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not just that
a lot of people just use there computer for the internet and they have no idea what version of windows they are running
a few of my family members have pre vista laptops. they wont bother upgrading they will just wait till laptop dies then buy a new modern one
a lot of people just use there computer for the internet and they have no idea what version of windows they are running
a few of my family members have pre vista laptops. they wont bother upgrading they will just wait till laptop dies then buy a new modern one
hakesterman
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I dumped XP years ago, it is very basic and is alot harder to move around than in Windows 7. Gameing
is also much better in windows 7 and awhole lot less crashes in Windows 7. I am getting close to celebrating 5 years of XP Free on my system.
is also much better in windows 7 and awhole lot less crashes in Windows 7. I am getting close to celebrating 5 years of XP Free on my system.
K2N hater
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Windows 7 looks a lot better than xp and that's it. Improvements such as DX11, IE9 and security warnings could have been implemented to xp would Microsoft want it. While I find Win7 to be slow and resource-hungry I can deal with it for my home PC but I'm sure to carry on with xp at work.
upgrade_1977
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I stopped using XP when I upgraded my graphics cards to DX11. I actually loved xp, tried vista, but had so many problems with it I went back to xp. Ever since I upgraded to windows 7 i've been loving it. No BSOD's or random crash's, no compatibility issues, runs fine after having it installed over a year, love windows 7.
On a side note, my wife's four year old laptop came with vista, and it ran horrible, even after a fresh factory reinstall (wich took 3 hours) it still ran like crap. Decided to downgrade it to XP, but, toshiba didn't have any xp drivers, so decided to give windows 7 a try, even though I didn't think it would work. It installed in 1/2 hour, and all drivers (network, graphics, ect.) except for keyboard shorcuts were already installed with windows. Easiest install I ever did. Not only that, but it runs flawlessly. Honestly, it runs almost as good as my main pc. Not sure if it's because of all the crapware or if it was vista, but i'll never hesitate recommending upgrading to windows 7 again. Hopefully ill be able to upgrade it to windows 8 as easily when it finally arrives.
On a side note, my wife's four year old laptop came with vista, and it ran horrible, even after a fresh factory reinstall (wich took 3 hours) it still ran like crap. Decided to downgrade it to XP, but, toshiba didn't have any xp drivers, so decided to give windows 7 a try, even though I didn't think it would work. It installed in 1/2 hour, and all drivers (network, graphics, ect.) except for keyboard shorcuts were already installed with windows. Easiest install I ever did. Not only that, but it runs flawlessly. Honestly, it runs almost as good as my main pc. Not sure if it's because of all the crapware or if it was vista, but i'll never hesitate recommending upgrading to windows 7 again. Hopefully ill be able to upgrade it to windows 8 as easily when it finally arrives.
Well, yeah. Because it's damn useful, that's why!
I'm using Arch Linux as my main OS, tricked out, but at the same time I also use TinyXP/MicroXP + NTFS compression in VirtualBox:
1 GB .vdi containers for COMPLETELY sandboxing and testing small applications, including potentially dangerous applications like keygens and such. I even have 2 containers set up for Kaspersky and NOD32, because I can and because you can't keep two antivirus programs running simultaneously (well, maybe for some of them you can but they usually give you a big fat WARNING first). This way I can scan with both at the same time. Because I can.
2 GB container for iTunes - your ball and chain if you own an Apple product...
10 GB container for Office 2010 SP1 (Word, Excel, PowerPoint) + Adobe CS5.5 (not the entire suite, obviously... just Adobe Acrobat, Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign. I'm trying to learn these as best as I can). And I still have ~3 GB to spare for content and stuff! Had I used Windows 7 for this virtual machine it would've probably cost me 20-25 GB, more than twice for even SLOWER performance. No, thank you!
PS: In case you're wondering I'm using modest hardware: cheapest dual core AM3 CPU and 2 GB RAM. Runs like a beast! You may downvote this all you want but XP is still the king in my eyes.
I'm using Arch Linux as my main OS, tricked out, but at the same time I also use TinyXP/MicroXP + NTFS compression in VirtualBox:
1 GB .vdi containers for COMPLETELY sandboxing and testing small applications, including potentially dangerous applications like keygens and such. I even have 2 containers set up for Kaspersky and NOD32, because I can and because you can't keep two antivirus programs running simultaneously (well, maybe for some of them you can but they usually give you a big fat WARNING first). This way I can scan with both at the same time. Because I can.
