Samsung May Have Not Tried to Copy the iPhone

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[citation][nom]Be0wulf22[/nom]But then they complain that even though Apple is technically an American company, it's all built in China. It's the same way (yet inversed) with auto makers. The buy American crowd says to buy Ford...even though many(most?)of them are built in Mexico. And when I tell them my Toyota was built in Indiana they say "oh, but the money all goes back to Japan". If my money for something built here goes back over seas, doesn't the money for thing built over seas come back here (example: Apple)?[/citation]

Thank you, I'm glad someone else out there seeing through this American company versus foreign company. I'm as patriot as anyone out there, therefore I like to give credit to those REAL American company, not some fake ass, tax cheating companies like Apple.
 
Well of course they didnt offer up the creative information. Lawyers are paid to skirt the truth when it hinders their case, avoid it outright, or make it look like something entirely different than what it is. Lawsuits/Trails have nothing to do with right or wrong and everything to do with who is better able to present their version that is more favorable for them and more likely to be chosen by the majority.

That sentence could have been right before or after one they did use and they would have done everything they could to hide it or change the meaning of it so that it still appeared as though they copied Apple outright.
 
BeOwulf22, you can also point out to your buy American crowd that if it is a publicly traded company that money goes all over the world, it does not stay in America. Dividends are paid to the stockholders whether they are in America, Canada or Asia. Money is invested in the communities that house the plants and assembly lines, not the nation that the corporate headquarters sits in.

I had this fight with my union family before. I pointed out how my Honda is more American made than the Dodge/Chrysler car I was also considering and they came back with the whole "money stays" argument.
 
[citation][nom]robochump[/nom]Wow, you really believe that?!? Sad on the ignorance on here. Apple is a US company that develops products through R&D, engineering, software development, etc, etc mostly in the US and of course locations around the World. China is a manufacturing giant that nearly ALL electronic companies take full advantage of. Again amazing how iHaters think only Apple use Chinese assemblers...lol.[/citation]

Of course we all know most electronics are manufactured in China(Except maybe Samsung/LG stuff made in Korea). Since you got that fact right, stop calling Apple American. Samsung is as American or more American than Apple.
R&D, lol, you mean buying up other companies and claiming the credit? haha.

I used to be an Apple lover, iPhone 3gs, 2011 MBA 13.3" with "perfect" trackpad and iPad 2 with ~10 hours of operations. Too bad my morale side won't allow me to support assholes like Apple any more.

I gave away my iPad 2, retired 3gs and worked on my HP windows 7 over MBA 13.3"
I'm currently having fun with SGS3 😉 no regrets. No more "You're holding it wrong" or "You're syncing it wrong". Go Samsung, you deserve all the credits. I wish other Android OEM will just copy Samsung and come out with decent flagships.

-Say NO to bully, say NO to Apple

*ps: all multi-corporations are evil, it's your job to pick the least evil one :)
 
[citation][nom]robochump[/nom]Lol. So before and after iPhone cam out pics of Samsung and most smart phones were drastically different. This is more Samsung damage control. Feel free to thumb me down but understand companies like Samsung have no problems trying to bury US companies and Samsung is far from innocent.http://itlounge.eu/pre-iphone-desi [...] ent-trial/[/citation]

Are you like every other Apple iSheep and just look at the first picture or did you actually scroll down. The pics further down indicate Apple, like it has done historically, just copied someone else's design and sold it as there own.
 
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nah they didn't copy. It was just a coincidence. Not an Apple fan boy here.
 
Tbh I think most of these phones are virtually the same. The only different things I can see is that one uses Android (which is completely different from ios) and the terrible Apple maps the i-stuff's use. I don't own a phone that has is more recent than 4 years, as I don't have a need really and the SGS3 is far to expensive, now matter how much I like it!

Obviously the CPU is more powerful and slightly faster etc in some of them but really they all do the same thing except do it slightly better or worse.
 
[citation][nom]luciferano[/nom]I'm pretty sure that so long as a company is a successful patent troll, most investors wouldn't mind.[/citation]
Being as 1 apple stock is worth as much as a phone, it's only be the richest 1% that even own any substantial amount of apple stock, and they're betting the lower/middle class will remain sold on this marketing strategy/brand and the lawsuits are just investments to protect their investments.
 
[citation][nom]LightningStryk17[/nom]Except that they sell millions of real products every years.[/citation]
No thier stocks have dropped because investors see apples latest creation as the start of its downfall
 
[citation][nom]amdwilliam1985[/nom]Of course we all know most electronics are manufactured in China(Except maybe Samsung/LG stuff made in Korea). Since you got that fact right, stop calling Apple American. Samsung is as American or more American than Apple. R&D, lol, you mean buying up other companies and claiming the credit? haha.I used to be an Apple lover, iPhone 3gs, 2011 MBA 13.3" with "perfect" trackpad and iPad 2 with ~10 hours of operations. Too bad my morale side won't allow me to support assholes like Apple any more.I gave away my iPad 2, retired 3gs and worked on my HP windows 7 over MBA 13.3"I'm currently having fun with SGS3 no regrets. No more "You're holding it wrong" or "You're syncing it wrong". Go Samsung, you deserve all the credits. I wish other Android OEM will just copy Samsung and come out with decent flagships.-Say NO to bully, say NO to Apple*ps: all multi-corporations are evil, it's your job to pick the least evil one[/citation]
you mean like the SGS3 murdering LG optmus G, and the New nexus made by LG, unfortunately Samsung has ecome apple also, thier innovation is not anywhere near as good as qualcomm and LG (LG haters are the people that dont own the new HD 4x or Optimus G)
 
[citation][nom]leeashton[/nom]No thier stocks have dropped because investors see apples latest creation as the start of its downfall[/citation]
Now it's time to sell your Apple stocks before the bubble blows up
 
@Lockhrt999
I am sure that on this particular phone they obviously copied Apple's design. The issue is that of the damages awarded which was unbelieveable! I mean, sure, they do look similar, but the issue is if this similar looking device would have ever stolen business from Apple, or caused brand damage.

