This guy is stupid and he work for security firm? what a joke, I bet you he a MAC fan; why don't you run back to mac dummy. I been using Windows 7 for while now and every time I disable Norton, Windows 7 nag me to turn it back on.
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[citation]"I was disappointed when I first used a Windows 7 machine that there was no warning that I had no anti-virus, unlike Vista," Genes said. "There are no file extension hidden warnings either. Even when you do install anti-virus, warnings that it has not been updated are almost invisible."[/citation]
Actually there is a warning. Its just not as in your face. When I first installed 7, it didn't support Live Onecare so I went without until the Beta on MSE. It told me every day I should get a anti-virus, just like Vista did.
And isn't it the job of the AV program to notify you of updates? I know MSE does.
This guy works for a AV company and seems like hes just a pure BS idiot to me. But of course they will claim Windows 7 is less secure. Its just like AV companies claimed Vista was less secure than XP yet Vista was proven by MS and other people to be more secure than XP SP1.
And funny thing, with all the web browsing I did the few months without any AV, I sure didn't get anything. Must be lucky....
Actually there is a warning. Its just not as in your face. When I first installed 7, it didn't support Live Onecare so I went without until the Beta on MSE. It told me every day I should get a anti-virus, just like Vista did.
And isn't it the job of the AV program to notify you of updates? I know MSE does.
This guy works for a AV company and seems like hes just a pure BS idiot to me. But of course they will claim Windows 7 is less secure. Its just like AV companies claimed Vista was less secure than XP yet Vista was proven by MS and other people to be more secure than XP SP1.
And funny thing, with all the web browsing I did the few months without any AV, I sure didn't get anything. Must be lucky....
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[citation][nom]amabhy[/nom]Oh great Yam. Another article slamming Windows 7, and you fail to note that the company stating the claims makes money fixing up problems and viruses in Windows.[/citation]
Don't forget they also make the majority of the viruses so they still have a job. Without that they wouldn't sell enough copies to do squat.
Don't forget they also make the majority of the viruses so they still have a job. Without that they wouldn't sell enough copies to do squat.
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Doesn't even matter to me. I'm still on Vista and I've disabled all those warnings and what not. UAC annoyed me to no end so I shut it off.
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This is not less security, this is less warnings about the same lack of security out of the box (since Vista and Win 7 don't come with antivirus software).
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"But its true that because of the Design of Windows system, it will always be a playing ground for Viruses, Malwares, Malacious code & Hacking."
You do realize MAC is less secure then Windows right? Popularity is why Windows get more viruses, worms, etc..
You do realize MAC is less secure then Windows right? Popularity is why Windows get more viruses, worms, etc..
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[citation][nom]Maxor127[/nom]People complain way too much about UAC. It works fine in Vista. I rarely get alerts. People either overexaggerate about it or are using their system incorrectly.When I do get an alert, I know it's coming and it's second nature to just click through it. If you like having a less secure computer, then good luck with that.[/citation]
Or you could do what I did with my 2 day old Acer Timeline, immediately wipe the Swiss Cheese OS, registries and all and install Linux.
Or you could do what I did with my 2 day old Acer Timeline, immediately wipe the Swiss Cheese OS, registries and all and install Linux.
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[citation][nom]kingnoobe[/nom]"But its true that because of the Design of Windows system, it will always be a playing ground for Viruses, Malwares, Malacious code & Hacking."You do realize MAC is less secure then Windows right? Popularity is why Windows get more viruses, worms, etc..[/citation]
OS X less secure than Windows, you are kidding right? Or you are misinformed about OS X based off of Unix.
OS X less secure than Windows, you are kidding right? Or you are misinformed about OS X based off of Unix.
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They should have just included Microsoft Security Essentials instead and really pissed him off by removing the need to install an AV at all...
Moron! Why doesnt he talk more about the fact that he doesnt want to stay in the virus security consortium because they (trend) refuse to update AV definitions more than once every 24 hours... MEH... Go screw yourself Trend... Second fiddle, third class morons...
Moron! Why doesnt he talk more about the fact that he doesnt want to stay in the virus security consortium because they (trend) refuse to update AV definitions more than once every 24 hours... MEH... Go screw yourself Trend... Second fiddle, third class morons...
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[citation][nom]Regulas[/nom]OS X less secure than Windows, you are kidding right? Or you are misinformed about OS X based off of Unix.[/citation]
I think he is referring to the feat where OS X was hacked in record time compared to the latest flavours of Windows and other OS's. OS X has quite a few flaws as they all do, being based on Unix doesnt make it any more secure. In the end humans programmed it and humans make mistakes time and time again. Truth is, if there is a lock that exists, there exists someone who can bypass it. It is the nature of the beast.
I think he is referring to the feat where OS X was hacked in record time compared to the latest flavours of Windows and other OS's. OS X has quite a few flaws as they all do, being based on Unix doesnt make it any more secure. In the end humans programmed it and humans make mistakes time and time again. Truth is, if there is a lock that exists, there exists someone who can bypass it. It is the nature of the beast.
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[citation][nom]Regulas[/nom]OS X less secure than Windows, you are kidding right? Or you are misinformed about OS X based off of Unix.[/citation]
Unix isn't a secure OS anyway, it wasn't designed for that, Unix was designed before networking was important.
