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The alleged 4070 Ti Super specs are exactly what I hope for. If that comes true, and at the same price point, I'd be happy to buy that.

The 4080 Super, though... that's just weird to me. If true, there would be six different cards packing the 5,888-10,240 CUDA core range, and then nothing up until the 4090 with 16,384? That's a huge gap. There aren't enough defective AD102 dies to create a new SKU with them? I have trouble believing this.
 
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AgentBirdnest said:
The alleged 4070 Ti Super specs are exactly what I hope for. If that comes true, and at the same price point, I'd be happy to buy that.

The 4080 Super, though... that's just weird to me. If true, there would be six different cards packing the 5,888-10,240 CUDA core range, and then nothing up until the 4090 with 16,384? That's a huge gap. There aren't enough defective AD102 dies to create a new SKU with them? I have trouble believing this.
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The current 4080 is a xx60 class GPU to begin with. Any 70 class from the 4000 series is a 50 class, so no, it's not worth it at any price point. A real 80 class would have been palatable at a midpoint between the current 4080 and 4090 and maybe at $799 max. Of course, if that is all that's on offer then, one does what one must.
 
elforeign said:
The current 4080 is a xx60 class GPU to begin with. Any 70 class from the 4000 series is a 50 class, so no, it's not worth it at any price point. A real 80 class would have been palatable at a midpoint between the current 4080 and 4090 and maybe at $799 max. Of course, if that is all that's on offer then, one does what one must.
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Not sure where you been the last few years this is 2023 not 2018.
The 4080 is a XX80 class card not a XX60.

EDIT The main thing that kills the Green Team is the price if your just looking for pure performance without the bit of extra stuff AMD really spanks them for performance per dollar.
 
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Colif said:
with a really silly name... pick one.... not both... so whats next, the 4090 TI Super Duper?

I thought they would have given 4080 more than 16gb vram.
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personally i wouldnt touch the 4080 super unless its has 20gb of Vram ..

i like my 7900xtx red devil and i really couldnt warrant a 4080 super but for 20gb of vram and a better uplift putting it squarely in between the 4080 and 4090 it would make more sense and be a great buy !!
 
Colif said:
with a really silly name... pick one.... not both... so whats next, the 4090 TI Super Duper?

I thought they would have given 4080 more than 16gb vram.
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They are getting like everything else like a Gaming motherboard. If it's a Gaming motherboard it must be better.
Funny a bit off topic is the new AMD 7500F processor with no video using Intel naming?

EDIT 4090ti Super Duper Gaming.
 
Colif said:
I would have to label you insane if you bought a 4080 when you already have a 7900 XTX. 😀
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No i wouldnt i dont buy like that 3 gens now ive brought AMD's best of the best GPU's so i bought a 5700xt red devil for my first build when the 6900xt red devil released bought it got 2 plus years out of it now ive got the 7900xtx bought at release if i can get 2 years till the 8900 what ever very happy ..

This is another reason why i like AMD apart from the last hurrah of the 6950xt ( and fully expect a 7950xtx or something like that ) ive bought the best of the best AMD has offered not the rubbish Nvidia spews out to its silly early adopters only to super seed it with a better product ..

Ill forgive the 6950xt because i got a good 2 years of the 6900xt red devil being the best of the best AMD offered before the lets sell the better bined 6950xt at the end of life !!

But for a new buyer looking for that balance and price between a 4080 and 4090 a 20 gb 4080 super would be a stella buy !!
 
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Zerk2012 said:
They are getting like everything else like a Gaming motherboard. If it's a Gaming motherboard it must be better.
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Calling it gaming and covering it with RGB makes it faster... right? oh wait, that is Razer's business model.
I don't know about the AMD CPU.

Yes, these are nice for people who held out... not so nice for those who bought early.
Not sure what AMD are doing. I know eventually I won't have 2nd best AMD card but I won't cry over it.
 
Colif said:
Calling it gaming and covering it with RGB makes it faster... right? oh wait, that is Razer's business model.
I don't know about the AMD CPU.

Yes, these are nice for people who held out... not so nice for those who bought early.
Not sure what AMD are doing. I know eventually I won't have 2nd best AMD card but I won't cry over it.
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i expect them to push out the 50s again so 7950xtx 7950xt 7850xt at some point but if they do i dont expect them till a few months before we start getting solid info on the next gen AMD cards !!
 
