Should I upgrade to Ryzen 2 Zen+?

[-Fran-]

In all honesty, my i7 2700K at 4.6Ghz still pulls its weight flawlessly and I have zero need for an upgrade, but... Damn if I'm not tempted to give AMD some money. I'm still wondering about a few things around Zen v1.5, so I'm waiting on more information from reviews, but everything points in the right direction for AMD. The most important bit I'm waiting on for the new platform, is Linux compatibility.

Cheers!

Once an Intel user, you should always be an intel user. Wait for a worth intel chip upgrade.

Uh? Why? xD

Cheers!

Because Intel's slowest i7 chip still delivers better Gaming Performance than AMD's best Ryzen chip. Unless you are 100% productivity. Intel is going to provide you with better long term value.

Uhm... Let's see...

* 486DX1: 1993-1998
* Pentium II 400: 1998-2003
* Pentium III 850 (OC'ed to ~980): 2003-2006
* Athlon64 X2 4200+ (Toledo): 2006-2010
* Phenom II 965BE rev.C: 2010-2012
* Core i7 2700K: 2012-today

I don't know... It sounds like AMD deserves another chance 😛

Cheers!

 

[Philballer17]

In all honesty, my i7 2700K at 4.6Ghz still pulls its weight flawlessly and I have zero need for an upgrade, but... Damn if I'm not tempted to give AMD some money. I'm still wondering about a few things around Zen v1.5, so I'm waiting on more information from reviews, but everything points in the right direction for AMD. The most important bit I'm waiting on for the new platform, is Linux compatibility.

Cheers!

Once an Intel user, you should always be an intel user. Wait for a worth intel chip upgrade.

Uh? Why? xD

Cheers!

Because Intel's slowest i7 chip still delivers better Gaming Performance than AMD's best Ryzen chip. Unless you are 100% productivity. Intel is going to provide you with better long term value.

Uhm... Let's see...

* 486DX1: 1993-1998
* Pentium II 400: 1998-2003
* Pentium III 850 (OC'ed to ~980): 2003-2006
* Athlon64 X2 4200+ (Toledo): 2006-2010
* Phenom II 965BE rev.C: 2010-2012
* Core i7 2700K: 2012-today

I don't know... It sounds like AMD deserves another chance 😛

Cheers!

Perhaps if you're not on 1080p. But if you're on 1440p or higher. Ryzen 7 2700x is a good idea.

 

[secretxax]

Once I get the money $$$!!! But if I was a millionaire/billionaire, I'd get the highest-end; currently either i9 or Xeon Platinum.

 

[ElectrO_90]

The survey is biased.
First question is - Do you want to upgrade?
If you are happy with your system, why would you even want to answer the survey?
If you are not happy with your system and you want to upgrade the question should follow about which CPU they want to upgrade to.
This is a very misleading Survey.

 

[10tacle]

The survey is biased.
First question is - Do you want to upgrade?
If you are happy with your system, why would you even want to answer the survey?
If you are not happy with your system and you want to upgrade the question should follow about which CPU they want to upgrade to.
This is a very misleading Survey.

How can the survey be "biased" or "misleading" in any way here? Biased against what? Misleading to whom? They are looking for statistics. Asking the question yields a percentage of those wanting to upgrade or not. Do you not see that as useful data? What else do you find useless and misleading in this survey? And regarding your idea of a follow up question should have been about what CPU to upgrade to, did you miss the title of the survey "Should I upgrade to Ryzen 2 Zen+?" Basic logic says this is not a survey for Intel chip owners who plan on upgrading to another Intel chip.

I found it very interesting similar to Steam's hardware survey on who owns newer hardware and who is still using older hardware from both AMD and Intel chipsets. As I stated previously, nearly half the respondents own pre-Kaby Lake 6th-generation Intel CPUs. That is extremely useful information by itself - if for anyone useful for Intel in that they need to understand why people are still hanging on to three, four, and five generation back chipsets. No offense intended, but I take it your career is not in the marketing business.

 

[theonerm2]

The survey is biased.
First question is - Do you want to upgrade?
If you are happy with your system, why would you even want to answer the survey?
If you are not happy with your system and you want to upgrade the question should follow about which CPU they want to upgrade to.
This is a very misleading Survey.

I'm happy with my system and I answered the survey.

 

[manleysteele]

I'm a 1440p gamer. I'm satisfied with my i7 7700K at present. I don't foresee a need to upgrade until I can become a 2880p gamer on one graphics card. I may or may not need to upgrade at that time. I've never seriously considered any of the X boards and CPU's. Too cheap. I'll revisit a higher core count and a higher end board if it becomes necessary. Until then, nothing to see here.

 

[Philballer17]

I'm a 1440p gamer. I'm satisfied with my i7 7700K at present. I don't foresee a need to upgrade until I can become a 2880p gamer on one graphics card. I may or may not need to upgrade at that time. I've never seriously considered any of the X boards and CPU's. Too cheap. I'll revisit a higher core count and a higher end board if it becomes necessary. Until then, nothing to see here.