2 GB container for iTunes - your ball and chain if you own an Apple product...
10 GB container for Office 2010 SP1 (Word, Excel, PowerPoint) + Adobe CS5.5 (not the entire suite, obviously... just Adobe Acrobat, Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign. I'm trying to learn these as best as I can). And I still have ~3 GB to spare for content and stuff! Had I used Windows 7 for this virtual machine it would've probably cost me 20-25 GB, more than twice for even SLOWER performance. No, thank you!
PS: In case you're wondering I'm using modest hardware: cheapest dual core AM3 CPU and 2 GB RAM. Runs like a beast! You may downvote this all you want but XP is still the king in my eyes.
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Well, 75% (from what i've seen) of home consumers in india run a pirated Windows XP Pro copy on their desktops (since most laptops have it pre-installed), and since almost everyone who has an x86 machine here has a desktop. True, pre-built systems have genuine copies, but some how the "computer guy" always manages to get a pirated copy into a system.
So what? Well, problem is that Win 7 HP is too damn expensive for most people, when they could just get it free. MS sells it for $130 approx, while the street price is about $120. Very few people know/are used to Ubuntu, so it's not very popular. Schools also act like there's no other OS in the market.
If MS sold Win 7 HP for $35-65 here [like Apple sells Lion in the US (don't know what they do here)], they'd make huge profits. Win 7 adoption numbers would rise by a few million. Same goes for Office Home and Student Ed.
But no, they'll just keep trying to be all cool.
So what? Well, problem is that Win 7 HP is too damn expensive for most people, when they could just get it free. MS sells it for $130 approx, while the street price is about $120. Very few people know/are used to Ubuntu, so it's not very popular. Schools also act like there's no other OS in the market.
If MS sold Win 7 HP for $35-65 here [like Apple sells Lion in the US (don't know what they do here)], they'd make huge profits. Win 7 adoption numbers would rise by a few million. Same goes for Office Home and Student Ed.
But no, they'll just keep trying to be all cool.
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I work in the corp office of one of the largest qsr chains in the world. We still use XP. The time and cost it would take to rebuild or systems and replace our desktops is just to great. Every new employee gets a new win7 box so we ought to be fully win 7 in about 10 years.
[citation][nom]shanky887614[/nom]not just thata lot of people just use there computer for the internet and they have no idea what version of windows they are runninga few of my family members have pre vista laptops. they wont bother upgrading they will just wait till laptop dies then buy a new modern one[/citation]
This. I know a hospital (that shall rename unnamed) that still used Windows 2000 or NT 4.0 computers until 2011 summer when they replaced a handful of computers with W7.
I also know some people who see computers as one equipment instead of dozens of equipments in varying sizes and shapes packed together. They will only buy a new computer if the old one becomes too much of a pain to fix.
This. I know a hospital (that shall rename unnamed) that still used Windows 2000 or NT 4.0 computers until 2011 summer when they replaced a handful of computers with W7.
I also know some people who see computers as one equipment instead of dozens of equipments in varying sizes and shapes packed together. They will only buy a new computer if the old one becomes too much of a pain to fix.
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[citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]Understood, there will always be programs that get lost as the OS moves along, I have an old DOS game that will not work for love nor money even with DOSbox, in the end I have partitioned one of my hard drive to have Wndows 95, 2000 Pro and XP Home, then which I switch on I choose which OS to boot and run my older games/programs etc...But to choose not to have Windows 7, or 8 when it arrives will also deny users access to software that is currently released, IE9 being a case in point but not a very good example...So instead of moaning about not being able to run old software, just have a multi-OS system and you can always go forwards and lose nothing from the past.[/citation]
True, but Win7 virtual machines means none of that is necessary (multi OS booting). I have a DOS/WinXP virtual machine on my Win7 unit and can copy it around to move it to other Win7 systems.
Problem solved. I think I had to thumb down almost every post in this comments area so far.
So much ridiculous comments on stuff like "I dont want to move to Win7, blah blah blah, it is bloated, different, and whaaaaaa". Come on people. Half of the complaints were actually just changes in the OS, that make it different than XP, but still existed like file sizes in Explorer, see the folder layout differently, and how to run a legacy application. All things Win7 does, but people arent bothering to figure it out. Yeah, a lot changed, but most of it was necessary for reasons many people cant understand. The audio stack, network stack, file structure, explorer in general, tabbed browsing, IE9 accelerations, the list goes on and on. Fact of the matter is Win7 is NOT Vista and isnt bogged down like most people think. I deploy new machines in our large company and never had heard a complaint about the upgrade to Win7 from XP. It looks better, it handles better, it blue screens almost never, and can do everything XP did and if it doesnt, you can run things in XP within 7 to the point that the old accounting applications work fine in XP mode. OH NOES, XP MODE ISNT INSTALLED by default and I cant see it. Yeah, okay, you fail at computers or you bought Win 7 Home/Starter. Thats okay, in place upgrade to Pro. Done... So much whining about stuff they dont know anything about.
