Rx 470 ($250) gtx 1060 6gb ($330) AUD

[Ilya_15]

Guys which one should I get, I know Rx 470 is a little bit worse but Vulcan and direct x 12 give it a performance boost and for $80 cheaper... Thoughts? Thanks guys. P.S Prices are in Australian dollar

 

[photonboy]

Vulkan, not Vulcan.

Here's what you want: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_470_STRIX_OC/24.html

So GTX1060 is roughly 37% faster (129/94) in THOSE games but the RX-470 will close the gap by perhaps 15%+ on AVERAGE in the future, but nobody is certain.

(closing the gap only applies to NEWER DX12/Vulkan games and not DX11 games or previous already made)

Yes, some titles the RX-470 may even match the GTX1060 but we should consider the average.

The RX-470 is a great card, and of course you can do a lot with tweaking so there's no WRONG information. Just look at that info and go with what feels right.

*Make sure it's an 8GB RX-470, not 4GB.

 

[Ilya_15]

Vulkan, not Vulcan.

Here's what you want: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_470_STRIX_OC/24.html

So GTX1060 is roughly 37% faster (129/94) in THOSE games but the RX-470 will close the gap by perhaps 10%+ on AVERAGE in the future, but nobody is certain.

Yes, some titles the RX-470 may even match the GTX1060 but we should consider the average.

The RX-470 is a great card, and of course you can do a lot with tweaking so there's no WRONG information. Just look at that info and go with what feels right.

*Make sure it's an 8GB RX-470, not 4GB.

If it's an 8gb, it won't make sense to buy it as it will then only become $30 cheaper. I'm just wondering if the $80 saving is worth the 30%. Maybe I'll wait for a good offer for a gtx 1060. I saw one for $309 but it literally went out of stock in 1 hour. Thanks for your answer

 

[king3pj]

How much is the 4GB 480 there? In the US the 470's pricing is pretty bad. Most of them are only about $10 cheaper than the 4GB RX 480.

If the pricing is similar where you live that is the choice I would make. It should hold it's own against a 6GB 1060 in most games.

 

[Ilya_15]

How much is the 4GB 480 there? In the US the 470's pricing is pretty bad. Most of them are only about $10 cheaper than the 4GB RX 480.

If the pricing is similar where you live that is the choice I would make. It should hold it's own against a 6GB 1060 in most games.

Ok so I can get a 4gb Rx 470 for $250, 8gb Rx 480 for $310 (and for the 4gb) (it has the stock cooler though which I don't like and the next model costs $350) gtx 1060 3gb 299 and gtx 1060 6gb $330. I looked into buying from us but exchange rate makes it the same shit just longer wait time. Thanks for your reply

 

[degreesofuncertainty]

Ok so I can get a 4gb Rx 470 for $250, 8gb Rx 480 for $310 (and for the 4gb) (it has the stock cooler though which I don't like and the next model costs $350) gtx 1060 3gb 299 and gtx 1060 6gb $330. I looked into buying from us but exchange rate makes it the same shit just longer wait time. Thanks for your reply

the 470 looks good considering u only intend to play on 1080p or rarely try a higher resolution.. but if u intend to play on 1440p sometime in the near future then go for 480 or 1060 (6gb)

 

[Ilya_15]

Ok so I can get a 4gb Rx 470 for $250, 8gb Rx 480 for $310 (and for the 4gb) (it has the stock cooler though which I don't like and the next model costs $350) gtx 1060 3gb 299 and gtx 1060 6gb $330. I looked into buying from us but exchange rate makes it the same shit just longer wait time. Thanks for your reply

the 470 looks good considering u only intend to play on 1080p or rarely try a higher resolution.. but if u intend to play on 1440p sometime in the near future then go for 480 or 1060 (6gb)

I have a gtx 950 right now, so maybe I should just wait it out and buy a gtx 1060 when it's cheaper or do you guys think Rx 470 is a sufficient upgrade? I don't really want to upgrade in the next 2-3 years and still play games 1080p 60fps even at low I don't mind.

