Question Restart loop when setting ram above 3200Mhz

[TashaD]

Hello! Likely this problem is stemming from me missing something simple in my overclocking homework but I haven't found it, so thanks in advance if you can help!

I previously had 16gb - 2666Mhz ram in my pc and just upgraded to 32gb - 3600Mhz. I checked that everything was compatible with 3600 and as far as I could tell it was. But the highest I can set the memory frequency to (Via D.O.C.P) is 3200 before it just goes on a restart loop. I had an old version of the BIOS so I thought maybe an update would help but that didn't resolve the issue either. I'm grateful for any suggestions

Patriot Viper Steel 2x16GB DDR4-3600
Asus Prime X570-P Mobo
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6Ghz 8-Core
Asus STRIX Geforce GTX 1080 Ti 11gb
Corsair AX760 ATX PSU

 

[boju]

Cpu -> 1, 2, 3, 4 -> edge of motherboard. Numbers are ram slots.

Which ram slots are you using?

 

[KingLoki]

Do you have the ram in the correct slots on the mobo? A2/B2?
Also have you tried enabling XMP in the bios for the memory?

 

[KingLoki]

Also if you are manually setting a faster ram speed, you will most likely need to loosen the timings as well. Sometimes the gain from 3200 to 3600 is partly reduced by looser timings, so it can at times be non-productive.

 

[Misgar]

I checked that everything was compatible with 3600 and as far as I could tell it was. But the highest I can set the memory frequency to (Via D.O.C.P) is 3200 before it just goes on a restart loop.

CPU-world.com shows the 3700X is specified for operation up to DDR4-3200, so you may have to do a little work to get it to run at 3600MT/s.

https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Zen/AMD-Ryzen 7 3700X.html

Integrated peripherals / components
Memory controller	Memory channels (total): 2 Supported memory: DDR4-3200

Just because you bought fast RAM and the motherboard supports even faster XMP speeds, it doesn't mean your CPU is going to "play ball". That's the Silicon lottery.

As @KingLoki suggested, you should consider loosening the timings (after selecting an XMP speed faster than 3200MT/s).

This review implies your RAM's XMP primary timings will be 20-26-26-46 at 3600MT/s and 1.35V:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/patriot-viper-steel-rgb-ddr4-3600-c20-2x16gb-review
Enabling the XMP profile on the memory modules will get them to DDR4-3600 at 20-26-26-46. The DRAM voltage required for DDR4-3600 is 1.35V.

Try relaxing CL/CAS on both DIMMs from 20 (default) to 21 or 22 clock cycles. Save BIOS and reboot.

Sometimes the gain from 3200 to 3600 is partly reduced by looser timings, so it can at times be non-productive.

As @KingLoki says, configuring looser timings to obtain stability a higher speeds, may not give you any real performance gain.

 

[beyondlogic]

Hello! Likely this problem is stemming from me missing something simple in my overclocking homework but I haven't found it, so thanks in advance if you can help!

I previously had 16gb - 2666Mhz ram in my pc and just upgraded to 32gb - 3600Mhz. I checked that everything was compatible with 3600 and as far as I could tell it was. But the highest I can set the memory frequency to (Via D.O.C.P) is 3200 before it just goes on a restart loop. I had an old version of the BIOS so I thought maybe an update would help but that didn't resolve the issue either. I'm grateful for any suggestions

Patriot Viper Steel 2x16GB DDR4-3600
Asus Prime X570-P Mobo
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6Ghz 8-Core
Asus STRIX Geforce GTX 1080 Ti 11gb
Corsair AX760 ATX PSU

3200 is officially supported on 3700x

Some will run at 3600 but will run on inferior cl18 Vs 16

If it's running on cl16 at 3200 try creeping it up to 3300 then then 3400 then 3500 you may be able to get it closer to 3600 just not quite 3600.

I got one of my chips to 3500 before it stopped short.

Keep the timings same just slowly go a little bit higher then 3200 see where it fails to post.

I would try 3400 see if it posts.

 

[KingLoki]

Sometimes they need a bit more voltage as well when pushing them to their ceiling. You can definayely het a bit more out of them at times with timing adjustments. Some just won't budge without looser timings. Give @beyondlogic suggestions a try though. Hopefully get there.

 

[beyondlogic]

Sometimes they need a bit more voltage as well when pushing them to their ceiling. You can definayely het a bit more out of them at times with timing adjustments. Some just won't budge without looser timings. Give @beyondlogic suggestions a try though. Hopefully get there.

I find its usually the board vendors more then the chip.

I have a 2600 that worked in a MSI at 2666mhz then 2933mhz in a asrock then worked at 3600mhz in a gigabyte. No major changes apart from the board.

And yes sometimes more voltage is required but that comes with some risks and research.