Raid 1 on K8N Neo4 Platinum(MS-7125) ???

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Just wondering which chipset i should connect my RAID to...................
Ive got 2 SATA drives which i want in mirroring array. The drive is to be
bootable with XP
The BIOS seems rather confusing for the NVIDIA chipset ....and there is the
Silicon Image chipset as well.
Any help regarding BIOS settings etc would be greatly appreciated
thanks Lee
 
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lee wrote:
> Just wondering which chipset i should connect my RAID to...................
> Ive got 2 SATA drives which i want in mirroring array. The drive is to be
> bootable with XP
> The BIOS seems rather confusing for the NVIDIA chipset ....and there is the
> Silicon Image chipset as well.
> Any help regarding BIOS settings etc would be greatly appreciated
> thanks Lee

The nVidia is faster, and supposedly easier to setup.

You need to decide which ports to plug your SATA drives into and enable
RAID on those ports. What happens next, I am unsure... presumably the
nVidia RAID controller BIOS allows configuration at this point.

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I tried to set up but had major hassles and board died while doing it....
Ive got another system ill try and setup tonite

"Ben Pope" <benpope81@_REMOVE_gmail.com> wrote in message
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> lee wrote:
> > Just wondering which chipset i should connect my RAID
to...................
> > Ive got 2 SATA drives which i want in mirroring array. The drive is to
be
> > bootable with XP
> > The BIOS seems rather confusing for the NVIDIA chipset ....and there is
the
> > Silicon Image chipset as well.
> > Any help regarding BIOS settings etc would be greatly appreciated
> > thanks Lee
>
> The nVidia is faster, and supposedly easier to setup.
>
> You need to decide which ports to plug your SATA drives into and enable
> RAID on those ports. What happens next, I am unsure... presumably the
> nVidia RAID controller BIOS allows configuration at this point.
>
> Ben
> --
> A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html
> Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the newsgroups.
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Dont forget with mirroring disks, one is the back up, set your disks up on
mobo, should be same size and make
use nvidia controller and make sure the bios is enabled for them, when
booting press F10 (i think) for raid utility
you will find the disks then make choice for striping or mirroring in your
case and make them bootable in the
utility aswell which is the last part, then exit, put Win XP disc as first
boot in bios not floppy, when windows
starts press F6 to install the sata drivers (should be on a floppy with
mobo, or download them for your board)
press S to intall both of them and windows will install etc etc the rest is
history Raid Mirror..... done for backup
purposes, hope this helps ya dude.... just done two raptors on sli gb 8np
mobo.... to day for friend :)))
he is very happy with new gb sli dua proc cpu 6600 gt............... faster
than a GF Ultra......


"lee" <mirai@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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>I tried to set up but had major hassles and board died while doing it....
> Ive got another system ill try and setup tonite
>
> "Ben Pope" <benpope81@_REMOVE_gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1114507532.093585faf5ea3e10e48f848d88955e55@teranews...
>> lee wrote:
>> > Just wondering which chipset i should connect my RAID
> to...................
>> > Ive got 2 SATA drives which i want in mirroring array. The drive is to
> be
>> > bootable with XP
>> > The BIOS seems rather confusing for the NVIDIA chipset ....and there is
> the
>> > Silicon Image chipset as well.
>> > Any help regarding BIOS settings etc would be greatly appreciated
>> > thanks Lee
>>
>> The nVidia is faster, and supposedly easier to setup.
>>
>> You need to decide which ports to plug your SATA drives into and enable
>> RAID on those ports. What happens next, I am unsure... presumably the
>> nVidia RAID controller BIOS allows configuration at this point.
>>
>> Ben
>> --
>> A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html
>> Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the newsgroups.
>> I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a String...
>
>
 
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Ive got the raid happening now.................BUT
was wondering if my installed system which was previosly installed on one of
hard drives before the raid was made is able to be made bootable????
At the moment ive tried various ways of installing into the hard drive but
whenever i create the array it looks at either the bare drive or
unpartitioned space on drive with system on it
Is it possible to get this drive seen in the raid somehow ???

"lee" <mirai@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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> Just wondering which chipset i should connect my RAID
to...................
> Ive got 2 SATA drives which i want in mirroring array. The drive is to be
> bootable with XP
> The BIOS seems rather confusing for the NVIDIA chipset ....and there is
the
> Silicon Image chipset as well.
> Any help regarding BIOS settings etc would be greatly appreciated
> thanks Lee
>
>
>
 
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You have to have the raid drivers installed on the one you want to
mirror,but it has to be installed at the beginning of the OS
installation. You will need to do a new install with the raid array
created and use both the raid driver and mass storage controller driver
at F6.
 
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lee wrote:
> Ive got the raid happening now.................BUT
> was wondering if my installed system which was previosly installed on one of
> hard drives before the raid was made is able to be made bootable????