Now I am not sure about you, but when I purchase something with a relatively hefty price tag, and that I am going to be 'stuck' with for a few years, I tend to look for it by name. Nobody could possibly pick up a box for a samsung device, or even order it online, without it being painfully obvious what you are buying. Or when walking into a phone store I would ask the clerk there for an iPhone or a Samsung, and they would have enough intelligent life to know the difference between the two.

Again; Sure, block the product. They are extremely similar, and by that alone there is a case to keep the product from being sold, but to be awarded damages there ought to be some proof that they were trying to sell this phone as an iPhone instead of an all-around better android phone that happens to have a similar body. There was no deception, so there should be no award.
 
[citation][nom]lockhrt999[/nom]nah they didn't copy. It was just a coincidence. Not an Apple fan boy here.[/citation]
Yeah... let's just ignore that that Samsung phone looks a lot like the Samsung F700, a design that was done *before* the iPhone ever showed its face. No way Samsung was iterating on the design of their earlier phone that looks almost identical. Nah, totally a copy of the iPhone. *eye roll*
 
I raise 2 points:
1) There is only so much you can Innovate (from the aspect of physical appearance) without completely cluster****ing the entire thing (See link for High Heels "Innovations": http://shine.yahoo.com/the-thread-how-to/scariest-shoes-time-173900092.html ) I don't think I've ever seen a more perfect example of that point.

2) Why is it that basic cell phone design and button placement can be patented? And why didn't anyone get to patent the idea of a large metal object with 4 wheels and a rectangular footprint? To my knowledge, no one holds a patent for the basic design of a car (metal vehicle with 4 wheels). Because beyone a motorycle, that's the only efficient way to do it.

I say we all headover to kickstarter. We'll design a round, waterproof, shock proof smartphone that can function as a drink coaster or a hockey puck. And we'll make a tablet version that also functions as a Frisbee or a dinner plate. Or maybe a star shaped one that functions as a shuriken? You see my point right? The above comment about the Ford Focus and Chevy Cruze is a perfect example. Not trying to change the outside allows for more time and effort (and R&D funding) to go into the insides of the phone! People try to compart smartphones to computers, they're not even netbooks yet!
 
[citation][nom]Be0wulf22[/nom]Samsung gets a $1 billion judgement against them....and suddenly new documents are showing up that they didn't have the first time. Hmmm...highly suspect.[/citation]
Well, the documents were always there, otherwise apple wouldn't have been able to cherry-pick incriminating statements, edited from context, once read from the whole document you can see that samsung have been quoted out of context. Apple clearly manipulating here, but Samsungs fault that they didn't pull up Apple the second it was presented. Makes good to do it in an appeal however as instead of being ruled as inadmissable, is likely to be the foundation of an overturning and a countersue by Samsung.
 
[citation][nom]robochump[/nom]Wow, you really believe that?!? Sad on the ignorance on here. Apple is a US company that develops products through R&D, engineering, software development, etc, etc mostly in the US and of course locations around the World. China is a manufacturing giant that nearly ALL electronic companies take full advantage of. Again amazing how iHaters think only Apple use Chinese assemblers...lol.[/citation]
I think he's referring to the fact that Apple has no assembly facilities in the US, but Samsung does. And if I remember correctly Samsung also employs more US citizens than Apple.
 
They can also point out that Apple is now copying the screen size, so that just proves there are only so many ways you can create a device.
In the tablet space, Apple is also creating the iPad Mini. Is Apple copying Android manufactures and should be sued ? No, The form factor is trivial and only a wrapper for the technology that enables the form factor. So, Apple should either drop this case, or prepare to be sued for increasingly copying what the Android manufacturers are doing.
 
[citation][nom]halcyon[/nom]US labor too expensive for manufacturers to make a decent profit here. Folks working at McDonald's making french fries think they should make $15/hour.[/citation]

Well, that's because in this day and age, in the US, $15/hr isn't exactly a lot of money...

A fry cook shouldn't make that much, clearly. But there's loads of very physically demanding job's out there which will leave you feeling like you put in 8-12 hrs of slave labor for $8-9/hr. THAT is bullshit.
 
I know this is way off topic, but I don't understand why people think a fry cook shouldn't be able to afford living if he/she works 40 hrs a week. People want fries, they make them and did their service to society. Ever lived on 1000$ a month? If your in certain areas (I'm in seattle) its not very fun. I know plenty of people with college degrees working in restaurants because there is no work out there for them. I don't understand people...why shouldn't a fry cook make 15 an hr that's hardly enough to live on. Someday capitalism will be seen as just another dark age.
 
Folks need to make $15.00 dollers flipping burgers if their monthly rent is around $2000.00, and that is not a lot in New York city or Boston. Do not blame the people in those areas for making $15.00 because most of that is going to the landlord, power company, and food, after U sam gets his cut! If you live in an area where the cost of living is lower then maybe you can afford to work for less, just do a little math before you go saying $15.00 is more than penuts!
 
Apple, Samsung, anyone making phones that do not have Intel Inside are doing a good thing, The future is with HSA and multicore CPUs like Adapteva Parallella Open Computing Platform, running linux and/or using OpenCL, Intel charges too much for its chips, and more support for AMD the HSA foundation and other startups is necessary. The WinTel hold on the CPU market needs to end!
 
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