Ryzen 3 1200 or 2200G

[jonathani05]

I have a really crappy PC, it has an AMD Athlon II x2 220 4gb ddr3 ram and a 250GB HDD. I'm planning on building a new PC but i dont have a lot of money so i decided to build a pretty low end PC and upgrade it as my needs grow. The specs will be
Ryzen 3 1200 or 2200G
4GB DDR4 ram (to be updated to 8GB as soon as RAM prices drop)
Gigabyte A320M-S2H
WD 120GB M.2 SSD
WD 500GB hdd

I wanted to ask if it is better to buy the Ryzen 1200 and some crappy GPU ( like GT710) until i save for a 1050ti (or 1150ti if realesed by the time i save the money) or buy the 2200G and use it with Vega 8 IGPU.

The thing i want to know is which of theese two is better. Also if you have some other reccomendations feel free to say.

Thanks

 

[mdd1963]

If you are content to play at 720/768P at modest settings, then the R3-2200G or R5-2400G will do nicely, saving you from buying a GPU until a bit later...

 

[jonathani05]

Actually gaming is not a huge factor for me. I'm intrested which one of theese will give better CPU performance?

 

[TJ Hooker]

The 2200G will offer stronger CPU performance, unless you get a B350 mobo and overclock in which case they'd be about the same. The 2200G only has 8 PCIe lanes for the GPU, but for the kind of GPUs you're likely to pair with it that shouldn't be an issue.

 

[dontlistentome]

Be aware that to use the 2200g graphics you will need to use some system ram for it. So if you buy 4gb DDR4 and dedicated 1gb to the graphics, you really only have 3gb to use for Windows and your programs.

The new computer will still run circles around your old one, but it will be hobbled.

In addition, to take advantage of the graphics you'll want dual channel(2 sticks) at 2933mhz or faster.

Of course, if you're not gaming and your programs do not require a lot of video memory, you can dedicate less than 1gb to the graphics. Also, a 320 motherboard might need a bios update to use the 2200g.

If it were my choice I'd go with the 2200g and use the onboard graphics. If you use ram hungry programs you will want to start with 8gb ram, 2x4gb. I would skip the SSD for now in order to get 8gb ram if that's what it takes.

 

[jonathani05]

You menan the 1200 will offer better CPU performance?

 

[jonathani05]

And if i install 8GB and dedicade 2GB to the GPU you say that only 6GB will be usable to OS?

 

[CountMike]

With those processors you don't have to dedicate much memory, OS will take as much as needed anyway. Faster, dual channel RAM would help GPU and CPU performance.

 

[jonathani05]

So 2 sticks 4GB 2133Mhz will be enough, and plus if i'm not using a GPU do you think that i can save on the PSU?

 

[CountMike]

That system would barely top 350W but don't save on PSU quality.

 

[jonathani05]

I meant on PSU wattage no quality.
I know that i can destroy my other parts with a cheap PSU.

 

[CountMike]

Got to think about future as you said you hope to upgrade GPU, so I wouldn't go for anything bellow 500W, they last long and no use having to buy another one later. Lower power ones are not much cheaper anyway.

 

[jonathani05]

I found an EVGA 500W psu.

 

[CountMike]

Good.

 

[TJ Hooker]

You menan the 1200 will offer better CPU performance?

Nope, I meant the 2200G will offer better CPU performance. Both are 4 core/4 thread CPUs. But the 2200G has 3.5/3.7 GHz base/boost clocks, whereas the 1200 is only 3.1/3.4 GHz. The 1200 has double the L3 cache size, but I'm not really sure what impact that would have on performance.

So 2 sticks 4GB 2133Mhz will be enough

You typically want ~3000 MHz RAM to get the most out of Ryzen CPUs. Although if that would be a large difference in price compared to 2133 it may not be worth it.