RIDICULOUS Problem? 7800GS too cool temperature issue

[stevejason]

I have the same card. Yesterday it ran fine while I played Oblivion, temps 42-44. Today I decided to try COD2. The game adjusted its settings for the new card and off I went. Horrible choppiness and slowdown. I reduced the settings, but it didn't help. Went back to Oblivion, with the same results. Checked the temps and the card was running at 37.
About that time I recalled reading a forum post about the "Cold Bug". Using Rivatune I cut back the speed of my fans. Over 40, it ran fine. Go figure. :?
Contacted BFG tech support about the problem. They replied that they were very sorry but no drivers or bios resolve the issues. 🙁

 

[SynCroNiz3]

the tech isnt retarted some 7800gs's have the problem called the cold bug where if its too cold it wont perform as good

 

[dave86]

Dose any one know wear I can get a CPU warmer from I see you have made your GPU run faster by heating it up so that means if you heat up your CPU it will run faster so I have currently got 5 bar heaters around my computer I expect to get a good result 4x the speed

 

[Dade_0182]

LMAO

 

[quantumsheep]

Dose any one know wear I can get a CPU warmer from I see you have made your GPU run faster by heating it up so that means if you heat up your CPU it will run faster so I have currently got 5 bar heaters around my computer I expect to get a good result 4x the speed

Are you being serious or having a laugh?

 

[CompTIA_Rep]

no... hes serious. I plan on trying it to since, after reading this thread, it makes perfect sense.

 

[quantumsheep]

The logic still escapes me 😛 😛 😛 😛

 

[CompTIA_Rep]

then read the thread lol.

 

[dean7]

I have the same card. Yesterday it ran fine while I played Oblivion, temps 42-44. Today I decided to try COD2. The game adjusted its settings for the new card and off I went. Horrible choppiness and slowdown. I reduced the settings, but it didn't help. Went back to Oblivion, with the same results. Checked the temps and the card was running at 37.
About that time I recalled reading a forum post about the "Cold Bug". Using Rivatune I cut back the speed of my fans. Over 40, it ran fine. Go figure. :?
Contacted BFG tech support about the problem. They replied that they were very sorry but no drivers or bios resolve the issues. 🙁

Why don't you just OC your card to raise the temps? 😀

 

[CompTIA_Rep]

I dont think that was mentioned.... but good idea. How could a forum full of overclockers forget to suggest that.



:trophy: Oversight specialist.

 

[stevejason]

🙁[/quote]
Why don't you just OC your card to raise the temps? 😀[/quote]

It's overclocked to 470/1475. All the temps stay below 40C until I've been playing a game for a few minutes.
This isn't an earth-shattering problem, just a minor annoyance. I'm sure once warmer months arrive, the problem will disappear. Otherwise it is a nice card for my aging system.

 

[MarkG]

Why don't you just OC your card to raise the temps?

Because the whole problem is that either the hardware, driver or BIOS is _under_clocking the card when it gets too cold. It's ignoring any clock settings the user made.

If I remember correctly, blasting the card with hot air from my girlfriend's hairdryer did make it go into 'fast mode' though.

 

[Dade_0182]

Just don't melt it. I would hate to see a card faster than mine die for no good reason...

 

[MarkG]

It's OK, mine's been fine since the new BIOS. It was idling at 32C on Monday night and still running games at the right speed.

 

[rubix_1011]

I have a 7800gtx that is on water, and under load at several hours never sees above 38c. I personally call shenanegans on this tech guy...I have always been under the impression that cooler (with the exception of absolute zero) is always better for electronic components as long as its free of condensation. I like the part about screwing with your fan and heatsink to allow it to heat up. Heat up to surface of the sun temps and melt your PCB through your floor.

 

[stevejason]

It's OK, mine's been fine since the new BIOS. It was idling at 32C on Monday night and still running games at the right speed.

Unfortunately BFG has chosen to ignore the problem. Makes me wonder if the recent price drop for their model is related to the bug. $80 is a pretty big reduction.

 

[CompTIA_Rep]

Naw BFG wouldnt do that.

Could the same company that includes a sicker "OMGWTFBFGSAUCE" with their 8800gts/x ignore such a problem?

 

[apache_lives]

ROFLMAO x 1,000,000,000,000,000


Remove the fan and void your warranty is what he was asking you to do. (Yes it states if you remove the fan, or use an aftermarket one, your warranty is void).

There is no such thing as a processor (GPU or otherwise) running too cold, unless it is soo cold that it is slowing the movement of electrons though the chip. I believe this temp is somewhere near -256c.


I would call up their CR *customer relations and tell them they are full of crap.

by your logic i should also ring your house and tell your mum your full of crap too? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[CompTIA_Rep]

its not a defect caused by the processor slowing down physically due to coldness.

And yes, if you reed the warranty, most say that removing the stock fan will void the warranty, AMD/Intel, or otherwise. *at least last time I bothered to read the long winded paper.

 

[Tanja72]

8O A temporarely solution is to install Riva Tuner and lower fanspeeds with this nice piece of software. This to increase temp's on GPU. An alternative and more drastic solution is to Edit your current bios from your videocard with NiBiTor. There is a temperature tab in NiBiTor. Hit this Tab. Now enable the"Disable Temperature Monitoring" Save this bios. Now flash this new bios into your videocard with Winflash5.33. Your problems are gone for ever.
This is a know bug. Called Cold Bug

If BFG will come with their own modified bios, you can always flash this in.
Good luck :lol:

 

[CompTIA_Rep]

I believe he said it was fixed with a bios update.

 

[apache_lives]

its not a defect caused by the processor slowing down physically due to coldness.

And yes, if you reed the warranty, most say that removing the stock fan will void the warranty, AMD/Intel, or otherwise. *at least last time I bothered to read the long winded paper.

reed? :lol:

as if there going to find out you removed the hsf

 

[stevejason]

I believe he said it was fixed with a bios update.

His bios update was for XFX. That doesn't help BFG owners. 🙁

 

[CompTIA_Rep]

ah.
So XFX > BFG in this regard.

Oh well, nothing an upside down can of compressed air cant solve.

 

[Tanja72]

8O A temporarely solution is to install Riva Tuner and lower fanspeeds with this nice piece of software. This to increase temp's on GPU. An alternative and more drastic solution is to Edit your current bios from your videocard with NiBiTor. There is a temperature tab in NiBiTor. Hit this Tab. Now enable the"Disable Temperature Monitoring" Save this bios. Now flash this new bios into your videocard with Winflash5.33. Your problems are gone for ever.
This is a know bug. Called Cold Bug

If BFG will come with their own modified bios, you can always flash this in.
Good luck :lol:

This can be aplied to any 7800GS card. Regardless the brand. The NiBitor Software is developed for Nvidia based videocards. So you can download your bios from your videocard and edit it. Enable the "Disable Temperature Monitoring" Save This edited bios like: "newbios.rom" and flash it with winflash.