Scotty Prices

[HardWareBoss]

3.2 $278 3.4 $417 3.6 $637 3.8 $637 Looks like nice price for 3.4 Scotty at $417 What will A64 Be? Virtual Zone yesterday.

 

[ad_rach]

I would love to believe that the 3.4 will be released at $417 but i just can't.That is way too low.I can imagine it dropping to that price when the 3.6(or whatever succeeds it) comes out but Intel always charges $600+ for its flagship and i can't see that changing so dramatically.For one thing, it might even make the Prescott seem 'cheap' if it debuted at that price.
I would really love to eat my words if these rumours turn out to be true because the price war such a step would cause in the cpu market would be a consumer's dream...but i won't be holding my breath.

no matter how hard you try, you can't polish a turd. :]

 

[HardWareBoss]

It does look to good to be true. But Intel could be on to something who knows.

 

[eden]

Well, consider that maybe they ARE feeling threatened by A64, so they will go for a flagship 3.6GHZ compared to the initial 3.2GHZ one, and release a mid-end 3.4GHZ for 417$. I must say it's a great value. Prescott promises a lot if it sells at that price and you consider what it offers. Right now though, the best thing AMD could ever do is sell the FX-51 for 410$ than 600$, that would be instant gratification (3400+ equiv.).

Oh and I don't get this, how can they sell a 3.8 for the same price as the 3.6?!

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[HardWareBoss]

The same price they sold 3.0 an 3.2. Maybe 3.4 Scotty will be The new OC King?

 

[SJJM]

I am just waiting for the 3.0g to drop in price, I really don't care aobut the new cpus.

<font color=blue>"You know, that my backstab attack does double the damage. I can make an off button for him." </font color=blue> 😎

 

[jmecor]

the situation today looks reversed. Now
Intel is the Price/Perfomance leader compared to AMD with the A64.

<font color=green>If your nose <b>RUNS</b>, and feet <b>SMELLS</b>.
Then you must be born <b>UP-SIDE DOWN</b>.</font color=green>

 

[jmecor]

for me: i'm waiting for the price of 3.0C to drop even lower before my next purchase.

<font color=green>If your nose <b>RUNS</b>, and feet <b>SMELLS</b>.
Then you must be born <b>UP-SIDE DOWN</b>.</font color=green>

 

[HardWareBoss]

Taht's why I posted this. 3.4 $417 Wow!!!!

 

[HardWareBoss]

I bought the 2.4C OC to 3.0 all set. Now with Tejas do 2nd half 2004.

 

[ufo_warviper]

With the 3.2 at $278, I would probably expect the 3.0 Ghz Northwood to come in barely just above the $200 mark. That sounds like that would be a pretty good buy to me.

My OS features preemptive multitasking, a fully interactive command line, & support for 640K of RAM!

 

[HardWareBoss]

Intel will sell alot of 3.0ghz at that price.

 

[Mephistopheles]

I agree... I think that's strange... how can the flagship cost less than the usual $600? (not that that's a bad thing, mind you)

As to the 3.6Ghz costing the same as the 3.8Ghz, this is highly suggestive of different release dates (i.e. the 3.8Gh will only come later, and will be accompanied by a drop in prices for the 3.6Ghz)...

But... is it conceivable that Intel will release 3.2Ghz, 3.4Ghz <i>and the 3.6Ghz</i> in October, so that the flagship still costs a full $600?... This would make some sense, if they feel threatened... Just thinking here...

<font color=red><b>M</b></font color=red>ephistopheles

 

[ad_rach]

is it conceivable that Intel will release 3.2Ghz, 3.4Ghz and the 3.6Ghz in October, so that the flagship still costs a full $600?... This would make some sense, if they feel threatened... Just thinking here...

I think that is the only way that these prospective prices could be feasible.Then it would make sense for the 3.8 to be released later, taking the old price point of the 3.6 and causing the 3.6 itself to drop in price.I still find it hard to believe that Intel would release the 3.2,3.4 and 3.6 all at the same time though, unless they have made some major breakthroughs in the scaling of Prescott or they have some new-found confidence that Tejas will tape out on time.I really expected (and am still inclined towards) the release of the 3.2 and 3.4 as the Prescott debut, with the 3.4 taking a $600+ price point.

no matter how hard you try, you can't polish a turd. :]

 

[ad_rach]

the best thing AMD could ever do is sell the FX-51 for 410$

Please don't say things like that!The idea of a utopia where the prescott 3.4 would debut at $417 and the FX-51 at $410 is just too beautiful to ignore and it makes this world seem all the more lame!

no matter how hard you try, you can't polish a turd. :]

 

[SJJM]

I think that someone in this forum already said that they fix the heat issue. Scotty will be only using 83 watts, and who knows they might need to bring out the big guns to keep up with A64. We have all seen some benchmarks for the A64, but we have yet to see any benchmarks for Scotty. They might be in trouble.

<font color=blue>"You know, that my backstab attack does double the damage. I can make an off button for him." </font color=blue> 😎

 

[Mephistopheles]

they might need to bring out the big guns to keep up with A64.

Who knows how big a gun they have available in their labs?...

They might be in trouble.

That's possible, but I suppose that's somewhat unlikely. Could be wrong, though. Only time (and I don't mean two weeks, I mean several months) will really tell if they are ready or not.

<font color=red><b>M</b></font color=red>ephistopheles

 

[HardWareBoss]

3.4 Scotty will release in Oct. 1st qtr 2004 3.2 and 3.6 than 2nd qtr 2004 3.8 But Tejas launches sometime around then or later.

 

[Bahumut]

Let's take a worst case scenario for Intel.
Let's say Scotty can't keep up with A64.

Intel looses 20% of the consumer market while developing a new processor and platform (neither of which take very long for Intel to do).
Now Intel is back in the game.
Intel still has >60% of the consumer market.
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This is not a realistic scenario.
Computer manufacturers and typical consumers have already shown unwaivering loyalty to Intel.
When the P4 (Williamette) first came out, it was much slower than even Intel's own PIII.
Yet, Intel was able to use this inferior processor to push AMD back into it's hole.
They simply convinced people they had the better processor,
then improved on it later.
It's called marketing.

Had it not been for such successful marketing on Intel's part, AMD would never have fallen behind Intel in performance.
Lack of money for R&D has severely stunted AMD's ability to expand. (Note how many AMD processors use they same socket and more importantly how little their core design has changed incompareson to Intel.)

***Reality:
Marketing is the base of Intel's business.
If they can make it look like they are better, which they can, they will win.
When they have more money, they can do more R&D and release better chips.
AMD won't get a significant share of the consumer market until they can market on par (or near so) with Intel.

If Scotty is a complete flop, computer manufacturers and the common buyers will still buy Intel chips.
AMD will probably gain no more than 10% of the consumer market.
(I must admit AMD is onto something in the workstation/server market, but only because Intel decided not to invest in 32/64 bit hybrids)
Intel will only start feeling the heat if they release many flops in a row.

Pain is the realization of your own weakness.