Should I buy a dvi-i or a dvi-d? GTX 1050 ti

[agvzz9]

I bought a GTX 1050 ti a couple days ago, and i realize that it don't have vga connectors, so I have to buy a new monitor. I'm not sure if I have to buy a dvi-i or a dvi-d monitor.
My gpu is this: https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1050-Ti-4GT-OC.html#hero-overview

 

[PCMasterPacer]

[strike]This is a lot cheaper and much faster to install.
https://www.amazon.com/Male-DVI-D-Female-VGA-Adapter/dp/B007EA48MA[/strike]


However:
DVI-I is good for 60hz
DVI-D is good for 120hz

When considering the purchase of a new monitor, first you must decide what resolution you want to play at. My guess would be 1920x1080p. Then comes reponse time: you want 5ms or less. then Hz rating: you want atleast 60 hz, 144 hz would be better < This is still accurate and right

IPS VS TN:
TN is cheaper
IPS is clearer

 

[RobCrezz]

The above is incorrect.

DVI-I Just means it carries analogue signal as well as the digital signal, so you can use VGA adapters.
DVI-D Is digital signal only.

Dual link DVI is for higher resolutions and refresh rates.

 

[photonboy]

*First, the above connector will not work*

Update: first response, not the pictures

(It's a special connector for specific cards. It does not contain the Digital to Analog aka DAC chip that you would need to convert digital to analog video)

There is no such thing as a "DVI-I" monitor.

A "DVI-I" connection on a graphics card simply means it has BOTH the analog (VGA) and digital (DVI) connectors.

By default you connect to the DVI connectors, but if you use the VGA adapter you then connect to the VGA (for VGA monitor) instead.

*Thus, your monitor would be simply "DVI" (but should also have DP and or HDMI connectors too).

So... what monitor?

Depends on the budget. I'll link some PCPARTPICKER (USA but can change) links.

 

[madmatt30]

^ that adapter won't work for a 1050ti , these new cards have no analog output at all.
You need an active convertor to run on a VGA screen.
When buying a new monitor just look for one with an HDMI socket .

 

[photonboy]

http://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/

Lots of choices but depends on your BUDGET. You can filter by PRICE, TN vs IPS, Hz (refresh rate) etc.

I'll post this and link one or two below. Most important things:
1) get at least 22"
2) good customer feedback (Amazon is screwed up as it mixes items, and reviews don't match between sites. For example, Newegg may show 3/5 and some other site may show 4.4/5... seems odd).
3) 6ms maximum response time (or too much blur/ghosting)

 

[bignastyid]

This is a lot cheaper and much faster to install.
https://www.amazon.com/Male-DVI-D-Female-VGA-Adapter/dp/B007EA48MA


However:
DVI-I is good for 60hz
DVI-D is good for 120hz

When considering the purchase of a new monitor, first you must decide what resolution you want to play at. My guess would be 1920x1080p. Then comes reponse time: you want 5ms or less. then Hz rating: you want atleast 60 hz, 144 hz would be better

IPS VS TN:
TN is cheaper
IPS is clearer

That's not right.
DVI-I is analog and digital
DVI-D is digital only

There are single link and dual link versions of DVI-I and DVI-D.

Single link DVI will only support 1080p @ 60Hz
Dual link DVI supports 1080p@144HZ as well as higher resolutions like 1440p and 2560x1600

And that cheap adapter WILL NOT convert a digital signal to an analog one and is completely worthless as a display adapter.

 

[PCMasterPacer]

I guess the old school adaptor method wont work in this case OP, sorry for steering you in the wrong direction! I was unaware the 1050ti is digital only.

This is a lot cheaper and much faster to install.
https://www.amazon.com/Male-DVI-D-Female-VGA-Adapter/dp/B007EA48MA


However:
DVI-I is good for 60hz
DVI-D is good for 120hz

Single link DVI will only support 1080p @ 60Hz
Dual link DVI supports 1080p@144HZ as well as higher resolutions like 1440p and 2560x1600

That's barely different from what I said above as it was a simplified version.

 

[photonboy]

*MONITORS*

First, note that he has DP and Dual-Link DVI so there's no monitor he'll have a bandwidth issue with (get any Hz/resolution you want).

