Question SATA Y Data Cable ?

[Starnet]

Does anyone know or have recently stumbled across a Sata Y Data cable (not the power one)
I currently have an SSD/HDD duplicator that uses a really crappy and cheap drive assembly. Since its arranged where it actually shares the connector with both drives it only require a single power/data connector.
I want to swap it out with a much better Kingwin one that has a separate connector for the SSD and HDD. Since I know I would only be using one drive type at a time I need a Y cable for the Sata Data port. So far my searches have turned up nothing. Short of making my own cable or somehow connecting the ports together I am drawing a blank.

Any suggestions?

 

[Lutfij]

Y-cable for SATA data, impossible. Y-cable for SATA data cable, yes they exist but you might want to look up how adapters are the primary reason for firestarters.

I currently have an SSD/HDD duplicator that uses a really crappy and cheap drive assembly.
You should look for a reliably built drive dock.

 

[USAFRet]

Does anyone know or have recently stumbled across a Sata Y Data cable (not the power one)
I currently have an SSD/HDD duplicator that uses a really crappy and cheap drive assembly. Since its arranged where it actually shares the connector with both drives it only require a single power/data connector.
I want to swap it out with a much better Kingwin one that has a separate connector for the SSD and HDD. Since I know I would only be using one drive type at a time I need a Y cable for the Sata Data port. So far my searches have turned up nothing. Short of making my own cable or somehow connecting the ports together I am drawing a blank.

Any suggestions?

What are you actually wanting to do?

Not 'attach with a Y cable', but rather the basic function you are looking to do.

 

[evermorex76]

Y-cable for SATA data, impossible. Y-cable for SATA data cable, yes they exist but you might want to look up how adapters are the primary reason for firestarters.

I currently have an SSD/HDD duplicator that uses a really crappy and cheap drive assembly.
You should look for a reliably built drive dock.

What is the difference between "Y-cable for SATA data" and "Y-cable for SATA data cable"? There's no way for the data port to be split to two different drives. There's only one signal. SATA does have the capability, technically, to connect to a hub but it was never really implemented. Maybe that's what OP has? Model information would be useful here.

 

[Starnet]

The replacement dock has a sata data connector for both the SSD and HDD bays, since there will never be a device in both bays at the same time I need the sata data to appear on both ports, thus the need for a Y cable.

 

[SyCoREAPER]

What is the difference between "Y-cable for SATA data" and "Y-cable for SATA data cable"? There's no way for the data port to be split to two different drives. There's only one signal. SATA does have the capability, technically, to connect to a hub but it was never really implemented. Maybe that's what OP has? Model information would be useful here.

Probably meant power for the second based on the fire comment.

 

[evermorex76]

The replacement dock has a sata data connector for both the SSD and HDD bays, since there will never be a device in both bays at the same time I need the sata data to appear on both ports, thus the need for a Y cable.

You're asking for something that simply doesn't exist and never could.

 

[Starnet]

I don't believe I am getting my point across. The new bay is a dual connector bay the old one is a single connector. And since a drive will either be in the SSD orHDD, never in both at the same time I need the SATA data coming from the controller be available in both location. Thus a Y cable. And for those worried about fires, we are not talking about the power connector but ONLY the SATA Data connector.
I imagine what I will end up doing is simply connect the 2 separate SATA data connections points together by soldering the 2 connectors together. If there isn't a noise issue it should work perfectly. Again let me put emphasis on this statement, there will never be a drive in the SSD slot and the HDD slot at the same time.

Obliviously this would be much easier if there was such thing as a Y cable (much like the old Y power cables for the old style drives)

 

[USAFRet]

I don't believe I am getting my point across. The new bay is a dual connector bay the old one is a single connector. And since a drive will either be in the SSD orHDD, never in both at the same time I need the SATA data coming from the controller be available in both location. Thus a Y cable. And for those worried about fires, we are not talking about the power connector but ONLY the SATA Data connector.
I imagine what I will end up doing is simply connect the 2 separate SATA data connections points together by soldering the 2 connectors together. If there isn't a noise issue it should work perfectly. Again let me put emphasis on this statement, there will never be a drive in the SSD slot and the HDD slot at the same time.

Obliviously this would be much easier if there was such thing as a Y cable (much like the old Y power cables for the old style drives)

If there will only ever be one drive, why does this need a "Y"?

With a single cable, just disconnect from the SSD, connect the HDD.
And in reverse.

There are limits to 'how many times before it wears out', but that is likely a few years down the road.

 

[evermorex76]

I don't believe I am getting my point across. The new bay is a dual connector bay the old one is a single connector.