 

[uglyduckling81]

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/625823/HIS-Radeon-RX480-iceQX2-OC-4GB-GDDR5
HIS Radeon RX480 iceQX2 OC 4GB GDDR5 $329 with a free copy of Civ 6 which is US$80 in Aus i'm pretty sure.

edit: I take back my recommendation of a 980. 1060 is trading blows with it now with current drivers.

Or for $305 what about a 4GB RX480 from the US including shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131706

 

[Ilya_15]

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/625823/HIS-Radeon-RX480-iceQX2-OC-4GB-GDDR5
HIS Radeon RX480 iceQX2 OC 4GB GDDR5 $329 with a free copy of Civ 6 which is US$80 in Aus i'm pretty sure.

edit: I take back my recommendation of a 980. 1060 is trading blows with it now with current drivers.

Or for $305 what about a 4GB RX480 from the US including shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131706

What's the point of getting 4gb Rx 480 for that money if I can get a 470 for 80 cheaper. There's only like 5 fps difference.

 

[Ilya_15]

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/625823/HIS-Radeon-RX480-iceQX2-OC-4GB-GDDR5
HIS Radeon RX480 iceQX2 OC 4GB GDDR5 $329 with a free copy of Civ 6 which is US$80 in Aus i'm pretty sure.

edit: I take back my recommendation of a 980. 1060 is trading blows with it now with current drivers.

Or for $305 what about a 4GB RX480 from the US including shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131706

What's the point of getting 4gb Rx 480 for that money if I can get a 470 for 80 cheaper. There's only like 5 fps difference.

 

[king3pj]

I have a gtx 950 right now, so maybe I should just wait it out and buy a gtx 1060 when it's cheaper or do you guys think Rx 470 is a sufficient upgrade? I don't really want to upgrade in the next 2-3 years and still play games 1080p 60fps even at low I don't mind.

The 470 is a decent upgrade over the 950. Looks like it's about a 40% improvement on average. The specific games you play make a difference though. The RX 480 or GTX 1060 will obviously be a bigger improvement.

 

[Ilya_15]

I have a gtx 950 right now, so maybe I should just wait it out and buy a gtx 1060 when it's cheaper or do you guys think Rx 470 is a sufficient upgrade? I don't really want to upgrade in the next 2-3 years and still play games 1080p 60fps even at low I don't mind.

The 470 is a decent upgrade over the 950. Looks like it's about a 40% improvement on average. The specific games you play make a difference though. The RX 480 or GTX 1060 will obviously be a bigger improvement.

Hmm looking at those benchmarks considering a gtx 1060 3gb it's $30 extra over the 470. 6gb model is like 60 on top of the 30

 

[king3pj]

In most games the performance difference between a 3GB and 6GB 1060 is very small. Both should beat the RX 470 in almost every game. That is part of the reason I don't recommend the RX 470 to people shopping with US prices. Like I said earlier, the RX 470 is usually only about $10 cheaper than the 1060 3GB and 480 4GB here.

Keep in mind that if a game is a real VRAM hog the 1060 3GB can suffer. The only game that I am aware of where we can see this happening in a benchmark is Rise of the Tomb Raider though.

 

[Ilya_15]

In most games the performance difference between a 3GB and 6GB 1060 is very small. Both should beat the RX 470 in almost every game. That is part of the reason I don't recommend the RX 470 to people shopping with US prices. Like I said earlier, the RX 470 is usually only about $10 cheaper than the 1060 3GB and 480 4GB here.

Keep in mind that if a game is a real VRAM hog the 1060 3GB can suffer. The only game that I am aware of where we can see this happening in a benchmark is Rise of the Tomb Raider though.

www.babeltechreviews.com/evga-gtx-1060-3gb-vs-red-devil-rx-470/5/

Rx 470 is quite Close to the 1060. $35 cheaper than 3gb and just under $100 cheaper than 6gb. I'm tempted to take the plunge. I'm scared it won't perform as well in a year or so.