True, but Win7 virtual machines means none of that is necessary (multi OS booting). I have a DOS/WinXP virtual machine on my Win7 unit and can copy it around to move it to other Win7 systems.
Problem solved. I think I had to thumb down almost every post in this comments area so far.
So much ridiculous comments on stuff like "I dont want to move to Win7, blah blah blah, it is bloated, different, and whaaaaaa". Come on people. Half of the complaints were actually just changes in the OS, that make it different than XP, but still existed like file sizes in Explorer, see the folder layout differently, and how to run a legacy application. All things Win7 does, but people arent bothering to figure it out. Yeah, a lot changed, but most of it was necessary for reasons many people cant understand. The audio stack, network stack, file structure, explorer in general, tabbed browsing, IE9 accelerations, the list goes on and on. Fact of the matter is Win7 is NOT Vista and isnt bogged down like most people think. I deploy new machines in our large company and never had heard a complaint about the upgrade to Win7 from XP. It looks better, it handles better, it blue screens almost never, and can do everything XP did and if it doesnt, you can run things in XP within 7 to the point that the old accounting applications work fine in XP mode. OH NOES, XP MODE ISNT INSTALLED by default and I cant see it. Yeah, okay, you fail at computers or you bought Win 7 Home/Starter. Thats okay, in place upgrade to Pro. Done... So much whining about stuff they dont know anything about.
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[citation][nom]upgrade_1977[/nom]I stopped using XP when I upgraded my graphics cards to DX11. I actually loved xp, tried vista, but had so many problems with it I went back to xp. Ever since I upgraded to windows 7 i've been loving it. No BSOD's or random crash's, no compatibility issues, runs fine after having it installed over a year, love windows 7. On a side note, my wife's four year old laptop came with vista, and it ran horrible, even after a fresh factory reinstall (wich took 3 hours) it still ran like crap. Decided to downgrade it to XP, but, toshiba didn't have any xp drivers, so decided to give windows 7 a try, even though I didn't think it would work. It installed in 1/2 hour, and all drivers (network, graphics, ect.) except for keyboard shorcuts were already installed with windows. Easiest install I ever did. Not only that, but it runs flawlessly. Honestly, it runs almost as good as my main pc. Not sure if it's because of all the crapware or if it was vista, but i'll never hesitate recommending upgrading to windows 7 again. Hopefully ill be able to upgrade it to windows 8 as easily when it finally arrives.[/citation]
It was probably crapware, bad drivers, or RTM (not SP1) Vista. Vista can work great, but OEMs love to screw up installations.
It was probably crapware, bad drivers, or RTM (not SP1) Vista. Vista can work great, but OEMs love to screw up installations.
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[citation][nom]GreaseMonkey_62[/nom]Windows 7 was also released during a recession, which is still being felt. XP still does a good job and runs the software they need it to. Many people and companies I'm sure are sticking to what works and has been paid for rather than shell out the dough for a new OS.[/citation]
...and training.
...and training.
[citation][nom]mickey21[/nom]OH NOES, XP MODE ISNT INSTALLED by default and I cant see it. Yeah, okay, you fail at computers or you bought Win 7 Home/Starter. Thats okay, in place upgrade to Pro. Done... So much whining about stuff they dont know anything about.[/citation]
"XP MODE" is a virtual machine and a sucky one at that. Microsoft recommends ANOTHER 16 GB just for this! Wut?? Not to mention the price difference ($200 vs $120). Gimmie a break...
[citation][nom]soldier37[/nom]2 x SSDs and 4 TB of storage Windows 7 boots in about 8 seconds and never looked back once. Xp was great for its time but its 2012 people move on. If you cant afford it then you shouldnt have a PC imo.[/citation]
If I can't afford it I shouldn't be using a PC? Facepalm.
Loading TinyXP from a saved state takes 5 seconds and saving it takes 3. Using VirtualBox. On Linux. And from a HDD.
I knew my comment was gonna get down voted. This one too (probably). No matter. Hatters gonna hate.
"XP MODE" is a virtual machine and a sucky one at that. Microsoft recommends ANOTHER 16 GB just for this! Wut?? Not to mention the price difference ($200 vs $120). Gimmie a break...
