Rumor Roundup: Everything We've Heard on Desktop Haswell So Far, June 3, Box Art Included

[N.Broekhuijsen]

A brief roundup of all the information that has come to light, through rumors or otherwise, regarding the upcoming Intel Haswell desktop CPUs.

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[Tom Williams]

When will we know about the Z87 motherboards?

 

[sundragon]

All this hubub for 5-10% performance improvement... Oh, memories of days yonder when AMD cracked the whip and intel jumped...
I say this and I'm still interested, lulz

 

[Tom Williams]

dup posting..sorry.

 

[Guest]

This will be my next upgrade from my 2600k. But seriously who gives a rip about its integrated graphics. No one in their right mind cares about it either when buying these types of CPUs. When paired with a top of the line 2 dedicated GPUs (GTX 680s) in my case, you can't beat the performance. Best of the best. I'm hoping for a nice 20-30% boost over my current CPU. Or better.

 

[Guest]

When will we know about the Z87 motherboards?

Starting to leak out slowly. Prob will be next month before any hit retail at earliest.

 

[vmem]

Hmm, for all current sandybridge "k" users, it looks like we're only looking at a ~20% increase at stock clocks (btw, do notice these chips are clocked higher at stock!) Eitherway I currently have my chip overclocked so I guess performance will largely how overclockable haswell is. remember how Ivybridge's bad thermals basically meant ZERO performance increase from an overclocked sandy part? T_T

 

[josejones]

So, Intel finally decided to stop including those crappy CPU coolers and either switch it for an upgrade or just leave it out completely and reduce the price by $20?

 

[DarkSable]

I still don't understand how Intel thinks that having an increased core clock... that is only tied to the CPU... is going to make overclocking any 'easier.'
Surely people who are actually going to overclock know better than to see that as anything but market hype, yes?

 

[RazberyBandit]

This will be my next upgrade from my 2600k. But seriously who gives a rip about its integrated graphics. No one in their right mind cares about it either when buying these types of CPUs. When paired with a top of the line 2 dedicated GPUs (GTX 680s) in my case, you can't beat the performance. Best of the best. I'm hoping for a nice 20-30% boost over my current CPU. Or better.

Perhaps you (and most gamers) don't care about IGP, but plenty of productivity-driven professionals whose primary concern is compute performance, not graphics performance, may indeed care. If the IGP is good enough, such individuals would have no need to add a discrete card of any kind to their machines to get their work done.

I don't feel Haswell's mild increase in performance truly warrants an upgrade for most Sandy Bridge owners, let alone Ivy Bridge owners.

 

[edwd2]

At least, the processors are 5-7 dollars cheaper their respective ivy bridge counterparts on average, that aside, am i the only who thinks the box artwork is pretty bad?

 

[DarkSable]

At least, the processors are 5-7 dollars cheaper their respective ivy bridge counterparts on average, that aside, am i the only who thinks the box artwork is pretty bad?

Nope. It's weird.

 

[tomfreak]

All this hubub for 5-10% performance improvement... Oh, memories of days yonder when AMD cracked the whip and intel jumped...
I say this and I'm still interested, lulz

I think it isnt that impressive to previous "K"CPU owner. but the unlock BLCK from Haswell + high multi will mean pretty much all other non-K CPU will be highly overclock-able.

This is pretty deadly if it is apply on the super budget dual CPU like i3 + pentium class Especially for people who are looking to upgrade from core 2 duo system and are looking for high IPC CPU without breaking the bank.

May be a 4GHz+ cheap $30-100 pentium / i3 can finally end the overpriced core 2 quads Q95xx/Q9650 which cost $100 on a used unit.

 

[DarkSable]

I think it isnt that impressive to previous "K"CPU owner. but the unlock BLCK from Haswell + high multi will mean pretty much all other non-K CPU will be highly overclock-able.

This is pretty deadly if it is apply on the super budget dual CPU like i3 + pentium class Especially for people who are looking to upgrade from core 2 duo system and are looking for high IPC CPU without breaking the bank.

May be a 4GHz+ cheap $30-100 pentium / i3 can finally end the overpriced core 2 quads Q95xx/Q9650 which cost $100 on a used unit.

This is Intel we're talking about. I would be very, very surprised if they went back to selling processors that could overclock without paying the premium for a 'k' series chip... especially since they are still selling 'k' series.

There's no way they're selling a 'k' series chip while still letting the others overclock.

 

[ujaansona]

That box art looks hideous.

 

[kewlmunky]

Wish they would release variants without the integrated graphics for cheaper.

 

[DarkSable]

Wish they would release variants without the integrated graphics for cheaper.

I pretty much guarantee you they'll release an equivalent of the 3350p, but not on release day.

 

[teh_chem]

I still don't understand how Intel thinks that having an increased core clock... that is only tied to the CPU... is going to make overclocking any 'easier.'
Surely people who are actually going to overclock know better than to see that as anything but market hype, yes?

I kinda agree with you. Historically, having an adjustable CPU frequency meant that you could overclock without the need of a special multiplier-unlocked CPU--with any old CPU. But since they're still only allowing adjustment with an unlocked CPU, I'm not getting much of the significance.

 

[JOSHSKORN]

But can it run Crysis by itself or does it still need a dedicated video card?

 

[marshal11]

@DarkSable I personally think that separating the BSCLK from the rest of the system is a good thing. When I tune the BSCLK I don't want my RAM to be screwed with. If I wanted my RAM to run at higher frequencies I'd like to OC it separately, and vice versa.

 

[DarkSable]

@DarkSable I personally think that separating the BSCLK from the rest of the system is a good thing. When I tune the BSCLK I don't want my RAM to be screwed with. If I wanted my RAM to run at higher frequencies I'd like to OC it separately, and vice versa.

That's all fine and dandy, but this doesn't matter at all. It's completely separated from anything but the core, so it's not actually gaining you anything.... which means there will be zero difference between overclocking with the multiplier and overclocking with the core clock.

 

[wanderer11]

That i5-4570T with its 2 cores/4 threads bugs me every time I see it.

 

[icemunk]

Maybe we all need to start buying AMD, just so Intel gets the hint and start pushing more than these meesley 5-10% gains

 

[ojas]

It looks like a CPU box.

NO. SERIOUSLY???...?...!

All this hubub for 5-10% performance improvement... Oh, memories of days yonder when AMD cracked the whip and intel jumped...
I say this and I'm still interested, lulz

Yeah i know we should stop buying AMD processors all together, considering their 10-15% improvement in 5 years...

 

[colinstu]

Fakest looking box art ever.