Second try at installing a new GPU, replacing an APU

[Fanta Zee]

So I tried to install a second hand GPU last time, and now that I'm trying again, I'd like to get some problems adressed before even beginning, that occured last time.

So first off, the specs:
I have an AMD A8-6600K APU with Radeon HD graphics (4.70 Hz),
Motherboard is: MSI A78M-E35 (MS-7721) (P0)
I don't currently have GPU installed, but the one I was going to install is the
(Nvidia) GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1050 D5 2G

It should be noted that it seems impossible to properly uninstall my existing graphics driver-- even after using various uninstall tools the screen never gets that typical MOBO graphics look, like in safe mode. Is this some sort of autodownload thing of AMD's that I don't know of? By any means I'd love to know.

So I plugged in the card and couldn't find the right cables ( they were hidden in some obscure corner in the computer), so after booting the pc only the fans worked. Once I did eventually find the cables and plugged them in, the computer automatically shut down and wouldnt boot again until switched off completely. After about 3 times of this, the card completely fried itself ( you could smell it. ) During the few times it actually ran it never showed up in the hardware monitor or anything. Is it a rubbish card, or is something off about the motherboard?

All in all a step by step guide with these issues in mind would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

 

[madmatt30]

The 1050 does not have any analog signal out.

If you're using just the cheap plug through dvi to VGA adapters like this that used to come with gpu's that's why you're not getting any display.

If your monitor is VGA only then you need to purchase an active HDMI to VGA adapter.

 

[Fanta Zee]

The 1050 does not have any analog signal out.

If you're using just the cheap plug through dvi to VGA adapters like this that used to come with gpu's that's why you're not getting any display.

If your monitor is VGA only then you need to purchase an active HDMI to VGA adapter.

There it is.
Could you recommend me one?

 

[goldstone77]

I would get in contact with MSI to see if that video card will work, and possibly discuss bios settings for that motherboard. It wasn't on the supported list, but I would think it should work. I say this because my next suggestion is a faulty PCI-E slot without another video card to test.
https://register.msi.com/home/login

Edit: I think it's probably a bios setting.

 

[madmatt30]

Don't know what country you are so just used amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ZMV7RL2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1508431585&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=hdmi+to+vga+active+adapter


That's what you need.

 

[goldstone77]

leave the case off and see if fans are spinning.

 

[goldstone77]

Wait, did you not have an adapter already?

 

[Fanta Zee]

Wait, did you not have an adapter already?

I did have a DVI to VGA adapter-- but according to him, it won't do.

 

[Fanta Zee]

Update: Good news! The fans do spin. The card is recognized, fans are running, everything seems to be fine about the card this time. I'll try that adapter and report back tomorrow when I get it. Anything else?

 

[goldstone77]

Slots

• 1 PCI Express 3.0 x16 slot*
• 1 PCI Express 2.0 x1 slot
• 1 PCI slot
* Only FM2+ processors can support PCIe 3.0

You need to contact MSI and for compatibility.

 

[madmatt30]

^ doesn't matter , fm2 just reduces the PCI express lanes to 2x standard.

Absolute non issue , with 1080ti you'd only lose 2% performance , with a 1050 there ia no performance loss at all.

The adapter will 99.99999% likely solve the problem.

I'd personally be dragging that PC down to the lounge TV & connecting via HDMI for 5 minutes just to see it work

 

[goldstone77]

Matt has more experience than me in this area, and makes a good point if you can connect it too another device like a TV would be good to test it.

 

[goldstone77]

Just to check you are plugging into the video card you installed and not the connector provided by the motherboard?

 

[madmatt30]

Unfortunately both amd & nvidia removed analog decoding hardware from their latest card ranges

This means that straight VGA adapters just don't work anymore.
I have no idea why they did it , it probably save a couple of dollar manufacture costs per card at best.

But that's the reason you see a huge amount of those activa VGA adapters now for sale on amazon & eBay , before these cards there was very little demand for these converters , now they sell like wildfire because there are a lot of people in the same position as you.

 

[goldstone77]

Unfortunately both amd & nvidia removed analog decoding hardware from their latest card ranges

This means that straight VGA adapters just don't work anymore.
I have no idea why they did it , it probably save a couple of dollar manufacture costs per card at best.

But that's the reason you see a huge amount of those activa VGA adapters now for sale on amazon & eBay , before these cards there was very little demand for these converters , now they sell like wildfire because there are a lot of people in the same position as you.

I didn't know that. Thanks for the information!

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

Also, something like this might work as well, seeing how more and more cards are coming with displayport. A lot of your business class prebuilt Dells are coming with them standard as well it seems with just the plain intel graphics.

https://www.amazon.com/Rankie-Plated-DisplayPort-Adapter-Converter/dp/B00Z08TZNU/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1508437522&sr=1-3&keywords=displayport+to+vga

 

[Fanta Zee]

Guys, I bought this here: https://www.alternate.nl/ICY-BOX/Adapter-Micro-HDMI-VGA/html/product/1126098?event=search

Will it do or should I cancel my order?

ps. yes, I plugged everything in the right spot, I'm certain of it.

 

[goldstone77]

that is a micro HDMI adapter. You need a HDMI adapter on that website it would be https://www.alternate.nl/html/product/1126094

 

[goldstone77]

Wait this would be cheaper https://www.alternate.nl/html/product/86348

 

[Fanta Zee]

Wait this would be cheaper https://www.alternate.nl/html/product/86348

But didn't we -just- establish that that type of one wouldn't work? Or am I getting that wrong

 

[madmatt30]

^ no , that one won't work.

Damn those adapters are expensive on there.

In all honesty the ones you listed don't state active either .

The only one that does actually state it is this one

https://www.alternate.nl/Club-3D/HDMI-1-4-to-VGA-Active-Adapter/html/product/1354311?event=search

But €30-35 is badly overpriced.

 

[Fanta Zee]

^ no , that one won't work.

Damn those adapters are expensive on there.

In all honesty the ones you listed don't state active either .

The only one that does actually state it is this one

https://www.alternate.nl/Club-3D/HDMI-1-4-to-VGA-Active-Adapter/html/product/1354311?event=search

But €30-35 is badly overpriced.

If you think that one will do, I'll just take it. I've been on this issue for far too long. I can spare the bucks. I already have had to cancel two previous orders due to uncertainty 😛

 

[madmatt30]

https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B00ZMV7RL2/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅZÕÑ&qid=1508440171&sr=8-2-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=hdmi+to+vga&psc=1

Can't you use Amazon.de ??

They're like €7 on there!!

 

[Fanta Zee]

I could do, but I really want it asap. I'll just take it. I'd be more at peace with that option.

Thanks for the option, though!

 

[Fanta Zee]

The adapter will arrive later today, I'll try it out after work and let you know how it went.

 

[Fanta Zee]

Good news guys-- the adapter works, and the cfard now outputs a signal. the screen however looks of quite low quality and isn't properly centered. I'll be using the software installation disk that came with the card now, keep you posted.