[citation][nom]soldier37[/nom]2 x SSDs and 4 TB of storage Windows 7 boots in about 8 seconds and never looked back once. Xp was great for its time but its 2012 people move on. If you cant afford it then you shouldnt have a PC imo.[/citation]
If I can't afford it I shouldn't be using a PC? Facepalm.
Loading TinyXP from a saved state takes 5 seconds and saving it takes 3. Using VirtualBox. On Linux. And from a HDD.
I knew my comment was gonna get down voted. This one too (probably). No matter. Hatters gonna hate.
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[citation][nom]mickey21[/nom]True, but Win7 virtual machines means none of that is necessary (multi OS booting). I have a DOS/WinXP virtual machine on my Win7 unit and can copy it around to move it to other Win7 systems. Problem solved. I think I had to thumb down almost every post in this comments area so far[/citation]
Tried that and on a couple of specific DOS games that I really liked it didn't work, something to do with the way the VM doesn't install the GFX drivers properly, 99% of the stuff works perfect in VM but that 1% was the one I most wanted. Suck to have to do muti-boot when I could be doing VM, but my weakness for old DOS games forced me to extremes
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When Windows 8 comes around I may just eBay some 10 year old PC parts like an Athlon XP, DDR1, GeForce3, Windows 95 and use it as a dedicated standalone DOS games machine, perhaps retrofit it into the shell of an old arcade machine, a cool DIY project
Tried that and on a couple of specific DOS games that I really liked it didn't work, something to do with the way the VM doesn't install the GFX drivers properly, 99% of the stuff works perfect in VM but that 1% was the one I most wanted. Suck to have to do muti-boot when I could be doing VM, but my weakness for old DOS games forced me to extremes
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When Windows 8 comes around I may just eBay some 10 year old PC parts like an Athlon XP, DDR1, GeForce3, Windows 95 and use it as a dedicated standalone DOS games machine, perhaps retrofit it into the shell of an old arcade machine, a cool DIY project
belardo
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Win7 is not perfect. I have issues with some things which others have posted. Lack of info on folders, Explorer a little bit dumber when it comes to drag and drop (I want to copy the file, not open it), taking seconds to minutes to THINK whatever its doing with a folder.
Other than that, Win7 smokes XP. It memory usage is a bit higher (nothing like vista) its performance is smooth and its far more reliable for notebooks than XP ever will be. Such as the poster who installed Win7 on his wife's vista notebook.
Other than that, Win7 smokes XP. It memory usage is a bit higher (nothing like vista) its performance is smooth and its far more reliable for notebooks than XP ever will be. Such as the poster who installed Win7 on his wife's vista notebook.
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I use Windows 7 on both of my machines, but then again both aren't more than 2 years old. I still have an XP machine in the house though. It only has a Pentium 4 CPU, 1GB RAM, and an ati 8500 gpu, and I doubt it'll run Windows 7 well, so I'm keeping it on XP. It's good enough for surfing the 'net anyway.
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XP is a dinosaur. When Vista first came out it was laggy. But after SP1, that was fixed. Windows 7 is just plain good. I know it's not stylish to say something good about MS, but I'm doing it anyway. If Win7 is running slow on your computer, something's wrong (and it's not the OS). But if you want to live in the dark ages (while still calling yourself techy) that's your business.
[citation][nom]dspider[/nom]"XP MODE" is a virtual machine and a sucky one at that. Microsoft recommends ANOTHER 16 GB just for this![/citation]
Oh whoa. I'd love a link to a source if you've got one. Sounds pretty insane!
I have a few XP Mode VM's running on PC's with 4GB of RAM with no issues. (Sure, not as much room to move as a machine with 8GB - but still runs fine.)
Oh whoa. I'd love a link to a source if you've got one. Sounds pretty insane!
I have a few XP Mode VM's running on PC's with 4GB of RAM with no issues. (Sure, not as much room to move as a machine with 8GB - but still runs fine.)
[citation][nom]adamboy64[/nom]Oh whoa. I'd love a link to a source if you've got one. Sounds pretty insane!I have a few XP Mode VM's running on PC's with 4GB of RAM with no issues. (Sure, not as much room to move as a machine with 8GB - but still runs fine.)[/citation]
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/system-requirements
"16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)"
"Windows XP Mode requires an additional 1 GB of RAM and an additional 15 GB of available hard disk space."
15 GB. I was wrong.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/system-requirements
"16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)"
"Windows XP Mode requires an additional 1 GB of RAM and an additional 15 GB of available hard disk space."
15 GB. I was wrong.
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