Unix isn't a secure OS anyway, it wasn't designed for that, Unix was designed before networking was important.
I had no issues with UAC, it's just people who don't understand computers find them annoying. However, most computer users who need security appreciate that Microsoft has finally gotten a sudo like implementation on Windows. I for one loved UAC (albeit more annoying than sudo), on Windows 7, I cranked up UAC to maximum as it should be used.
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[citation][nom]mickey21[/nom]I think he is referring to the feat where OS X was hacked in record time compared to the latest flavours of Windows and other OS's. OS X has quite a few flaws as they all do, being based on Unix doesnt make it any more secure. In the end humans programmed it and humans make mistakes time and time again. Truth is, if there is a lock that exists, there exists someone who can bypass it. It is the nature of the beast.[/citation]
OSX was not insecure, Safari was. In the same way Linux is "insecure" if you install dodgy software. A system is only as secure as the sum of its parts, and the OS makes up a large part of that sum, but not all of it. In the end, security hinges on the user more than anything else. The best security in the world can not compete with human stupidity.
OSX was not insecure, Safari was. In the same way Linux is "insecure" if you install dodgy software. A system is only as secure as the sum of its parts, and the OS makes up a large part of that sum, but not all of it. In the end, security hinges on the user more than anything else. The best security in the world can not compete with human stupidity.
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lol I simply don't agree that windows didn't show any message that an antivirus wasn't running. I have dont windows re-installations plenty of times.
And every time I see a little flag (right next to my volume and wireless icon) in the taskbar which reminded me that Oh oops there is no antivirus and I need to find one.
And as for the UAC, I agree with what microsoft did. That little UAC was annoying as hell in windows vista. Microsoft had to go easy on it if they wanted to make windows 7 a success.
But if you are a security freak, than you shouldn't have a hard time cranking the setting up manually. It's not that hard to drag the UAC setting all the way up. And you specially don't need a fancy degree to know how to do that.
And every time I see a little flag (right next to my volume and wireless icon) in the taskbar which reminded me that Oh oops there is no antivirus and I need to find one.
And as for the UAC, I agree with what microsoft did. That little UAC was annoying as hell in windows vista. Microsoft had to go easy on it if they wanted to make windows 7 a success.
But if you are a security freak, than you shouldn't have a hard time cranking the setting up manually. It's not that hard to drag the UAC setting all the way up. And you specially don't need a fancy degree to know how to do that.
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[citation][nom]CrashOverride90[/nom]It's not that hard to drag the UAC setting all the way up. And you specially don't need a fancy degree to know how to do that.[/citation]
I disagree. Most people struggle to do anything in Windows. They would work much better with an OS that is almost completely automated. This is why the default defrag schedules were a good addition to Vista.
I disagree. Most people struggle to do anything in Windows. They would work much better with an OS that is almost completely automated. This is why the default defrag schedules were a good addition to Vista.
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[citation][nom]randomizer[/nom]I disagree. Most people struggle to do anything in Windows.[/citation]
LOL, well that answers a lot of questions...
1. "Most people" are dumb
2. No wonder "most people" can't adopt to linux (WAY may secure than windows)
3. And no wonder "most people" get affected by viruses
Now just to let "most people" know how to change UAC I will set up a guide
This is what you do
1. Click on start
2. Start typing "user account control"
3. Click on the very first search result from the list
4. Now you will see a slider on the left side of the window that just poped up
5. Drag the slider all the way up.
That's it you are done!
5 easy steps. Now was that too hard?
LOL, well that answers a lot of questions...
1. "Most people" are dumb
2. No wonder "most people" can't adopt to linux (WAY may secure than windows)
3. And no wonder "most people" get affected by viruses
Now just to let "most people" know how to change UAC I will set up a guide
This is what you do
1. Click on start
2. Start typing "user account control"
3. Click on the very first search result from the list
4. Now you will see a slider on the left side of the window that just poped up
5. Drag the slider all the way up.
That's it you are done!
5 easy steps. Now was that too hard?
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Raimund Genes, CTO of security firm Trend Micro is either a “bold faced liar” or just a complete idiot. Windows 7 does in fact give a warning if you don’t have virus protection installed on a windows 7 machine. In the right hand corner of the desktop is a little flag, Action Center. If there’s not a virus protection program on your computer that little flag is red, if you click it, a dialog box opens with a big red warning message about virus protection. Also Microsoft offers free virus protection with "Microsoft Security Essentials” FYI
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[citation][nom]CrashOverride90[/nom]Now was that too hard?[/citation]
They'd have to use Google to find your solution. This is something people do not do. Instead, they call their "geek" friend or family member to help them out. Some people are also too afraid of doing the wrong thing even with instructions in front of them.
I see you've never done tech support and you're seeing everything through the eyes of someone who is not "most people".
They'd have to use Google to find your solution. This is something people do not do. Instead, they call their "geek" friend or family member to help them out. Some people are also too afraid of doing the wrong thing even with instructions in front of them.
I see you've never done tech support and you're seeing everything through the eyes of someone who is not "most people".
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