[citation][nom]cercuitspark[/nom]The processor the PS4 is based on isn't even out yet, and you're calling it outdated?And adding the optimization you can get from programming for a spesific set of components, you will get much more graphically advanced games for the next gen console than for the PC in it's current from.- A PC enthusiast and PC gamer.[/citation]
Sony is using an AMD CPU, clock for clock it's not as good as the I7, however when you going to multi thread tasks it's capable.
If the PlayStation four forces you to use more than one core for videogame, the AMD structure would be more beneficial to it than in I7, especially when you look at the cost of in I7 and the fact that a multi core processes AMD CPU sometimes surpassed the I7.
Calling it outdated is stupid but it's not entirely wrong
[citation][nom]downhill911[/nom]I pray that Xbox infinity will be on par with PS4 or better, then all those new games are going to look epic and PC ones even better.So far, I am really impressed with killzone, although it was only 720p but you could see textures where much better.Really hope Microsoft will try to out-performance PS4, but I somehow doubt that.[/citation]
Kill zone was honestly the most unimpressive demo up there next to the racing game, in the kill zone demo I can just see every way they can fake making it look better than it actually is. What I mean is The little techniques that you use to make it seem like you're doing more than you actually are.
The most impressive game on their was watchdogs and that was PC version not the PlayStation four version.
Other than that was tech demos from squareenix and Capcom, with what might be a cut scene from infamous three, mixed in with again that's more of a tech demos on an actual game and a racing game that had severe popin issues.
Sure the text resolution was higher, but beyond that I saw nothing great.
[citation][nom]tokencode[/nom]'It usually takes them a few years to squeeze all of the potential out of a new hardware platform. The new generation of consoles may finally bring some software that can push modern PCs, but I'm not so sure PS4 or the new Xbox will take a 3-way SLI setup. Remember, some computer gamers are playing at 3 times the resolution of your 1080p TV today. With things like Occulus Rift on the horizon, I'm not sure consoles will ever catch again at this point.[/citation]
With the oculus rift you take a huge burden off the graphics card. I believe the current developers kit for the oculus rift is 720 P split in two, and the consumer version should be 1080 P split in two.
Current 3-D on the PC takes 120 Hz monitor and it renders true 1080 P images
3-D through the oculus rift requires a 60 Hz and only one 1080 P image total.
And even with the rendering less, the thing feels like you're seeing so much more and that you're in the game actually there.
But here's the thing, if the oculus rift doesn't actually come to the consoles, if headmounted displays don't come to the consoles, will they ever take off. I don't care which console is beat the 360 ordered next PlayStation whichever one of them brings a headmounted display from day one and actually allow support for will be a godsend to everybody. But if it doesn't come out in the consoles I have a fear that they'll fail.
[citation][nom]p05esto[/nom]MS better not F up again like Win8. I don't have a lot of confidence at this point to be honest. Everything I've so far has been depressing about the xBox.[/citation]
Before the launch of the Nintendo Wiiu, Microsoft is looking to just make the console 20% faster than it. And given that at least the last two E3's, Microsoft shown that they don't give a damn about the gamer
[citation][nom]theLiminator[/nom]Actually, at the time of it's announcement, the PS3 was much more powerful than any standard PC that was available to consumers at that time. But the PS4 doesn't seem to be that powerful already.[/citation]
Most people who have a computer using at most and I5 and maybe integrated graphics, wasn't even until recently that more than 4 GB of RAM became a standard on a 64 bits system
hell let me look up a laptop for you
Lenovo ThinkPad L520 Laptop,
15.6" LED HD Backlit,
Intel Core i5-2520M Dual-Core 2.5GHz,
4GB DDR3,
320GB Hard Drive,
802.11n
cost 1200$ list price, 650 deal price,
pre built (what most people get) is PATHETIC too, but i also dont see brebuilt towers much anymore. last one i saw was over 900$ and had a sub mid range gpu in it
[citation][nom]blazorthon[/nom]PC hardware of the time was also using much less power than high-end PC hardware today. PC hardware power consumption limits have gone far up whereas consoles have had to go down. It's ridiculous for anyone to expect performance differences to not follow those lines.Also, the PS4's graphics performance are supposedly comparable to something like a Radeon 7850. With their great optimization, it's possible that nothing far short of two Radeon 7950s or two GTX 670s will be able to give a better graphics quality experience. You won't get better performance within a console's price range, that much is almost certain.[/citation]
yea... no... not a chance in hell... they will be able to pull some more power out of it, but this is based on x86 something was already know and know how to pull power from well... you may get at most a 20% boos for the one hardware scheme to program for, but you arent makeing a 7850 preform up to crossfired 7950
[citation][nom]kinggraves[/nom]Irrelevant. The average consumer isn't willing to drop over $1k to play games no matter what the quality is. Enthusiast PC gamers make up such a small fraction of the consumer base you might as well not exist to them. Reality bites.MS has hinted it's going to take an approach closer to Nintendo than PS this time around, so I'd say ps4 will have the best hardware. This is likely why they're holding back until April letting Sony parade itself around for awhile. MS is in the most advantageous position right now, they know what Nintendo can do and what Sony is promising it can do. They've got a couple months to figure out how to make theirs sound better.I do however think MS might have something to show come April. A lot of people are saying Sony is being coy with the PS4, I don't really think they have anything to show right now. They were originally planning PS4 for 2014, but it would be a bad idea to let the competition get such a head start on them. They were forced to get it together for Holiday 2013. I'm predicting even more than the usual Sony launch failure by the end of this year.[/citation]
look at the consoles
nintendo>super nintendo> nintendo 64>game cube>wii>wiiu
each one was a leap in hardware preformance (gamecube to wii was double the power, not much but a leap)
if microsoft really just goes for 20% better than the wiiu, which at the time was rumored to be 360 quality graphics but at 1080p, would people jump on the next xbox?
with the games that sony showed off, it may not look like a major leap, but it is, would people really go for xbox if all it did was go to 1080p and had kinect for everything?
[citation][nom]cobra5000[/nom]If you can't show the console, why waste the effort? It is a joke! Do you hear me Sony, Microsoft?[/citation]
they didn't show it because when microsoft has their next box blow out, sony will have something fairly major to announce... its not hard to see why they didn't show it...
[citation][nom]shikamaru31789[/nom]Agreed. The level of graphics I was seeing in those PS4 demos was equal to what a mid-high end PC can do now. For instance, the Watch Dogs PS4 demo seemed to match the E3 demo which was running on a high end PC. Buy a $500 PC now, and I highly doubt it'll meet the minimum requirements of multi-platform games in 6 years, while the $400 Xbox Infinity and PS4 will still be playing those same games.[/citation]
because watch dog demo was pc source, not ps4
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