News RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 listed for $2,600 and $1,350 at Chinese retailer — leaked listing suggests Blackwell might see a price hike, at least in China

[spongiemaster]

I'll bet the 5070 Ti, which is a mid range card (upper mid range but still mid range) will see $1000 variants.

That's a meaningless statement. Nvidia can set an MSRP, but the market will dictate what the cards actually sell for, not Nvidia. Cyrpto bubble/AI bubble/? bubble drove up the prices, not Nvidia. Is the oversized cooler Asus slaps on their ROG GPU's worth $300+? I bet not. People still buy them. Blame the customers, not Nvidia. A company cannot sell a product at prices people are not willing to pay.

 

[awake283]

I really wish AMD hadn't basically abandoned the high end GPU race...would have been nice to see them drop an "8900XTX" at $999 or so that matches the 5090. Oh well.

8090* 😀

 

[usertests]

Full stop. Does no one understand that there are sanctions on Nvidia GPUs and that this card can not legally be sold in China? I don't endorse it but speculation about a price of a card that can't be purchased in a certain country is pointless

Good point, like nobody has heard of the "5090D". Leaked months ago, confirmed by recent Zotac mistake.

Although the existence of that makes me concerned about the sanctions logic. How is it that the 4090 can't be sold but a 5090D can?

8090* 😀

9090 XT :O

 

[nitrium]

I am assuming the RTX 5070 will be priced at launch similarly to the RTX 4070 (i.e. US$600) + maybe 5% for inflation . Am I being naïve?

 

[wr3zzz]

These prices mean nothing in regard to MSRP. After Nvidia stopped production and stopped shipping 4090 scalpers drove prices up beyond $2000 outside China and resellers in China responded in kind. 4090 prices have been listed at CNY17-19,000. Even the China legal 4090D can only be found at CNY15,000+, way above MSRP as authoirzed retailers have ran out of stock. These new listings are just mirroring the current prices of 4090.

BTW, it is generally illegal in China for authorized retailers to sell good above MSRP. When 3090 launched, China was the only market where 3090 were readily available for purchase at MSRP in quantity.

 

[acadia11]

nvidiaflation is something else.

 

[acadia11]

That's a meaningless statement. Nvidia can set an MSRP, but the market will dictate what the cards actually sell for, not Nvidia. Cyrpto bubble/AI bubble/? bubble drove up the prices, not Nvidia. Is the oversized cooler Asus slaps on their ROG GPU's worth $300+? I bet not. People still buy them. Blame the customers, not Nvidia. A company cannot sell a product at prices people are not willing to pay.

Not true, if you were in the desert and I offered you water for $1 million dollars knowing that the reality this water is only $1 to produce but given circumstances I can inflate the price who should be blamed? Or if I’m a scalper and I buy up all the Taylor Swift Beyoncé concert tour tickets (in this alternate universe they go on tour together) and sell them for 20000% above “reasonable” cost who is to blame? The issue is the monopoly of circumstance and the harbinger of collapse in capitalism is monopoly, “greed is good” but greed is very bad for a system when it’s unchecked or monopolistic … too close to the sun a planet burns and too far from the sun it freezes. The point you need balance for a healthy system and customers don’t actually matter or influence price in monopolistic system. Hence, you’ll eventually have economic collapse of that system.

 

[daftshadow]

The pricing for these new graphic cards are mind boggling. Time and time again.

But with each iteration, the tech in them can last you quite a while compared to the earlier days. I'm still happy with my 3080. I don't need to play with raytracing or 4k. And the games still look great at 2k with high settings. And fps performance is still good in recently released titles.

 

[spongiemaster]

Not true, if you were in the desert and I offered you water for $1 million dollars knowing that the reality this water is only $1 to produce but given circumstances I can inflate the price who should be blamed? Or if I’m a scalper and I buy up all the Taylor Swift Beyoncé concert tour tickets (in this alternate universe they go on tour together) and sell them for 20000% above “reasonable” cost who is to blame? The issue is the monopoly of circumstance and the harbinger of collapse in capitalism is monopoly, “greed is good” but greed is very bad for a system when it’s unchecked or monopolistic … too close to the sun a planet burns and too far from the sun it freezes. The point you need balance for a healthy system and customers don’t actually matter or influence price in monopolistic system. Hence, you’ll eventually have economic collapse of that system.

None of this is relevant to Nvidia's share of the blame for GPU prices. Nvidia sells GPU's to OEM's at a price agreed to in contracts. These prices do not fluctuate day to day or with the ebb and flow of market demand. Any upward spikes at retailers due to increased market demand are not a result of anything Nvidia did.

 

[Pigpig]

People complain about the price but still buy it, just children. Keep what you already have or buy a used card that was launched at decent price and life goes on, gaming is just something to do on spare occasions when there's nothing actually important going on

AMD is definitely going to launch a 7900XT level card between $500 and $600 this gen and there's nothing this GPU won't run smoothly

if intel release B980 , i will buy it. lets nvidia playing marketing strategy alone

 

[acadia11]

None of this is relevant to Nvidia's share of the blame for GPU prices. Nvidia sells GPU's to OEM's at a price agreed to in contracts. These prices do not fluctuate day to day or with the ebb and flow of market demand. Any upward spikes at retailers due to increased market demand are not a result of anything Nvidia did.

