News Sanctioned China firms creating front companies to acquire AI chips, says report — new firms pop up faster than the U.S. ban hammer can strike

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Pierce2623

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Simple. Change H100 and up chips to a market that has to be approved before they can be sold rather than having to be disapproved. Anybody even slightly sketchy looking is out of luck. Sorry if that hurts Nvidia’s bottom line but AI doesn’t exist to enrich jacket boy.
 

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Amusing. The idea that Nvidia, Intel or AMD don't know who they are selling chips to is laughable.

Hey Nvidia, Nettrix here, please sell me 100,000 of your latest gpus for AI...

I promise that I'm not really a secret Chinese agency pretending to be a legitimate company.

I suspect that nVidia, and others just want the cash and don't care about anything else.
 

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Simple. Change H100 and up chips to a market that has to be approved before they can be sold rather than having to be disapproved. Anybody even slightly sketchy looking is out of luck. Sorry if that hurts Nvidia’s bottom line but AI doesn’t exist to enrich jacket boy.
Already are, I think.
Haven't been able to send most recent Intel processors to China since whenever - at least it was true like thirty years ago, whether it's been true the whole time since then I'm not certain.
 

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Let them have it. When the market realizes LLMs aren't very useful, the bubble will burst and everyone will be holding paperweights. Better for AMD and Nvidia to sell whatever they can before that happens.
 

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They fought this issue with Russia too during cold war(and now today). Even heavily sanctioned countries were always able to get our free market tech, and that long before the internet. There’s no feasible way to keep it out of their hands completely without hurting the market. The goal is just to make it more expensive and complicated. This is also where US intelligence needs to do their job. I’d start by repackaging all the defective intel cpus for these front companies. :)
 

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Already are, I think.
Haven't been able to send most recent Intel processors to China since whenever - at least it was true like thirty years ago, whether it's been true the whole time since then I'm not certain.
No. Currently, if you’re not on the “entity list” or based in China proper, then you’re in the clear with no major red flags. They should change it to system where you’re automatically disapproved unless you meet specific criteria.
 
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