How did you create the mirror? Did it leave the data intact and make a
copy to the other drive?

> At the moment ive tried various ways of installing into the hard drive but

What exactly are you installing "into the hard drive"? A boot manager?

I suspect you should install the boot loader after the RAID is setup,
although before should ok if you're cloning that drive to the blank one.

> whenever i create the array it looks at either the bare drive or
> unpartitioned space on drive with system on it

ou won;t be able to stick a boot loader into unpartitioned space, so I'
not sure what you mean.

> Is it possible to get this drive seen in the raid somehow ???

Which drive? The blank one, or the one you're cloning from?

Perhaps you could describe the system using names such as Drive1, Drive2
and describe your partition system and layout, which OS you're trying to
install, and any procedures you're following.

Ben
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Basically im wondering that if ive got a drive with XP installed on it which
was installed on a SATA drive and not in a RAID array.
Then is it possible to use that drive as the bootable drive in a RAID
mirroring Array?????????
If it is possible how do you do it?
thanks
"Ben Pope" <benpope81@_REMOVE_gmail.com> wrote in message
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> lee wrote:
> > Ive got the raid happening now.................BUT
> > was wondering if my installed system which was previosly installed on
one of
> > hard drives before the raid was made is able to be made bootable????
>
> How did you create the mirror? Did it leave the data intact and make a
> copy to the other drive?
>
> > At the moment ive tried various ways of installing into the hard drive
but
>
> What exactly are you installing "into the hard drive"? A boot manager?
>
> I suspect you should install the boot loader after the RAID is setup,
> although before should ok if you're cloning that drive to the blank one.
>
> > whenever i create the array it looks at either the bare drive or
> > unpartitioned space on drive with system on it
>
> ou won;t be able to stick a boot loader into unpartitioned space, so I'
> not sure what you mean.
>
> > Is it possible to get this drive seen in the raid somehow ???
>
> Which drive? The blank one, or the one you're cloning from?
>
> Perhaps you could describe the system using names such as Drive1, Drive2
> and describe your partition system and layout, which OS you're trying to
> install, and any procedures you're following.
>
> Ben
> --
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lee wrote:
> Basically im wondering that if ive got a drive with XP installed on it which
> was installed on a SATA drive and not in a RAID array.
> Then is it possible to use that drive as the bootable drive in a RAID
> mirroring Array?????????
> If it is possible how do you do it?
> thanks

You should be able to create the mirror and boot it.

That means that you may have to change your boot order.

There are two places that I potentially see this, either the boot order
of the hard drives priority.

Ben
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I tried changing the order but still no boot...........
I know it should be possible but at the moment i cant seem to make it happen
Ill give it another go shortly

"Ben Pope" <benpope81@_REMOVE_gmail.com> wrote in message
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> lee wrote:
> > Basically im wondering that if ive got a drive with XP installed on it
which
> > was installed on a SATA drive and not in a RAID array.
> > Then is it possible to use that drive as the bootable drive in a RAID
> > mirroring Array?????????
> > If it is possible how do you do it?
> > thanks
>
> You should be able to create the mirror and boot it.
>
> That means that you may have to change your boot order.
>
> There are two places that I potentially see this, either the boot order
> of the hard drives priority.
>
> Ben
> --
> A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html
> Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the newsgroups.
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G MAN wrote:
> You have to have the raid drivers installed on the one you want to
> mirror,but it has to be installed at the beginning of the OS
> installation. You will need to do a new install with the raid array
> created and use both the raid driver and mass storage controller driver
> at F6.

That sounds a bit excessive. Why would you need to reinstall your OS to
load a driver? Surely you can install the RAID driver, with the RAID
controller on (bt no RAID partitions), and then reboot, enable RAID,
build the mirror and boot the OS.

As far as I can tell, lee is having problems way before the OS is
loading, but he's being very cagey with actual details, so I can't
really tell.

Ben
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Gday everybody
:)
In reply to Ben im not having problems before the install..............
I can set up raid ok and get started on install........
Like i said before
"Basically im wondering that if ive got a drive with XP installed on it
which
was installed on a SATA drive and not in a RAID array.
Then is it possible to use that drive as the bootable drive in a RAID
mirroring Array?????????
If it is possible how do you do it?"
But from what Gman said then its not possible to bring a Bootable drive into
a raid array .
I did think it was possible but now im not so sure.
thaks Lee