Oh contraire NVIDIA cost to oems and retailers in fact due change, as do the cost that they pay to have Blackwell built or the metal cost or the silicon cost for the lasers that go into ASML machines TSMC uses. These contractual cost are longer term but not fixed permenantly . The article is referring to the generational cost MSRP not the street price consumers see on store shelves. The bottom line nvidia as a monopoly has huge influence right now … as does TSMC and ASML and a bevy of other components in this supply chain. And none of this is good in the long term for a host of reasons … more importantly as a consumer why are you advocating to pay more? What’s in it for you?

 

[LolaGT]

As long as people are falling for the pseudo AI team greed has little incentive to worry about what gamers want or will pay. The big money is being spent on silicon that isn't going to retail for PC building.
Space boy and others are buying up all they make.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I saw a video a day or so ago basically saying the 5070 is what will get marketed to gamers and that the 5080 and 5090 will essentially be cards for AI professionals but still with the GeForce branding and that if some gamers buy them more money for nvidia essentially.

Just picked up a deal on a 7900xtx this week. Who needs nvidia? I think I’ll be happy with this card a while.

 

[Pigpig]

3080 $700 MSRP🤓

5080 $1350 MSRP 💩

 

[PiersPlowman]

Jensen Huang can write whatever figures he fancies on the price tag, but it won't cost me a penny because I ain't buying jack.

 

[awake283]

Jensen Huang can write whatever figures he fancies on the price tag, but it won't cost me a penny because I ain't buying jack.

No offense but your poor 480 is probably on its last legs asking for release

 

[drivinfast247]

Called it! 3 grand for the 5090. RIP Gaming PC builders.

So no one is selling a new GPU for less than $3k?

 

[Ogotai]

So no one is selling a new GPU for less than $3k?

keep in mind.. thats probably US prices...

not one what is actually worth buying... which is too bad.. the 3060 i am using could use an update....

 

[newtechldtech]

No offense but your poor 480 is probably on its last legs asking for release

These prices will force the Majority of PC Gamers to move to consoles. in few years it will bite Nvidia back .

 

[SoNic67]

A leak suggests that Nvidia has priced the RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 at $2,600 and $1,350 in China.

RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 listed for $2,600 and $1,350 at Chinese retailer — leaked listing suggests Blackwell might see a price hike, at least in China : Read more

Aren't performance GPUs banned for export in China?
If they are not on the list currently (because they are not launched), they will be for sure. he U.S. government now restricts a specified level of performance density within a specific silicon volume.

How can we see prices for them?

 

[PiersPlowman]

No offense but your poor 480 is probably on its last legs asking for release

Well, you'd be wrong - my old RX480 works as well as the day I bought it (new, and I got 50 bucks off the MSRP, too!).

However, with the current AMvidia price escalator speeding up, I may very well be using it until the fans fall off and it blows up.

 

[PiersPlowman]

These prices will force the Majority of PC Gamers to move to consoles. in few years it will bite Nvidia back .

Worse, sustained price rises could compromise the PC as a gaming platform. PC gaming has, for obvious reasons, commanded a premium, but we may reach a point where PC game sales fall to such an extent that the software houses stop developing for the PC.

Indeed, it is conceivable that Nvidia may be exiting the desktop GPU space, not by refusing to develop or release new products, but by pricing beyond what the casual gamer is willing to pay. At the very least, Huang is testing to see just how much gamers are willing to pay for their fix.

 

[awake283]

Well, you'd be wrong - my old RX480 works as well as the day I bought it (new, and I got 50 bucks off the MSRP, too!).

However, with the current AMvidia price escalator speeding up, I may very well be using it until the fans fall off and it blows up.

Oh I wasnt insulting you, an RX480 is up there with the 1080Ti for best GPU of all time.

Just saying, it still might be time to upgrade! How about a B580? As far as Nvidia goes I won't be surprised if in 10 years they make zero products for the individual consumer.

 

[TeamRed2024]

I bet the 5080 is about the performance of the 4090, so it will be priced about the same as the 4090..

I don't know why people are surprised, this is the 3rd generation in the row they're pricing like this.

I hope the 5090 does turn out to be $2600... because it will make hanging on to the 4090 a stupid easy decision. There is nothing I do on my PC that my 4090 can't handle with ease.

Maybe the 6090 will be $4000. Nvidia is on crack.

On a side note it kinda reminds me of phone tech. For a while I upgraded every year... but haven't done that since 2018. Phone tech is super good now that most are keeping their phones 2-3-4 years or more. I'm beginning to feel the same way with my GPU... because at 4K ultra my 4090 doesn't break a sweat... and I'm not gonna pay $2600 to experience path tracing and ray tracing on games I don't play.

 

[valthuer]

For a while I upgraded every year... but haven't done that since 2018. Phone tech is super good now that most are keeping their phones 2-3-4 years or more. I'm beginning to feel the same way with my GPU...

You 're not wrong. I have just entered the 7th consecutive year of using my iPhone XS Max, which i bought back in early December 2018.

Other than the battery life decreasing (which is to be expected, after all this time), phone's still a beast.

Last year, i had the cash to buy myself a new iPhone, but instead opted for 4090, and haven't regretted it ever since.

No reason to replace something that's been working flawlessly.

Seeing these insane GPU prices, I plan on holding on to it for as long as i can.

With the help of both DLSS and Frame Generation, i suspect i won't feel the need to upgrade for at least two more years.