RTX 4070 vs RX 7900 GRE faceoff: Which mainstream graphics card is better?

[redgarl]

The GRE is on par with the 4070 SUPER, however the retail price of the GRE is 540$ and the one of the SUPER is 610$.

Argue as much as you want Jarred, but this is all you need to know.

 

[redgarl]

Lastly Jarred, I am working in project management.

What you defined in your review are called Evaluation Criterias.

Basically, if your criterias are flawed, you will end up with the conclusions that you had because you didn't weight your criterias.

If you don't even know that, then you don't know how to make a review.

 

[35below0]

Are you done digging your grave?

Even if we took all your arguments to make your review relevant, the matter of fact is that Performance and Price take the majority of the weight.

I would put Performance at 40%, Price at 40%, Memory at 10% and the rest at 10%.

I wouldn't go that far. And you're basically insisting that your criteria is better and should be used. You're free to write your article and run your own tests.

I was criticising the review because the benchmarks and performance swing the 7900GRE's way, and the "devil is in the details" stuff doesn't seem convincing to me.

I also consider that a large percentage of games played on these cards will not be the ones benchmarked or games with high RT demand. A 4060 will run GTA V or Cyberpunk. A ton of popular games do not have hardware requirements anywhere near a 4070/7900GRE.

This does make the question of longevity important. Much as i disagree with the verdict itself, it is neccessary to try and guess which one of these two GPUs will run out of steam first and when. Can i really blame people for guessing when it really can only be guessed?
It's also why i consider them such poor value but that maybe has more to do with where they sit on the totem pole of today's cards and the prices of GPUs in general.

The fact that you put the 4070 (NON SUPER) above the GRE is literally a farce.

At this tier of GPU, CUDA and Ray Tracing should not even matter. You would definitely not buy a 4070 for some CUDA work and you will get abysmal Ray Tracing performance for that tier making this whole analysis a joke.

People are not dumb, we have seen the comparisons all over the internet and we know that the 4070 is pale in comparison of the 4070 SUPER and the GRE.

This is true. However, it does expose how much AMD has to do to catch up, and why so many gamers choose nvidias.
It's not just rumors of crap drivers. Nvidia is good and in a few select games real good. AMD's GPUs usually offer better value overall, esp. if RT is ignored as a gimmick, or because the 4060 and 4070 aren't really so great at it.

I mentioned the 7800XT previously. It's pretty good value. The 4070 and 7900GRE are close in price, and the 4070 Ti is well above.
In this price range, i personally cannot fathom picking a 4070. It's the worst choice by a mile. Either of the 7800XT and 7900GRE are a better choice.
If you truly want better RT value, save up for the 4070 Ti.
If your budget cannot stretch to a 7800XT, buy a 4060.

Those are the only two nvidias in the vicinity. Right at this price point it's AMD's patch, and it seems so obvious to me.

But that is my opinion.
Also, it should be added that background removal or similar effects can make the 4070 a much better choice!
As long as it's just gaming, it's a bad deal.

 

[JarredWaltonGPU]

For those saying the 4070 Super is massively better than the 4070... in terms of bang for the buck and features, it's nowhere near a decisive victory.









So, the 4070 Super beats the 4070 by 18% at 4K, 14% at 1440p and 1080p ultra, and 9% at 1080p medium. It also costs about 13% more, and both still have 12GB of VRAM. You can mostly dismiss the native 4K results as being less of a factor for the cards, which means you're basically getting linear fps/$ scaling. That's not bad, but neither does it make for a major point in favor of the 4070 Super. Both are, in my mind, effectively equally good.

 

[Joseph_138]

You need a much stronger power supply to run the 7900 GRE, than you do with the 4070, and if you have such a power supply, you won't be looking to buy a 4070. You'll be looking at least at a 4080.

 

[Joseph_138]

It is very sweet when someone posts the exact post that you want to post.
7900GRE is one higher than 4070 but victory goes to NVIDIA because of "software and features". WTF is wrong with TH?!

7900 GRE also requires a more powerful PSU, and anyone with the PSU that the 7900 GRE requires, isn't going to be in the market for a 4070. They will want at least a 4080, which beats the 7900 GRE in everything.

 

[thestryker]

7900 GRE also requires a more powerful PSU, and anyone with the PSU that the 7900 GRE requires, isn't going to be in the market for a 4070. They will want at least a 4080, which beats the 7900 GRE in everything.

There's a 60W difference in power consumption and nobody buying a PC with the intent of gaming should be buying one with anything less than a 650W PSU no matter what video card they're getting so you're definitely overstating the power situation.