Normally when I buy new hardware I stop looking at new things afterwards as I know they are always better. I don't try to stay on cutting edge. So maybe owners of the older 40 series cards won't feel that bad. I won't if they release 7950 XTX. I wouldn't be surprised if they skipped the XT.
I just buy best I can afford and be happy with that I have no plans on buying another GPU any time soon. There are only 2 games I can't play at recommended and one of those is because of my CPU, not GPU. (Phantom Liberty needs a 7800x3d).
 
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I can't believe anyone would even half like/recommend one of these Supers.

Too much segmentation. It's an solute joke. How these releases don't affect the bottom line, has me baffled. Same with AMD nerfing their standard 7xxx series with the X3D models. WTF!? Doesn't make sense IMO.
 
There appears to be a bigger leap from the 4060 to the 4060Ti than there is from the 4080 and the 4080 Super. Not a big jump, unless I am missing something. I am interpreting this move as Nvidia trying to bring the 4080's rasterization performance up to par with the 7900XTX rather than outperforming it.
 
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Zerk2012 said:
Not sure where you been the last few years this is 2023 not 2018.
The 4080 is a XX80 class card not a XX60.
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He's wrong about being an XX60 as that was/is the 4080 12GB/4070 Ti but it certainly isn't an XX80 class.

Just look at the functionality and performance relative to the architecture.

4080 has 51% of Ada's cores with 51% of the performance.
3070 has 54% of Amp's cores with 51% of the performance.
2070 has 50% of Tur's cores with 49% of the performance.
1070 has 50% of Pasc's cores with 53% of the performance

The 4080 clearly should have been the base 4070.
 
We saw how much the memory bandwidth nerfed the 7900GRE and how the 7800XT performs compared to the GRE.

So this gives me hope that the 4070ti super can stretch it's legs and perform better with the 16gb vram. If thats the case and it beats the 7900XT, it's a good card to consider IMHO.
 
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Zerk2012 said:
Not sure where you been the last few years this is 2023 not 2018.
The 4080 is a XX80 class card not a XX60.

EDIT The main thing that kills the Green Team is the price if your just looking for pure performance without the bit of extra stuff AMD really spanks them for performance per dollar.
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It's increasingly obvious what slight of hand was applied.

They added a few classes and name-shifted everything a tier or so up so that it could appear that the GPU's are faster than they actually are... at the same time they not only increased the prices they applied higher tier pricing to the cards than they would have gotten away with previously.

Intel did the same thing on a slightly lower scale by splitting the top and bottom most CPU's into newly created classes..... the i9 for example is basically just an i7 that does not have half it's capability removed.

The XX70 is is actually an XX60 or XX50 and the XX60 is actually an XX30 or XX50 etc. nVidia got very creative with this shell game and hoped no one would notice, it gets especially complicated with the newly invented "super" variants.

It's a marketing scam that almost everyone funnily enough is STILL faling for. It's not that nVidia did not release a 40 series budget model.... it's that they did and are pretending it's a medium model.
 
Roland Of Gilead said:
I can't believe anyone would even half like/recommend one of these Supers.

Too much segmentation. It's an solute joke. How these releases don't affect the bottom line, has me baffled. Same with AMD nerfing their standard 7xxx series with the X3D models. WTF!? Doesn't make sense IMO.
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i dont think we truly know either companies bottom line or there sales or how many actual units shipped ..

In the end its money money money .. Nvidia knows that idiots will buy anything they shove out the door " so buy the 4080 at release some will be back for the refresh " even if at a smaller number than the original 4080.

Im not sure what AMD's deal is they announced the x3d's were coming before or at the same time they announced the normal x versions almost automatically nerfing their sales of the x versions then proceeded to release non x versions of the x versions ..

Now i personally like the non x versions they feel and seem to be a better buy than the x versions ( much easier to cool cheaper with a slight loss in performance and frankly if gaming is your thing at 4k or 1440p the lower clocks are negligible )

This seems to be the norm these day just keeps shoving out as much stuff to try to make a dollar which seems to no longer be marketed to the budget PC builder just mid range to high end !!
 
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