You're not getting your point across because it doesn't make sense. Can't you provide model numbers and brands for the two devices? Is this an internal device? It sounds like the Kingwin is just two separate removable bays that happen to be mounted together, with no electronics involved so each drive needs a data connection, while the current one is an actual duplicator with a single data connection to the host the same way a multi-bay USB enclosure would work.

I get what you want now, but there simply IS NO USE for a single data cable to be split the way you want it to be in normal operation so no, you're not going to find such a cable pre-made commercially. Maybe some rando piece being handmade by somebody for the 3 people in the world that might want it.

Do you not have enough SATA ports on the motherboard to have both connected at the same time? Is there a reason they MUST be connected to the same port?

 

[CountMike]

You didn't write a single word about your system but.....if there's only one SATA connector on the MB and you have a single PCIe bus free you can get an PCIe to SATA adapter that would give you more SATA ports. Then you cab use more disks simultaneously.

 

[Starnet]

We are talking about a drive duplicator and not a PC. It has 2 Sata connectors, one for the first bay, and the other for the second bay. The duplicator uses a single connector which is shared for both an SSD or and HDD is that is what i have. It is manufactured by Systor and while it does a good job cloning and copying drive the drive bays are pure trash and the single shared SATA connector is very flimsy and easily breaks.

If you want to see what it currently uses here's a picture:

https://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-Univ...YfwZCRPw9&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY&th=1

The bay I am trying to replace it with has a separate connector for each 2.5 and 3.5 drive.

 

[SkyNetRising]

The bay I am trying to replace it with has a separate connector for each 2.5 and 3.5 drive.

Just use two SATA data data cables (like a normal person). One per each drive.
Does motherboard of your pc have no free sata ports?

If there are no free sata ports, then you get them by installing additional pcie sata controller card.

And there is no such thing as SATA data Y-type cable. You can't find it.

But ... there is such thing as sata port multiplier. That would do, what you have imagined there.

 

[evermorex76]

We are talking about a drive duplicator and not a PC. It has 2 Sata connectors, one for the first bay, and the other for the second bay. The duplicator uses a single connector which is shared for both an SSD or and HDD is that is what i have. It is manufactured by Systor and while it does a good job cloning and copying drive the drive bays are pure trash and the single shared SATA connector is very flimsy and easily breaks.

If you want to see what it currently uses here's a picture:

https://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-Universal-Tray-Less-Backplane-Enclosure/dp/B00M3WNWB2

The bay I am trying to replace it with has a separate connector for each 2.5 and 3.5 drive.

Okay so the issue isn't ports in a PC at all. Since you kept referring to a bay enclosure, which is normally used in a PC, that was causing confusion. I think I understand now you're trying to replace the BAY in the duplicator, not the entire duplicator, which was not at all clear.

What is the one you're trying to replace it with? You just keep repeating things and finally showed a single component of the duplicator but no model information for the duplicator or the thing you want to replace it with. It sounds like the model you want to replace it with is simply two separate small bays squeezed into the space of a 5.25 inch bay, which is why it has two connectors. It's just a dumb bay adapter. (Your current one isn't intended for the same purpose so it has different connections.)

Are there not TWO of those Kingwin bays installed in the duplicator? The current Kingwin bay is only intended for a single drive to be used at a time, so of course there's only one connector on each one. You need a replacement bay that is also designed for only one drive at a time.

At any rate, you're simply not going to find a Y-cable like you want available for purchase. You can try to make one, and given the low speeds these duplicators seem to manage even a badly-made cable might work fine.

 

[evermorex76]

https://www.amazon.com/ORICO-Internal-Converter-Mounting-Interface/dp/B097BX3GNS looks like a really nice option. A little more money, but looks very well-built. (Looks like the old WD Velociraptor drives but I'm certain those heatsinks do next to nothing.) It needs full-depth to install though since the drives don't stick out of the front while in use. It also uses a caddy for the 2.5 inch drives.

 

[LinuxDevice]

I don't believe I am getting my point across. The new bay is a dual connector bay the old one is a single connector. And since a drive will either be in the SSD orHDD, never in both at the same time I need the SATA data coming from the controller be available in both location. Thus a Y cable. And for those worried about fires, we are not talking about the power connector but ONLY the SATA Data connector.
I imagine what I will end up doing is simply connect the 2 separate SATA data connections points together by soldering the 2 connectors together. If there isn't a noise issue it should work perfectly. Again let me put emphasis on this statement, there will never be a drive in the SSD slot and the HDD slot at the same time.

Obliviously this would be much easier if there was such thing as a Y cable (much like the old Y power cables for the old style drives)

There are RF signal quality issues as well. Unlike power the SATA data is far from being a DC signal. If you were to simply splice two data cables in parallel, but only plug in one of them at a time, then I suspect data failures would go rampant. You really need two different SATA ports even if only one gets used at a time.