 

[king3pj]

I think the 1060 3GB is worth the extra $30. Like I said, Rise of the Tomb Raider is the only game I know of where we can see a real performance hit in benchmarks because of the 3GB of VRAM. The 1060 3GB will give you GTX 980 level performance in most games while the 470 is usually a little below a GTX 970.

The 3GB of VRAM could become more of a problem in more games in the future but tweaking the settings a little bit should get you back up to 60 FPS while still having good visuals. If you click this link and then scroll down past the videos to the performance chart you will see what I'm talking about.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-vs-6gb-review

In Rise of the Tomb Raider if you turn the textures down from "very high" to "high" the framerate on a 1060 3GB jumps up to 74 FPS and is only 1 FPS behind the 6GB 1060 and the game will still look great. The "very high" texture setting is what causes the game to be a VRAM hog. The rest of the settings can be left on very high.

The point is that the 3GB 1060 might require some settings tweaks on games in the future because of it's VRAM but I think the 470 will need tweaks more often because it is less powerful.

 

[Ilya_15]

I think the 1060 3GB is worth the extra $30. Like I said, Rise of the Tomb Raider is the only game I know of where we can see a real performance hit in benchmarks because of the 3GB of VRAM. The 1060 3GB will give you GTX 980 level performance in most games while the 470 is usually a little below a GTX 970.

The 3GB of VRAM could become more of a problem in more games in the future but tweaking the settings a little bit should get you back up to 60 FPS while still having good visuals. If you click this link and then scroll down past the videos to the performance chart you will see what I'm talking about.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-vs-6gb-review

In Rise of the Tomb Raider if you turn the textures down from "very high" to "high" the framerate on a 1060 3GB jumps up to 74 FPS and is only 1 FPS behind the 6GB 1060 and the game will still look great. The "very high" texture setting is what causes the game to be a VRAM hog. The rest of the settings can be left on very high.

The point is that the 3GB 1060 might require some settings tweaks on games in the future because of it's VRAM but I think the 470 will need tweaks more often because it is less powerful.

Alright man thanks for all your help, I'll have to consider, direct x and vulkan + more vram for Rx 470 and more power with the 1060. Maybe I'll wait it out, cheers.

 

[king3pj]

To be clear, Vulkan, DirectX 12, and the extra 1GB of VRAM still don't typically put the 470 above the 1060 3GB. At best it usually brings it up to the same level, with the exception of Rise of the Tomb Raider. In DirectX 11 games, which are still the vast majority, the 1060 3GB is significantly better.

Doom is the only major, graphically demanding release that supports Vulkan. The 470 sees a big improvement in Vulkan versus running the game in OpenGL but it is still below a 1060 3GB.

Hitman is a DirectX 12 and the 1060 3GB and RX 470 are essentially equal.

Both cards will be a nice upgrade from your 950 and neither is really a bad choice. I think the 1060 3GB is a little better choice but I don't think you will really regret going with either card. Sticking with your 950 is also a totally valid option. I'll leave it at that.

 

[uglyduckling81]

5fps is the minimum really you would see as an increase from a 480 to a 470. Many titles you will see 15fps or more increase.
10fps is actually a fairly significant increase. Keeping your lowest frame over 40 instead of 30 for instance.
I wouldn't go lower than a 480 or a 6gb 1060 myself.
You only have to look at the 780ti with 3gb a memory to see how much that low memory count is hurting it now. And it was the top dog only a few years ago which is how long you are talking about keeping your card for.
If your absolutely strapped then go with what you can afford, but I would sell something you no longer use or save for longer to get that extra memory.
Gumtree has some 8GB 480's for $350 or so, but the 6gb 1060's on there are more than new ones.