps skyrocket after a few minutes of play. 😉 JK
Throttling shouldn't be an issue once you have a cooler room temp like 21 to 25. Hope that gets the go ahead.

Let us all pray together....amennnnn

 

[CAaronD]

How much better does 1080P look over 760P? And 1440P over 1080P?

 

[mordorrson]

How much better does 1080P look over 760P? And 1440P over 1080P?

depends on the size of the screen, although 1440p looks much better than 1080p in everything smaller than 30", I don't know about anything larger than that because I haven't seen for myself, but I would guess that that difference is still noticeable for a while.

 

[kalijaga]

Hi,

my personal opinion is the ppi and screen size is important.
Coming from a laptop 900p to 23inch@1080p to 27inch@1440p and now 28inch@4k, each jump is very significant by itself. How much 'better' is very subjective, but the real estate you gain at each jump is tremendous. The ppi is important for me for photo editing and playing games, not really for work and web browsing. In gaming for instance, at 4k you can actually see the head of the enemy clearly at a distance where you are limited by ppi at 1440p or worse 1080p.
But to each jump comes the price of GPU horsepower....

 

[Memhorder]

Hi,

my personal opinion is the ppi and screen size is important.
Coming from a laptop 900p to 23inch@1080p to 27inch@1440p and now 28inch@4k, each jump is very significant by itself. How much 'better' is very subjective, but the real estate you gain at each jump is tremendous. The ppi is important for me for photo editing and playing games, not really for work and web browsing. In gaming for instance, at 4k you can actually see the head of the enemy clearly at a distance where you are limited by ppi at 1440p or worse 1080p.
But to each jump comes the price of GPU horsepower....

28 inch 4K would look good on my desk :0 But like you said GPU horsepower. I agree with you statement earlier. A 780's prime is the 1440p and under range. When I did the research I would look at minimal FPS of GPU (60's) to ensure smoothness. All I've got is 27" 1080p 60hz. Looks good love the real estate but I had to push it to the back of the desk to eliminate grains. At the time I was thinking multi monitor setup of 27's but now that 4K's at 60hz are $ 600 I'm not so sure. Possibly give it a year and upgrade.

 

[kalijaga]

Grains or pixels is really subjective I think.
When gaming on 1080p I saw pixels, then 1440p I cannot see them most of the time, at 4k I am gaming at 30cm from the screen just to snipe that ah heck on that tower in Blood Dragon, that is how small the reticle dot is. But obviously you cannot compare to my phone running 1080p at 6 inch.
So, by all means wait till all the problems is resolved, but man, 4k is definitely the way to go....

 

[CAaronD]

Well, with my puny budget I can go for a second hand 290x and 1440p 60Hz monitor 😀 Probably in three years I'll go for 4K when the monitors are at $300? $400?

 

[kalijaga]

More than enough running 1440p...I would be very happy still...4k still not mature enough....

 

[mordorrson]

More than enough running 1440p...I would be very happy still...4k still not mature enough....

Agreed. When you need to spend $1000-$1500 just for graphical power to be able to play at 50fps on high quality, it means it needs another or year or two before it really gets in to the enthusiast market and becomes a realistic option.

 

[Memhorder]

I wonder how much better things could get. I mean I've seen the clarity on 4K and it is amazing but what could possibly be next? I know there's already talk of 5K but how much clearer can you get? I guess 3D hey? Monitors have got to be coming to a point where they just can't get any better.

 

[TehCaucasianAsian]

Well, with my puny budget I can go for a second hand 290x and 1440p 60Hz monitor 😀 Probably in three years I'll go for 4K when the monitors are at $300? $400?

Be very careful with used GPUs, especially AMD cards. I have an R9 270 but I bought it New off of Newegg. Used AMD GPUs usually were used insanely overclocked in Cryptocurrency Mining rigs and are just barely functional. Also, if you are able to buy a used R9 290X, make sure it isn't the reference cooler. Even the worst custom cooling from a board partner is so much better than reference

 

[kalijaga]

At least for me, it seemed that the last 2 years, i have accelerated from full HD, WQHD and now 4K. For work and productivity, it has been awesome. for games, it is a mixed bag (mostly heavy troublesome bags), but that's life. I would expect 4k to be the next standard for at least 2-3 years. 8k will need at least 4-5 years, and probably will only be mainstream 8 years from now.
Time will tell.

 

[CAaronD]

I don't think there will be much difference between 4K and 8K 😛 4K is already so clear!

 

[Memhorder]

I guess eventually what it will all boil down to is how good your eye sight is. Kalijaga? Are you able to fit a second 295x? Could you crossfire?

 

[CAaronD]

Holy crap, you actually bought it? Not shitting? 😵

 

[CAaronD]

Yeah, rich people ... xD

 

[Memhorder]

Kalijaga and Big Booty. You should throw up some Firestrike scores.

 

[Someone Somewhere]

Eh... I'm still not certain which would be better not taking pricing into account.

Saying one card is great doesn't really mean much - that would probably be the impression you'd get from both.

 

[SuperAdithya]

Titan Z is the best. My vote goes to Titan Z, & I am sure that Titan Z will win the GPU elections!

 

[TehCaucasianAsian]

Also the Titan Z is cooler and it it doesn't require a closed loop water cooler. Though if you're buying expensive cards like this your case should be able to support that kind of cooling.

The Titan Z has been tested to run over 80 Degrees Celsius, the Radeon card cannot go over 75 Degrees Celsius by default. I didn't realize that bigger numbers meant it ran cooler. That's new

 

[Eduello]

Also the Titan Z is cooler and it it doesn't require a closed loop water cooler. Though if you're buying expensive cards like this your case should be able to support that kind of cooling.

The Titan Z has been tested to run over 80 Degrees Celsius, the Radeon card cannot go over 75 Degrees Celsius by default. I didn't realize that bigger numbers meant it ran cooler. That's new

Oh crap, a closed loop water cooler beats a fan by 5 degrees guys. The quality of the Radeon card surely must be better!

I'm not sure who said this first (I'm fairly sure somebody did) since I'm too lazy to go through 5 pages of text, but considering that the R9 290X runs hotter than the Titan Black/GTX 780Ti (with the same cooler), and that the Titan Z is technically two underclocked Titan Blacks in SLI while the R9 295X2 is two overclocked R9 290X cards in CF, I would say those temps are pretty darn impressive.

 

[smeezekitty]

Shadow play is nice but still if you have a decent CPU it isn't necessary
PhysX doesn't matter to everyone
TXAA is ugly
And color preference is extremely subjective.

Desperate?

 

[RussK1]

Shadow play is nice but still if you have a decent CPU it isn't necessary
PhysX doesn't matter to everyone
TXAA is ugly
And color preference is extremely subjective.

Desperate?

I'm not into flame wars. Nice start though.

He's a pro at it.

Prices aside, I'd choose the nVidia card easily based on software alone. It gets to a point where fighting with drivers gets old. The time comes when one just wants to download, install and play their favorite games and programs.

Cuda is the main one for me... widely adopted and easy to use.