Question Random PC stutters/freezes

[User1990]

So I was playing just fine for months, but randomly freezes and stutters appeared out of nowhere.
PC would freeze and I needed to shutdown the PC by holding the button to turn it off then on again.

I found out my USB sound card was the culprit of the freezes, since it never happened again after I removed it.
I can't get rid of the stutters tho, I've formatted multiple times and cannot get anywhere near fixing it.
Why would it start stuttering out of nowhere ? Without touching any settings ?
My temps are fine.

CPU : RYZEN 5 7600X
MOBO : B650 AORUS ELITE AX
GPU : RTX 4060
RAM : DDR5 TRIDENTZ 6000mhz 32GB (2X16)
PSU : BE QUIET 750W PLATINUM
M2 : 980 PRO AND 980 BOTH 500GB

 

[Lutfij]

MOBO : B650 AORUS ELITE AX
BIOS version for your motherboard?

RAM : DDR5 TRIDENTZ 6000mhz 32GB (2X16)
Is AMD's E.X.P.O enabled in BIOS?

I've formatted multiple times and cannot get anywhere near fixing it.
Did you recreate the installer to rule out a corrupt installer? Did you reinstall the OS in an offline mode? As for your platform, you're advised to install all relevant drivers for your system in an elevated command, i.e, Right click installer>Run as Administrator soon after you've installed the OS in offline mode. One ore thing to note, you should only have the drive you wish to install the OS onto, connected to the motherboard, while all other drives are disconnected.

 

[User1990]

MOBO : B650 AORUS ELITE AX
BIOS version for your motherboard?

RAM : DDR5 TRIDENTZ 6000mhz 32GB (2X16)
Is AMD's E.X.P.O enabled in BIOS?

I've formatted multiple times and cannot get anywhere near fixing it.
Did you recreate the installer to rule out a corrupt installer? Did you reinstall the OS in an offline mode? As for your platform, you're advised to install all relevant drivers for your system in an elevated command, i.e, Right click installer>Run as Administrator soon after you've installed the OS in offline mode.

I'm on the f31 , should I try going on the latest even tho it's beta ?
Weird that it stutters still, why would it randomly require a bios update ?

EXPO is enabled yes.
I did recreate the installer each time yes.
I did try both offline and online reinstall.
I'm about to go back to w10 AGAIN, since w11 were a completely failure.

 

[User1990]

MOBO : B650 AORUS ELITE AX
BIOS version for your motherboard?

RAM : DDR5 TRIDENTZ 6000mhz 32GB (2X16)
Is AMD's E.X.P.O enabled in BIOS?

I've formatted multiple times and cannot get anywhere near fixing it.
Did you recreate the installer to rule out a corrupt installer? Did you reinstall the OS in an offline mode? As for your platform, you're advised to install all relevant drivers for your system in an elevated command, i.e, Right click installer>Run as Administrator soon after you've installed the OS in offline mode. One ore thing to note, you should only have the drive you wish to install the OS onto, connected to the motherboard, while all other drives are disconnected.

Still stuttering, I'm out of ideas.

 

[geofelt]

Stuttering is caused by a temporary lack of a critical resource. Usually cpu, but on occasion, insufficient ram.
What might have changed since all was well?
Perhaps a bad windows update.
Perhaps interference from a higher priority app. Discord, for example, or nvidia experience.

Perhaps a virus or malware?
Look in your installed program list for anything recent or unknown.
Consider using system restore to reset back to when all was well.

 

[User1990]

Stuttering is caused by a temporary lack of a critical resource. Usually cpu, but on occasion, insufficient ram.
What might have changed since all was well?
Perhaps a bad windows update.
Perhaps interference from a higher priority app. Discord, for example, or nvidia experience.

Perhaps a virus or malware?
Look in your installed program list for anything recent or unknown.
Consider using system restore to reset back to when all was well.

I can't use system restore because I've formatted since.
I suspected the windows update aswell, but can't say which one.

EDIT : As I mentioned on the first post, PC was freezing randomly and I had to shutdown via the power button when it happened, I solved it by removing my usb sound card. But stutters did not go away.

 

[User1990]

Stuttering is caused by a temporary lack of a critical resource. Usually cpu, but on occasion, insufficient ram.
What might have changed since all was well?
Perhaps a bad windows update.
Perhaps interference from a higher priority app. Discord, for example, or nvidia experience.

Perhaps a virus or malware?
Look in your installed program list for anything recent or unknown.
Consider using system restore to reset back to when all was well.

So disabling EXPO solves the stutter by 90%.
It was working just fine all this time, weird.
How should I go about manually OC it ?
I have the F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N

 

[geofelt]

Run memtest86+ with and without EXPO.
It boots from a usb stick and does not use windows.
You can download it here:

Memtest86+ | The Open-Source Memory Testing Tool

Memtest86+ is an advanced, free, open-source, stand-alone memory tester for 32- and 64-bit computers (UEFI & BIOS supported)

memtest.org

If you can run a full pass with NO errors, your ram should be ok.

Running several more passes will sometimes uncover an issue, but it takes more time.
Probably not worth it unless you really suspect a ram issue.

Some motherboards have an memtest option in the bios.

You should get ZERO errors.
If not, contact g.skil ram support.

 

[User1990]

Run memtest86+ with and without EXPO.
It boots from a usb stick and does not use windows.
You can download it here:

Memtest86+ | The Open-Source Memory Testing Tool

Memtest86+ is an advanced, free, open-source, stand-alone memory tester for 32- and 64-bit computers (UEFI & BIOS supported)

memtest.org

If you can run a full pass with NO errors, your ram should be ok.

Running several more passes will sometimes uncover an issue, but it takes more time.
Probably not worth it unless you really suspect a ram issue.

Some motherboards have an memtest option in the bios.

You should get ZERO errors.
If not, contact g.skil ram support.

I did the ram test a few days ago and I didn't get any errors.
Still the ram EXPO is what solved it.

Would trying to reduce the speed from 6000 to 5800-5600-5400 and re-test work ?
Will re-do the test when I go to sleep tonight either way.

 

[User1990]

So I will update just in case it helps someone in the future.
Seems like my 980 PRO M2 was faulty and usage was fluctuating like crazy even with nothing running, it would even go up to 100%.
Installed windows on my secondary m2 and everything is fine now.
Gonna grab a 990 pro after the RMA.