"Ben Pope" <benpope81@_REMOVE_gmail.com> wrote in message
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> G MAN wrote:
> > You have to have the raid drivers installed on the one you want to
> > mirror,but it has to be installed at the beginning of the OS
> > installation. You will need to do a new install with the raid array
> > created and use both the raid driver and mass storage controller driver
> > at F6.
>
> That sounds a bit excessive. Why would you need to reinstall your OS to
> load a driver? Surely you can install the RAID driver, with the RAID
> controller on (bt no RAID partitions), and then reboot, enable RAID,
> build the mirror and boot the OS.
>
> As far as I can tell, lee is having problems way before the OS is
> loading, but he's being very cagey with actual details, so I can't
> really tell.
>
> Ben
> --
> A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html
> Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the newsgroups.
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lee wrote:
> Gday everybody
> :)
> In reply to Ben im not having problems before the
install..............
> I can set up raid ok and get started on install........
> Like i said before
> "Basically im wondering that if ive got a drive with XP installed on
it
> which
> was installed on a SATA drive and not in a RAID array.
> Then is it possible to use that drive as the bootable drive in a
RAID
> mirroring Array?????????
> If it is possible how do you do it?"
> But from what Gman said then its not possible to bring a Bootable
drive into
> a raid array .
> I did think it was possible but now im not so sure.
> thaks Lee
>
> "Ben Pope" <benpope81@_REMOVE_gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1114632256.f3fcbef3e97b0e2253863f9e600713cb@teranews...
> > G MAN wrote:
> > > You have to have the raid drivers installed on the one you want
to
> > > mirror,but it has to be installed at the beginning of the OS
> > > installation. You will need to do a new install with the raid
array
> > > created and use both the raid driver and mass storage controller
driver
> > > at F6.
> >
> > That sounds a bit excessive. Why would you need to reinstall your
OS to
> > load a driver? Surely you can install the RAID driver, with the
RAID
> > controller on (bt no RAID partitions), and then reboot, enable
RAID,
> > build the mirror and boot the OS.
> >
> > As far as I can tell, lee is having problems way before the OS is
> > loading, but he's being very cagey with actual details, so I can't
> > really tell.
> >
> > Ben
> > --
> > A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html
> > Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the
newsgroups.
> > I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a String...

To have a bootable raid array in XP you have to install the raid driver
at the beginning of the OS installation at F6
 
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Not only do you have to install the RAID driver at F6 but also the mass
storage contoller driver too with the Nvidia raid.
 
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i know that but thought it might be possible to do without but it seems No
Way
:)
"G MAN" <courseyauto@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> lee wrote:
> > Gday everybody
> > :)
> > In reply to Ben im not having problems before the
> install..............
> > I can set up raid ok and get started on install........
> > Like i said before
> > "Basically im wondering that if ive got a drive with XP installed on
> it
> > which
> > was installed on a SATA drive and not in a RAID array.
> > Then is it possible to use that drive as the bootable drive in a
> RAID
> > mirroring Array?????????
> > If it is possible how do you do it?"
> > But from what Gman said then its not possible to bring a Bootable
> drive into
> > a raid array .
> > I did think it was possible but now im not so sure.
> > thaks Lee
> >
> > "Ben Pope" <benpope81@_REMOVE_gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1114632256.f3fcbef3e97b0e2253863f9e600713cb@teranews...
> > > G MAN wrote:
> > > > You have to have the raid drivers installed on the one you want
> to
> > > > mirror,but it has to be installed at the beginning of the OS
> > > > installation. You will need to do a new install with the raid
> array
> > > > created and use both the raid driver and mass storage controller
> driver
> > > > at F6.
> > >
> > > That sounds a bit excessive. Why would you need to reinstall your
> OS to
> > > load a driver? Surely you can install the RAID driver, with the
> RAID
> > > controller on (bt no RAID partitions), and then reboot, enable
> RAID,
> > > build the mirror and boot the OS.
> > >
> > > As far as I can tell, lee is having problems way before the OS is
> > > loading, but he's being very cagey with actual details, so I can't
> > > really tell.
> > >
> > > Ben
> > > --
> > > A7N8X FAQ: www.ben.pope.name/a7n8x_faq.html
> > > Questions by email will likely be ignored, please use the
> newsgroups.
> > > I'm not just a number. To many, I'm known as a String...
>
> To have a bootable raid array in XP you have to install the raid driver
> at the beginning of the OS installation at F6
>
 
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no worries
its all installed now and working A1

"G MAN" <courseyauto@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Not only do you have to install the RAID driver at F6 but also the mass
> storage contoller driver too with the Nvidia raid.
>
 
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On Wed, 04 May 2005 16:59:21 GMT, "lee" <mirai@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

>no worries
>its all installed now and working A1
>
>"G MAN" <courseyauto@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:1115029879.050927.15820@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> Not only do you have to install the RAID driver at F6 but also the mass
>> storage contoller driver too with the Nvidia raid.
>>
>
Lee

Would you mind telling us what you needed to do? Did you have to
reinstall XP or did you find a way to add the raid drivers?

Thanks
Gollum