Ryzen 5 1600 vs 1400

[Azaren]

I'm really tight with my budget to around 1000$, this is my build. I was wondering what I should get, either the Ryzen 5 1600 or the 1400 version. What's the difference and how big is the impact when it comes to FPS in gaming. Big FPS increase for 60$? Or it isn't worth it if I get the 1600 for 60$ more? Does the 1400 have a decent CPU or should I get another one? Also if there is something that could be cheaper in this build, please tell me 🙁 Thanks!

Build : https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Azaren/saved/KvPwP6

Thank you 😀 !

 

[Barty1884]

At stock, you're not going to see much of a difference between the 1400 and 1600.
Both warrant some overclocking though, with the 1400 being the lowest binned chips, the 1600 should come out ahead 99.99% of the time.

The 1600 will also be beneficial in multi-tasking and multi-threaded workloads.

Personally, I'd look at the 1600 as the minimum worth buying in the Ryzen lineup but, for strictly gaming, for the price, the 1400 is a solid option.


As a side note, $430 is a horrible price to buy a 1060 at.
The MSRP is $299.99 and you can buy a Founders Edition direct from nVidia at this price:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-store/

For reference, paying $430 for a 1060 makes absolutely zero sense..... when a 1080 can be had for $500.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/49YWGX/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-8gb-duke-oc-video-card-gtx-1080-duke-8g-oc

 

[clutchc]

I agree. Unless you need the extra cores/threads, the 1400 is a decent gaming CPU with its 4C/8T.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1400/3919vs3922

 

[Azaren]

At stock, you're not going to see much of a difference between the 1400 and 1600.
Both warrant some overclocking though, with the 1400 being the lowest binned chips, the 1600 should come out ahead 99.99% of the time.

The 1600 will also be beneficial in multi-tasking and multi-threaded workloads.

Personally, I'd look at the 1600 as the minimum worth buying in the Ryzen lineup but, for strictly gaming, for the price, the 1400 is a solid option.


As a side note, $430 is a horrible price to buy a 1060 at.
The MSRP is $299.99 and you can buy a Founders Edition direct from nVidia at this price:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-store/

For reference, paying $430 for a 1060 makes absolutely zero sense..... when a 1080 can be had for $500.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/49YWGX/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-8gb-duke-oc-video-card-gtx-1080-duke-8g-oc

Thank you, I'm probably getting the Ryzen 5 1400, and also about the GPU, that's just a version of it just to see if it goes with motherboard etc, I'm actually buying it from my country for 345$ which is around 300 euros

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Azaren : "How many years will this build last? Does the CPU bottleneck the GPU?"

The title explains what I need to know ! ... Build : https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Azaren/saved/KvPwP6

I want to play big games such as GTA 5, COD, Rocket League, Overwatch, etc at ultra settings 1080p on an ultrawide monitor c: , how long will it take me until I get like down to 60 fps with like everything Low... I'm looking to keep this pc for like 4 years without upgrading... Is it possible?

Thanks & have a great day 😀 !

How long do you think the 1400 with 4-cores last to run games smoothly until I have to upgrade to a better one?

Nobody really knows how long that will be as it will depend on the games and how they are designed. Game developers design games around the hardware that is available. 6-core processors are becoming mainstream and HBM2 is also making it's way in to more GPUs. So it would be difficult to say for sure.

Nobody really knows how long that will be as it will depend on the games and how they are designed. Game developers design games around the hardware that is available. 6-core processors are becoming mainstream and HBM2 is also making it's way in to more GPUs. So it would be difficult to say for sure.

So you think I should spend the extra 50$ for the 1600? I was getting it but I'm tight to my budget, but now that you've said all this I think I'm switching back to the 1600.

Others would push the 6-core a little more than I would, but it certainly wouldn't hurt and the 1600 is said to be the best value/performance among the Ryzen processors.

 

[Azaren]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Azaren : "Are All Of These Parts Compatible? [ Gaming PC ]"

This is my build and I'd like to know if everything is compatible and that nothing bottlenecks something else, etc...

1) AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Processor with Wraith Spire Cooler (YD1600BBAEBOX)

2) Seasonic M12II 620 BRONZE ; SS-620GM2 80Plus Power Supply

3) Seagate 2TB BarraCuda SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Hard Drive (ST2000DM006)

4) G.SKILL 16GB (2 x 8GB) Ripjaws V Series DDR4 PC4-22400 2800MHz 288-Pin for Intel Z170 Platform Desktop Memory Model F4-2800C17D-16GVR

5) ASRock AB350 PRO4 ATX Motherboard

6) Corsair Carbide SPEC-04 Mid-Tower Gaming Case - Black and Red - CC-9011107-WW

7) [ Case FAN ] : Cooler Master SickleFlow 120 - Sleeve Bearing 120mm 3-Pin LED Silent Fan for Computer Cases, CPU Coolers, and Radiators - Red

8) GTX 1060, link : https://www.scanmalta.com/newstore/6gb-gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-gtx1060-windforce-2-oc.html

Thanks & have a great day !

 

[bignastyid]

Please keep your build discussion to 1 thread.

 

[Azaren]

Please keep your build discussion to 1 thread.

This thread Ryzen 5 1600 vs 1400 is 100% different in all ways than if my parts are compatible, why was it merged??

 

[bignastyid]

Please keep your build discussion to 1 thread.

This thread Ryzen 5 1600 vs 1400 is 100% different in all ways than if my parts are compatible, why was it merged??

Because it's on the same topic of what you should put in your upcoming build.

 

[madmatt30]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Azaren : "Does everything match and is compatible with each other and works fine ?"

This is my build and I'd like to know if everything is compatible and that nothing bottlenecks something else, etc...

1) AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Processor with Wraith Spire Cooler (YD1600BBAEBOX)

2) Seasonic M12II 620 BRONZE ; SS-620GM2 80Plus Power Supply

3) Seagate 2TB BarraCuda SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Hard Drive (ST2000DM006)

4) G.SKILL 16GB (2 x 8GB) Ripjaws V Series DDR4 PC4-22400 2800MHz 288-Pin for Intel Z170 Platform Desktop Memory Model F4-2800C17D-16GVR

5) ASRock AB350 PRO4 ATX Motherboard

6) Corsair Carbide SPEC-04 Mid-Tower Gaming Case - Black and Red - CC-9011107-WW

7) [ Case FAN ] : Cooler Master SickleFlow 120 - Sleeve Bearing 120mm 3-Pin LED Silent Fan for Computer Cases, CPU Coolers, and Radiators - Red

8) GTX 1060, link : https://www.scanmalta.com/newstore/6gb-gigabyte-nvidia-...

Thanks & have a great day !

Solid build mate , ram will be limited to 2666mhz though.

This is not a big deal but if native 2666mhz ram is available cheaper there is no point paying extra for 2800.

 

[madmatt30]

Got to disagree , the 1600 is absolutely 100% worth the extra $60.

The cooler alone is worth an extra $10 , the extra cache per ccx , the higher stock boost & the extra cores & threads are easily worth another $50

You HAVE to overclock a 1400 at least minimally to push a gtx 1060 properly.
You wouldn't have to touch the 1600.

 

[Azaren]

Got to disagree , the 1600 is absolutely 100% worth the extra $60.

The cooler alone is worth an extra $10 , the extra cache per ccx , the higher stock boost & the extra cores & threads are easily worth another $50

You HAVE to overclock a 1400 at least minimally to push a gtx 1060 properly.
You wouldn't have to touch the 1600.

Any cheaper RAM this is durable and good for my build and most of all that you're sure it's compatible with the parts ? Thank you for your answer by the way 😀 !

 

[madmatt30]

Got to disagree , the 1600 is absolutely 100% worth the extra $60.

The cooler alone is worth an extra $10 , the extra cache per ccx , the higher stock boost & the extra cores & threads are easily worth another $50

You HAVE to overclock a 1400 at least minimally to push a gtx 1060 properly.
You wouldn't have to touch the 1600.

Any cheaper RAM this is durable and good for my build and most of all that you're sure it's compatible with the parts ? Thank you for your answer by the way 😀 !

without a direct link to where youre buying from impossible to recommend ram mate.

Absolutely go out of your way to stick with the ryzen 1600 though is my advice.
There is a 10-20% performance difference on some games now from initial release thats due to the direct halving of the cache rather than core numbers or actual clock speeds.

You can save money by dropping the psu to a seasonic s12 520w non modular (should be $20-25 cheaper for starters)

 

[Azaren]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Azaren : "Should I trust Pcpartpicker?"

I'd like to build a PC, but for compatibility with the parts I don't know if I should trust pcpartpicker. This is my build on it, I'd like to re-check and maybe anyone could tell me if it 100% is compatible and no bottlenecks, etc, and that everything is fine.

This is my build : https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Azaren/saved/KvPwP6

Thanks & have a great day !