second 7800gt, 7900GTX, or wait for phsyx card?

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I think people are calling the 3700+ a bottleneck because of demands of the future Vista with Aero and future DX10 games.
Not because of any software available today.
 
I think people are calling the 3700+ a bottleneck because of demands of the future Vista with Aero and future DX10 games.
Not because of any software available today.
 
By just how many frames/sec does one's FEAR 1280x960/4xAA/16xAF performance jump by bosting the the clock speed from 2.2G up to, say, 2.8GHz ?

a. 2 fps
b. 1.5 fps
c. 20 fps
Hint: "C" is quite incorrect!
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I would have guessed more in the 5 to 10 fps range. Maybe FEAR is more CPU bound than most games... do you have a benchmark to back this up or is this a guesstimate?
 
if my 3700 is bottlenecking me now then surely a 3800 would bottleneck me more as games aren't really benefitting from the dual core setup then the fact that the individual cores on the 3800 are actually slower than my 3700?
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i'm swaying towards the phsyx card at the moment.....
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You think you wouldn't benefit from a dual core CPU but that you can find games that will really take advantage of the physx engine? That's funny! In any case, if you use your comp for anything else other than gaming, or if you have anything running in the background while you play (eg. anti-virus or P2P) then you would most likely benefit from the second core of a new CPU
 
Unless you're running an intense app in the background, dual core is going to do very very little for you unless the game is optimized for it...

And 99% of them are not dual-core optimized, at this time.

I don't know about you, but I don't encode video while I game...
 
I Say Stick With Your Correct System ... & Wait For Something Much Bigger Than 7900GTX ...
Hey !! 3700 Is A BottleNeck ?? 8O Oh , That`s Funny ...
I Play A 100% CPU Limited Game ( Dawn Of War : Winter Assault ) In 1600x1200 On Max Detail With My CPU ( 64 3000+ OC To 2.2GHz ) & The Frame Rate Never Goes Less Than 25~30 ...
Hehe ... Some Peoples Doesn`t Really Know What Is Good & What Is Bad ... :twisted:
 
If you want the bang for your buck, and don't plan on upgrading for awhile, wait for DX10 video cards. DX10 is coming soon, and you're card should beable to handle most games on high quality. SLI isn't worth the money for only a 30% performance gain. Not many current games use Ageia PhysX, so I would only purchase one of those after you get a top of the line video card.
 
Get Oblivion. It will redefine your bottlenecks and you'll need both the dual cpu and a newer graphics card.

Seriously, dual core rocks and if 5fps in a single game is sacrificed, I'd still go with dual core for all the other positives, and the fact that new games like Oblivion totally eat it up!! Where's my Quad core?
 
my games PC is purely for games, everything else i do on my laptop, or my wifes PC, so dual core not really an issue.....

the difference between getting a dual core and a phsyx card......

if i buy the processor, i've not got a phsyx card.

if i buy the phsyx card i do have a processor......
 
By just how many frames/sec does one's FEAR 1280x960/4xAA/16xAF performance jump by bosting the the clock speed from 2.2G up to, say, 2.8GHz ?

a. 2 fps
b. 1.5 fps
c. 20 fps
Hint: "C" is quite incorrect!
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I would have guessed more in the 5 to 10 fps range. Maybe FEAR is more CPU bound than most games... do you have a benchmark to back this up or is this a guesstimate?

I made this mistake too Cleeve - he said C is incorrect! So the answer is A or B!
 
If you only play games on your PC then things are much more simple. The biggest by far benefit for your gaming experience would come from a new GPU. Indeed, you would probably not see too much benefit from a dual core CPU but neither would you see any real improvements from a PhysX engine. Unless of course you have a particular game in mind that you know for a fact it will take full advantage of it. Then again, by the time such games are out most, if not all, games will also utilise multiple CPU cores
 
my games PC is purely for games, everything else i do on my laptop, or my wifes PC, so dual core not really an issue.....

the difference between getting a dual core and a phsyx card......

if i buy the processor, i've not got a phsyx card.

if i buy the phsyx card i do have a processor......
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And? The Ageia PhysX is TOTALLY useless right now. Some games have support for the card but that doesn't mean that the game implements the use of the card.

The Ageia PhysX will drop in price about ~$100 bucks (guessing) by the time it becomes mainstream and many games have implemented it. It's a bad deal at $250-$300 in 2006.
 
Right now I think your CPU is bottlenecking your rig. Neither of your graphic upgrades options are wise right now. Here's what I would do if I were in your position.

1. Buy AMD 64 X2 3800+
2. Sell AMD 64 3700+
3. Wait 2 months (nVidia 8-series release, supposedly)
4. Buy DirectX 10 compliant 8-series card
5. Sell 7800GT.

That's what I'm doing with my 7800GT. I can survive on it until the 8-series comes out. The PhysX card isn't worth buying. Most supporting games will be out in '07, and by then the card itself will be bigger, better, and cheaper.
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No his cpu is not bottlenecking and if it was the 3800 would bottle morebecause most games are only single threaded. there is no way that dx10 cards are coming in 2 months because there is no os that would support the dx10 so y would anyone buy it. STFU n00b.
 
No his cpu is not bottlenecking and if it was the 3800 would bottle morebecause most games are only single threaded. there is no way that dx10 cards are coming in 2 months because there is no os that would support the dx10 so y would anyone buy it. STFU n00b.
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LoL please read all posts in the thread. By the way, how do YOU know that DX10 cards won't be coming out soon? You don't. Nice job. A 7800GT jump to a 7900GTX isn't worth the money cause then he'd just have to get rid of teh 7900GTX in 9 months (at the most). nV and ATI would be smart to put out their DX10 cards well before Christmas.

Thanks for your attempt though, gave me the chance to chuckle, "n00b."
 
Unless you're running an intense app in the background, dual core is going to do very very little for you unless the game is optimized for it...

And 99% of them are not dual-core optimized, at this time.

I don't know about you, but I don't encode video while I game...
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I don't think any half-serious gamer encodes video while they play but that's not really the point. You can't deny that a dual core processor is more future proof than a single core. Everyone's moving in that direction and it won't be too long before we start seeing more and more games not only optimised for but actually written with two cores in mind. How many people can confidently say that for the physx PPU?
 
wait a bit and get a physx card
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That is exactly what I am going to do around the summer / fall, the rest of your system is fine. Your system is similiar to mine, I have X2-3800 and am actually considering making it my fileserver and using a 3700 in my game box, since my fileserver can really use smp rather than my game box - maybe get the cheap PD 805 instead, they are cheap, more $ on mobo - ugghh... decisions...
 
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