Report: Intel Stopping Development on MeeGo

[JMcEntegart]

Is Intel losing faith in Meego?

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[Wish I Was Wealthy]

I knew that this would happen,even though Nokia has a good share of the mobile phone market.

 

[Wish I Was Wealthy]

Nokia's technology just ain't what most people want for the future. Anyway there is always a little give & take. While intel thought that it was giving most of the effort,while Nokia just wanted certain technology from Intel.

 

[scrumworks]

Wrong, Intel was not the right partner for Nokia. Intel was constantly braking the development, that's a fact.

 

[Archean]

Intel is not a software 'centric' company, hence, there were not only issues on Intel side but Nokia's own house with regard to their development of Symbian was in shambles, i.e. why both of these got kick in the ***. There was pretty good article about what happened at Nokia few months ago on The Register "For Want of Nail, The Kingdom was Lost'.

@Wish
Hardware wise, Nokia's quality is/was far superior to what samsung and likes offers, I am talking about high end E series phones, where they suffered was the software side of things. But that is just my opinion.

 

[Wish I Was Wealthy]

Nokia is only into making cheap mobile phones & that is all they'll ever do!

 

[Guest]

Can you back up your sources instead of speculating? Who said Intel isnt working on meego? because i believe they still are.

 

[Archean]

I very much doubt it you ever seen an E series phone, having used many of them, they have much better quality IMO. Even the E71 feels much more solid and sturdy, when I compare it to my Samsung Galaxy S, which frankly there is no other way of saying it ..... feels very cheap (mostly because of the thin plastic material they used).

 

[malphas]

Nokia's build quality easily surpasses Samsung, HTC, ZTE, Huawei, etc. That's why ancient bricks like refurbished 3210's are still in high demand. Overall strategy and response to the introduction of the iPhone, and the software side of things has been a disaster though.

 

[g-thor]

I can't help but wonder if the world really needs yet another Linux variant, especially one that is tied to a company that isn't known for its open source attitude (in spite of what they say). Why didn't they work with an established Linux distro to develop what is needed. That way there is instant credibility and access to an interested audience? There are distros out there that could serve.

 

[waethorn]

Intel has an absolute shit history sticking with side projects that rely on partners. They just have no clout outside of the x86-core market.

All of their platform branding has been scrapped, except for vPro (and it's not getting the respect it deserves). VBI was a flop, and Spring Peak is still trudging on in the quicksand (yes, seriously - they're still pushing Core 2 processors for partners to build systems from). In fact, they're now telling system builders to forget about building laptops and to buy them from bigger companies instead because Intel can't rangle the Channel well enough. Viiv is dead. UEFI has yet to make a splash in the server market (they are still using EFI 1.1 on most of their new boards, despite Windows not supporting it). They already sold off their IA-64 and previous ARM wings. Centrino is gone because they couldn't offer partners any real benefit to using Intel wireless cards. Larrabee didn't go anywhere. The Skulltrail dual-proc platform got fragged. I could go on for ages... MeeGo is just the next thing to get the axe.

And then you look at their core failures: Sandy Bridge is a DX10 part, the chipset was faulty from the get go, and Ivy Bridge is going to miss the schedule because tri-gate isn't working out like they hoped. I mean, WTF!?!

I don't know any tech manufacturer that has more flops than Intel. There is ONE thing, and ONE THING ONLY (IMO) that they are good at: engineering fast x86 cores. Can anybody honestly say that they're good at anything else? Cuz I can't come up with anything.

 

[bmouring]

YAUF (Yet Another Unsurprised Fan) here, I dislike that there's now no platform with easy access to the underpinnings/nerd knobs (Maemo, Meego, and to a degree, WebOS).

Sure, you can install busybox and a terminal emulator on Android after rooting, and I suppose there's a lesser level of access/dinking with iOS devices, but neither offer the level of access nor does the device come in a state where I can just start playing around with it.