$120 http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Wp8H99/dell-monitor-s2316m
- IPS, 60Hz, 6ms, 1920x1080
- con: only supports the computer (DVI). If you want a separate input such as HDMI to hook up another PC or BluRay player you'll need a different monitor

$250 to $350 approx. (high resolution is nice)
- 2560x1440, IPS, 60Hz
- 24" and 25" (not 27")

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/TwzZxr/asus-monitor-vx24ah
and
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/T8dFf7/dell-monitor-u2515h

I bought my sister the Dell. Nice monitor. Great 3-year Warranty with free shipping RMA.

Higher resolution is great for desktop, and especially games with smaller HUD/text items like StarCraft 2, CIV5 etc. (you can change the resolution in the game to 1920x1080 if needed which it will for some games, but make sure monitor or GPU driver is set to scale by ASPECT to avoid stretching or unnecessary black bars.)

 

[bignastyid]

I guess the old school adaptor method wont work in this case OP, sorry for steering you in the wrong direction! I was unaware the 1050ti is digital only.

This is a lot cheaper and much faster to install.
https://www.amazon.com/Male-DVI-D-Female-VGA-Adapter/dp/B007EA48MA


However:
DVI-I is good for 60hz
DVI-D is good for 120hz

Single link DVI will only support 1080p @ 60Hz
Dual link DVI supports 1080p@144HZ as well as higher resolutions like 1440p and 2560x1600

That's barely different from what I said above as it was a simplified version.

"However:
DVI-I is good for 60hz
DVI-D is good for 120hz"

That is not simplified its simply not correct. The I and the D have nothing to do with what refresh rate is supported, they tell you what signal is supported. For the refresh rate it's the link speed(bandwidth) that determines the refresh rate it will support and there is single link and dual link. @1080p a single link DVI-D port will not support 120HZ. A dual link DVI-I port will support 144HZ.

 

[RobCrezz]

I guess the old school adaptor method wont work in this case OP, sorry for steering you in the wrong direction! I was unaware the 1050ti is digital only.

This is a lot cheaper and much faster to install.
https://www.amazon.com/Male-DVI-D-Female-VGA-Adapter/dp/B007EA48MA


However:
DVI-I is good for 60hz
DVI-D is good for 120hz

Single link DVI will only support 1080p @ 60Hz
Dual link DVI supports 1080p@144HZ as well as higher resolutions like 1440p and 2560x1600

That's barely different from what I said above as it was a simplified version.

Youre still wrong. DVI-I and DVI-D are different to Single link and Dual Link DVI...

 

[photonboy]

Robcrezz and Bignastyid are right.
This doesn't affect the point of this article (his card has Dual-Link DVI and DP for good bandwidth if needed), but:

1) DVI-I simply contains both sets of pins for VGA (via an adapter) and DVI

2) DVI-I and DVI-D have SINGLE and DUAL-LINK versions (Dual-Link supports higher bandwidth)

So as said the "I" and "D" versions have nothing directly to do with bandwidth and thus nothing to do with 60Hz vs 120Hz.

 

[bignastyid]

Now to get back on topic. Very few monitors use a DVI-I port, if they support DVI the usually use DVI-D. What games do you mainly play and whats the budget for a monitor?

Also you don't necessarily have to buy a new monitor you could us an active DVI-D to VGA converter/adapter and use your current monitor. The adapter will add a bit of latency but most never notice it and it's a cheaper option that a new monitor. I prefer the usb powered adapters as they tend to work better than the non powered versions.
https://www.amazon.com/gofanco-Pro-DVI-D-Active-Converter/dp/B00RWFT8NG/

 

[photonboy]

Now to get back on topic. Very few monitors use a DVI-I port, if they support DVI the usually use DVI-D. What games do you mainly play and whats the budget for a monitor?

Also you don't necessarily have to buy a new monitor you could us an active DVI-D to VGA converter/adapter and use your current monitor. The adapter will add a bit of latency but most never notice it and it's a cheaper option that a new monitor. I prefer the usb powered adapters as they tend to work better than the non powered versions.
https://www.amazon.com/gofanco-Pro-DVI-D-Active-Converter/dp/B00RWFT8NG/

THIS.
I didn't realize they were so cheap, though if the $120 monitor I mention was better than what you have now it's worth considering too. Really depends on the budget.

You're right about latency. It's probably not very noticeable, and as for picture quality I've had VGA attached to a flatscreen monitor and really couldn't tell the difference vs DVI.

*Make sure to read the customer comments to make sure it's a good product, but the above link seems fine.

There's also a DisplayPort->VGA adapter as well: https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=5135