Archived from groups: alt.comp.hardware.overclocking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips (
More info?)
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:43:54 GMT, Rob Stow <rob.stow.nospam@shaw.ca> wrote:
>George Macdonald wrote:
>> On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:55:31 -0500, keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 02:42:19 -0500, George Macdonald wrote:
>>>
>>><snip all content>
>>>
>>>>>Richard Hopkins
>>>>>Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
>>>>>(replace .nospam with .com in reply address)
>>>>>
>>>>>The UK's leading technology reseller www.dabs.com
>>>>>Get the most out of your digital photos www.dabsxpose.com
>>>>
>>>>I'm not sure how other people feel about direct advertising in this
>>>>newsgroup but I'm sure there are a number of other people -- not me -- who
>>>>would like to benefit from the privilege if accorded. If it comes to a
>>>>question of all or none I'd think the choice would have to be the latter...
>>>>but maybe others can comment??
>>>
>>>
>>>I think the usual Usenet rules are to allow a short advert in the siggy.
>>
>>
>> DABS is probably the largest computer parts e-tailer in the U.K. I don't
>> think we need this... or expect NewEgg, Monarch, Dell<gawp>,
>> Overclockers.xxxx et.al. to follow.
>
>It appears to be generally accepted that people
>can use their sig file to /briefly/ promote businesses
>that the own or work for.
It's sorta moot here but sorry I don't see that for a large retail
enterprise, who might even be paying individuals (per hit ?) who do the
planting. How would you feel about someone touting the Home Shopping
Network with ads for some computer they sell? I suggest you find out a bit
about DABS.
>> I can't find a newsgroup charter and
>> the guidelines are: if you can't find a FAQ, don't do it.
>
>Police states work on "Everything is forbidden
>unless explicitly stated otherwise." Here in the
>"free" world it is supposed to be the other way
>around.
Shove your "police state" comment back where you pulled it from - the "free
world" has alternative means to restrict your behavior... they're called
lawyers and their elite ranks are the ones who make up the rules for *all*
of us. What do you not understand about "guidelines"? Go check out some
of the "FAQs" at the newsfeed services - that is precisely what I read at a
couple, about refraining if there was no stated policy for a group.
>In any case, the charter can be found at
>http://www.landfield.com/ftp/pub/usenet/control/comp/comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
>
>Once the headers are stripped out it is amazingly brief:
>
>Description: Discussion of processor, cache & memory chips for the ibm-pc.
>
>This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
>computer chips and technologies. "Chips" is a broad term to include memory
>chips (such as SIMMs) as well as new system chips from Intel (such as the
>Pentium) or other chip manufacturers (such as AMD). Topics may include chip
>pricing & availability, clock speeds (eg.- overclocking), and future chip
>releases.
>
>
>Charters in general are easy to find by using Yahoo to search for
> newsgroup charter "newsgroup.name.goes.here"
And the FAQ can also be found at www.faqs.org:
"Q) 1.3 Is it ok to (sell/buy/job-offer/advertise) things here?
No, none of the above fit within the charter of the
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.* hierarchy, therefore such posts are
considered unacceptable. For buying/selling things, use groups with
the words 'wanted' or 'forsale', and for job offers, use groups with
the words 'jobs'. All of these can be found in the misc.* hierarchy.
For commercial advertisements, use only the biz.* hierarchy as per the
guidelines of USENET. (refer to the news.* groups for more
information)."
Now whether the Usenet netiquette allowance for sig "adverts" overrides the
above, is up for discussion - the "How To" articles on sig.ads particularly
suggest just pointing people to a Web site, without any hype.... hardly
seems to fit the bill exactly here.
Rgds, George Macdonald