I will miss my N900 when it finally dies

 

[bmouring]

...Why didn't they work with an established Linux distro to develop what is needed. That way there is instant credibility and access to an interested audience? There are distros out there that could serve.

The basic issue is that there likely would have been some desire to include closed bits in the distribution (although that is somewhat counter to Intel's current position for their network and graphics chipsets, I am just extremely skeptical of a company that didn't start in FOSS releasing an entire distribution without some closed bits).

Most of the major distributions would balk at such a request (Debian and Fedora staunchly, Ubuntu a little less so). They could work with a smaller distro's team (who is open to the idea) or roll their own.

 

[waethorn]

BTW: Intel lost out on doing something awesome with their previous platform that I just realized after typing the last statement:

Working with ARM to get IA-64 instructions into the core.

ARM needs help with 64-bit support and IA-64 was already partly RISC-based from Intel's dealings with HP early on with their PA-RISC processors which were the precursors to Itanium.

Imagine if we had ARM processors now, built on EPIC technology....

Now it seems that ARM's mentor into the 64-bit world will be AMD.

 

[nadavp3]

[citation][nom]Waethorn[/nom]BTW: Intel lost out on doing something awesome with their previous platform that I just realized after typing the last statement:Working with ARM to get IA-64 instructions into the core.ARM needs help with 64-bit support and IA-64 was already partly RISC-based from Intel's dealings with HP early on with their PA-RISC processors which were the precursors to Itanium.Imagine if we had ARM processors now, built on EPIC technology.... Now it seems that ARM's mentor into the 64-bit world will be AMD.[/citation]

Dude you got a blog or something?

 

[eddieroolz]

Personally I don't have much faith that Intel can successfully develop a capable piece of software. Their graphics drivers have been terrible in almost all respects.

 

[Guest]

It would've been better to partner with an established Linux distro, or even bought one, as Google did with Android.

Of course, Intel has zero ability to compete in any market that they can't sue their competitors out of existance. Let's have a look, shall we:

x86 CPUs: They hold perhaps a 10-20% performance advantage over their only real competitor, despite 100x the R&D money. They also maintain licensing rights over x86, which means they can decide not to let companies compete with them at all.

GPUs: dismal failure, and sadly, they probably spend more on R&D than DAAMIT.

HPC: They are a joke.

Server NICs: Surprisingly good for the money, must be a completely separate team than the above.

Non-x86 architectures: Epic fail, from ARM to the Itanic.

Software: Massive fail. They are the most open about Linux drivers, unfortunately, they are not stable, and the performance sucks anyways.

 

[Wish I Was Wealthy]

I'm glad it happened,now they can focus on other important issues.

 

[liveonc]

Would've been a cute recipe for destruction made in Hell's Kitchen to have a NokiaWintel MeeGo + Windows Mobile 7 Atom Dual Boot Smartphone ;-)

 

[liveonc]

Would've been a cute recipe for destruction made in Hell's Kitchen to have a NokiaWintel MeeGo + Windows Mobile 7 Atom Dual Boot Smartphone ;-)

 

[Wish I Was Wealthy]

Well good news does come in quickly thanks to Jane McEntegart. Thanks to you we all can see the end to this demolition derby known as MeeGo.

 

[Archean]

I think this news needs to be updated now, as Intel now is saying that they are committed to MeeGo.

 

[Wish I Was Wealthy]

I ain't seen this revival of MeeGo yet Archean. I thought that they had enough of investing in this demolition derby,called MeeGo.

 

[belardo]

With phone technology changing so fast.... this is not a surprise. From what I've seen, it looks pretty good. But the public is only willing to deal with 3, maybe 4 operating systems. With MS and blackberry struggling for #3 and HP's WebOS going down in flames... where does that put MeeGo? #4, #6?

 

[Archean]

http://www.techspot.com/news/45355-intel-says-its-still-committed-to-meego.html

Well have a look at this article, may be it is a temporary stop in development of MeeGo.