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[citation][nom]Vorador2[/nom]Everytime i read "4K is pointless or unnecessary" i'm reminded of "640Kb should be enough for everybody".[/citation]

which is a fake quote that no one said...
point of saying 4k is pointless in home use is because of how far away most people are and how big the tv would need to be for you to get anything from 4k.

lets go 10 feet from the screen.
to take full advantage of 720p you would need a 50 inch screen
and
to take full advantage of 1080p you would need a about a 77 inch tv
my house, 12 - 13 is normal didtance for us and 18 being about a max.

12 feet - you need about a 120 inch tv to take full advantage of 1080p

at 32 inches, this is to small for tv use, even in my bedroom im 8 feet from a screen and that barely warrants a 720p tv at that distance much less a 1080p. and as a pc monitor, the ppi is so high you have to re adjust the user interface of everything to the point that added real estate becomes moot.

like i said above, i have a 24 inch 1920x1200, i zoom in most pages with text to about 175% for easier reading. try playing an older game where the ui isn't adjustable in game, play it full screen and tell me if the ui is to small.

by my math, 48inches is what would be usable on the pc, try using a 48inch screen as a pc monitor at 3 feet and tell me how good that is.
 
[citation][nom]alidan[/nom]which is a fake quote that no one said...point of saying 4k is pointless in home use is because of how far away most people are and how big the tv would need to be for you to get anything from 4k. lets go 10 feet from the screen. to take full advantage of 720p you would need a 50 inch screen and to take full advantage of 1080p you would need a about a 77 inch tvmy house, 12 - 13 is normal didtance for us and 18 being about a max.12 feet - you need about a 120 inch tv to take full advantage of 1080pat 32 inches, this is to small for tv use, even in my bedroom im 8 feet from a screen and that barely warrants a 720p tv at that distance much less a 1080p. and as a pc monitor, the ppi is so high you have to re adjust the user interface of everything to the point that added real estate becomes moot. like i said above, i have a 24 inch 1920x1200, i zoom in most pages with text to about 175% for easier reading. try playing an older game where the ui isn't adjustable in game, play it full screen and tell me if the ui is to small.by my math, 48inches is what would be usable on the pc, try using a 48inch screen as a pc monitor at 3 feet and tell me how good that is.[/citation]
I think for most people including myself its for the visual spectical rather than for reading, best example i can think of would be fireworks show at 4k 60p, you would be able to see the fine detail differnence at 3 feet at 31.5 inches vs 48 inches pretty easily and the same will go for games. That or a trip to the optometrist if you cant. Everyone see's things differently, just set it up the way YOU want to see it cause thats all that matters.
 
[citation][nom]natoco[/nom]I think for most people including myself its for the visual spectical rather than for reading, best example i can think of would be fireworks show at 4k 60p, you would be able to see the fine detail differnence at 3 feet at 31.5 inches vs 48 inches pretty easily and the same will go for games. That or a trip to the optometrist if you cant. Everyone see's things differently, just set it up the way YOU want to see it cause thats all that matters.[/citation]

got new glasses recently, they bring my to about 20/20 unless somehow i'm suppose to get better than 20/20 that's about what normal shoots for.

fireworks, on a black bacground, are about the only case where you could take advantage of it, but lets go something that is on tv 24/7

tv shows shot in 480p
most shows brodcast in 720i/p
tv shows shot in 720p
and shows may be shot in 1080p

here is the thing, most tvs don't even display 1080p for broadcast yet, and how many places will dump 1080p equipment for 4k? hell, most news places till hd took over, and even after that, were using cameras form the 80's... sure major networks may sell out for 4k, but not major... would they? probably not.

unless you want to watch fireworks at 3 feet away as your primary source of entertainment, thats not the best thing to compare.

im going with about 100ppi is ideal for a computer without changing the ui significantly for celerity purposes.

these would be at about 140ppi, that would make text hellishly small without a ui tweak
 
[citation][nom]alidan[/nom]got new glasses recently, they bring my to about 20/20 unless somehow i'm suppose to get better than 20/20 that's about what normal shoots for. fireworks, on a black bacground, are about the only case where you could take advantage of it, but lets go something that is on tv 24/7tv shows shot in 480pmost shows brodcast in 720i/ptv shows shot in 720pand shows may be shot in 1080phere is the thing, most tvs don't even display 1080p for broadcast yet, and how many places will dump 1080p equipment for 4k? hell, most news places till hd took over, and even after that, were using cameras form the 80's... sure major networks may sell out for 4k, but not major... would they? probably not. unless you want to watch fireworks at 3 feet away as your primary source of entertainment, thats not the best thing to compare. im going with about 100ppi is ideal for a computer without changing the ui significantly for celerity purposes. these would be at about 140ppi, that would make text hellishly small without a ui tweak[/citation]
Just like apple tweaked there ui for the iphone 4 retina screen, all platforms will have to allow for ui tweaks down the road. I agree with your coments about tv broadcasts, 1080i is not very good at all and the bandwidth breaks down in very high detail screens a lot i find even with great recieption. This is probably what japan its complaining about. To change all the infastucture for 4k only to change it all for 8k does sound like throwing money away just to please a small few for a couple of years. But this is a pc screen designed for hardwired content only. Im more interested with how games would look on it with 2 gtx 780's or amd equiv since i game for 5hrs a day.
 
[citation][nom]natoco[/nom]Just like apple tweaked there ui for the iphone 4 retina screen, all platforms will have to allow for ui tweaks down the road. I agree with your coments about tv broadcasts, 1080i is not very good at all and the bandwidth breaks down in very high detail screens a lot i find even with great recieption. This is probably what japan its complaining about. To change all the infastucture for 4k only to change it all for 8k does sound like throwing money away just to please a small few for a couple of years. But this is a pc screen designed for hardwired content only. Im more interested with how games would look on it with 2 gtx 780's or amd equiv since i game for 5hrs a day.[/citation]

it would probably still take more than that to run games unless you are willing to take a hit to the graphics.
overall what did the retina display do for the ui besides sharpen it up a bit? can you go to a website and get more screen space, or do you still zoom in because the text would still be to small to read?

like i said, the usefulness is far more limited than people imagine, again, unless you are getting a 48 inch.

really, im looking at the oculus rift. not the first generation, but sometime down the like, they will get a resolution high enough that most people will not notice pixles unless you have an extremely good vision. and at that point, a virtual monitor. you look around you, and all you see is more screen space, i see that as a future more than i do 4k, at least in the computer area.
 
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