Question RYZEN VS INTEL

[NoRageNR]

Hi Guys, I'm now building a gaming desktop. But for the CPU, Intel I9-9900K/ I9-9900KS or AMD Ryzen have their pros and cons. I'm not sure which CPU I should choose to get the best performance out of it. Can I get some suggestions and opinions from you guys? Thank you!!

 

[NoRageNR]

If you are not extreme overclocking, ignore the warning and just connect the single CPU 8 pin.

Why does your post link to a bunch of out of stock parts?

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor | $678.68 @ Newegg Singapore
CPU Cooler | ARCTIC Freezer 34 CO CPU Cooler | $80.61 @ Newegg Singapore
Motherboard | ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard | $262.31 @ Newegg Singapore
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $262.43 @ Newegg Singapore
Storage | Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $130.43 @ Newegg Singapore
Video Card | Asus GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB ROG Strix Gaming OC Video Card | $1961.47 @ Newegg Singapore
Case | NZXT H510i ATX Mid Tower Case | $233.59 @ Newegg Singapore
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $215.65 @ Newegg Singapore
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $3825.17
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-05 19:13 +08+0800 |

Does this change in parts affect the performance? Like it decreases the performance or increases? And I'm actually going for a 4k monitor.

 

[OllympianGamer]

Just a point for the 3900x, it runs hot. I'd want at least a decent 240mm aio on it. Do you "need" one? No but if you have the money in your budget I would recommend it.

 

[NoRageNR]

Just a point for the 3900x, it runs hot. I'd want at least a decent 240mm aio on it. Do you "need" one? No but if you have the money in your budget I would recommend it.

240mm aio, what do you suggest?

 

[OllympianGamer]

240mm aio, what do you suggest?

Well I was going to buy a Nzxt Kraken for mine but the guys in a fairly reputable shop in the uk talked me out of it saying they have a lot of returns with them and the software is garbage and needed for control so I just grabbed a h100x. I have had quite a few corsair aios and they always run like clockwork with no issues. Depends if you want rgb though.

 

[LordVile]

So, what you are meaning is that it will work if you are not extreme overclocking?
Btw, I have edited what you suggested for my pc parts:
https://sg.pcpartpicker.com/list/R2pkq3

Swap the memory back the fastest you should go on Ryzen is 3600 as after I think it's 3733 MHZ the ratio with the infinity fabric in the CPU changes and lowers performance.

It will work fine if you are not putting stupid Overclocks on yes, I would recommend against manually overclocking and let the CPU boost itself.

 

[NoRageNR]

Swap the memory back the fastest you should go on Ryzen is 3600 as after I think it's 3733 MHZ the ratio with the infinity fabric in the CPU changes and lowers performance.

It will work fine if you are not putting stupid Overclocks on yes, I would recommend against manually overclocking and let the CPU boost itself.

Manually Overclocking, like msi afterburner?

 

[NoRageNR]

https://sg.pcpartpicker.com/list/sLX7Mc
Is this ok?

 

[LordVile]

Manually Overclocking, like msi afterburner?

Manually Overclocking the CPU, the GPU is powered by a seperate cable and is overclocked in software on the desktop.

You overclock the CPU by using either the BIOS or AMDs Ryzen Master software (dunno how good this is) but you don’t need this on AMD, on intel for the best performance I would say you should overclock the CPU because you’re going Blue Team for the frequency advantage, for AMD not really for gaming.

 

[LordVile]

https://sg.pcpartpicker.com/list/sLX7Mc
Is this ok?

Swap out the bloody RAM! XD it’s 4000Mhz which will tank your performance on AMD, do NOT go higher than 3600MHz, also get 2 sticks of 16GB not 4 of 8GB, leaves you room to expand later also the case is significantly worse than what I suggested and the cooler although good isn’t by ASUS so RBG syncing will be more difficult.

 

[NoRageNR]

https://sg.pcpartpicker.com/list/wdynXv

 

[NoRageNR]

For ryzen 9 3900x discrete graphics card is required. What does it mean?

 

[OllympianGamer]

For ryzen 9 3900x discrete graphics card is required. What does it mean?

The cpu doesnt have onboard graphics/integrated graphics so you cant run it on it's own and need a seperate graphics card.

 

[LordVile]

For ryzen 9 3900x discrete graphics card is required. What does it mean?

You need a GPU for it to output a display, remember to plug your HDMI or DP connector into the GPU not the motherboard 😉

 

[NoRageNR]

The cpu doesnt have onboard graphics/integrated graphics so you cant run it on it's own and need a seperate graphics card.

But I have
MSI RTX 2080ti 11GB Gaming X Trio,
Is it ok??

 

[NoRageNR]

You need a GPU for it to output a display, remember to plug your HDMI or DP connector into the GPU not the motherboard 😉

Wait, so this is different from the other cpus?

 

[OllympianGamer]

But I have
MSI RTX 2080ti 11GB Gaming X Trio,
Is it ok??

Yeah man that's cool, the 2080 ti is your discrete gpu. Nice card btw, wish I'd bought one.

 

[NoRageNR]

Yeah man that's cool, the 2080 ti is your discrete gpu. Nice card btw, wish I'd bought one.

Can I ask, Thermal Paste VS Thermal Grease, which is better?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Can I ask, Thermal Paste VS Thermal Grease, which is better?

They are the same thing.

The terms can be used interchangably.

 

[NoRageNR]

https://sg.pcpartpicker.com/list/C4BVf9
Is this good enough?

 

[NoRageNR]

Guys, what do we do when we have a AIO cooler for CPU. Do we connect the AIO Cooler to the CPU before placing it into the case or do we connect the AIO Cooler to the CPU after we place it into the case?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Follow the instructions that come with your particular AIO.

 

[NoRageNR]

Does any of my parts comes with a DIsplayport cable? Or do i need to buy one separately?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Your monitor would be the only one that would come with a display cable, and even then its a maybe. I would buy one

 

[NoRageNR]

Should I buy a kit of 4 or kit of 2 memory for best performance?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Either or.

Ryzen 3000 tends to perform slightly better with 4 sticks, however 2 will give you more slots to upgrade in future