1440p is becoming the new gaming standard resolution in my opinion. 1080p is going obsolete whether gamers want to admit that as being true or not. 1080p benchmarks on high end hardware such as the 1080 TI/8700k/R7 2700x no longer determine anything in my opinion and are utterly useless.

1440p and 4k force the GPU to become the bottleneck in games making it a wise decision to opt for CPU's that offer higher core counts and higher threads counts for productivity. 7700k on 1440p won't be obsolete for a very long time. Enjoy the chip while you can. For at-least the next 5-6 years.

 

[-Fran-]

Perhaps if you're not on 1080p. But if you're on 1440p or higher. Ryzen 7 2700x is a good idea.

Spoiler

I'm giving AMD the benefit of the doubt this gen. After reading all benchmarks and their updates, I'll give the 2700X a chance. Plus, I can say I moved from a 2700K to a 2700X and leave people wondering!

Cheers! 😛

 

[Philballer17]

Perhaps if you're not on 1080p. But if you're on 1440p or higher. Ryzen 7 2700x is a good idea.

Spoiler

I'm giving AMD the benefit of the doubt this gen. After reading all benchmarks and their updates, I'll give the 2700X a chance. Plus, I can say I moved from a 2700K to a 2700X and leave people wondering!

Cheers! 😛

That's a very good decision to make. If I was 2nd Gen i7, I would too.

 

[FD2Raptor]

I'm on a budget 2nd-hand PC, i5 3470 +8GB DDR3 so I'll be upgrading soon. Wanted to go all the way to either 8700k or 2700x but was unable to find the preferred parts for the build's color scheme so I'll settle with the 2600/2600x whichever is available first in my region.

Ok. Currently, building my Ryzen 2600x/X470 now.

 

[Ezilkannan]

I've been waiting so long for AMD to come up with a processor that has decent IPC, alas, Zen+ is a disappointment in that regard. It's a shame though, I have been wanting to make the switch to Ryzen if only AMD pumped their IPC. I'm gonna have to wait for the next Intel chip. Its going to be more expensive, but what choice do I got? sigh...
P.S: I'm on a 2500K at the moment and it has begun to show its age.

 

[ElectrO_90]

Ezilkannan, you must be reading totally different websites than most of us.

 

[Ezilkannan]

Isn't Zen+ still behind Intel in IPC?

 

[FD2Raptor]

Isn't Zen+ still behind Intel in IPC?

If you think a 4Ghz Ryzen 5 2600x slightly edge out an i7 4770k in single core is still "behind in IPC", then I suppose you're right:

 

[randomizer]

If you think a 4Ghz Ryzen 5 2600x slightly edge out an i7 4770k in single core is still "behind in IPC", then I suppose you're right

I wouldn't be doing a victory march after just beating a 5 year old chip.

 

[Ezilkannan]

Really? After all this time this is what they can deliver? I am disappointed.

 

[-Fran-]

Zen v1.5 using GloFo's 12nm is still behind Intel's Covfefe/Kaby Lake 14nm/+ in IPC and raw clock speed, yes. It balances that deficiency with more cores that come in handy for other things that don't depend in low thread performance. In terms of value, it is well positioned against Intel.

If you're looking for low threaded performance, then go Intel and be happy. If you're looking for a good all-rounder, AMD has a really compelling option now. I think that is the best summary I can come up with.

The shoe gets tight in different places for everyone, so...

Cheers!

 

[gdmaclew]

You really shouldn't be so hung up on "pure" IPC numbers. What is important is how well the particular CPU runs the programs\games you are using.
It would be like saying car A does 127 mph and car B only does 123 mph. They both still get you there fast.

 

[Philballer17]

You really shouldn't be so hung up on "pure" IPC numbers. What is important is how well the particular CPU runs the programs\games you are using.
It would be like saying car A does 127 mph and car B only does 123 mph. They both still get you there fast.

But if you're not first place, then you're considered a loser.

 

[-Fran-]

You really shouldn't be so hung up on "pure" IPC numbers. What is important is how well the particular CPU runs the programs\games you are using.
It would be like saying car A does 127 mph and car B only does 123 mph. They both still get you there fast.

But if you're not first place, then you're considered a loser.

LOL.

Troll much?

 

[gdmaclew]

It is a shame, isn't it?
It ignores the upside of AMD products - like competition...real good competition.
Anybody doubt the fact that Intel would not have released a 18-core CPU if AMD hadn't done their 16-core first?

And Threadripper sounds way cooler than i9-7980XE.

 

[Philballer17]

I still can't say I'm disappointed with AMD. I mean, They have to compete against both Nvidia and Intel all by their lonely selves..

 

[btmedic04]

car a may do 127mph in a straight line, while car b only does 123, but when it comes to cornering, car b is more agile and can handle the turns at higher speeds. they both have their strengths and weaknesses, but are still very good choices

 

[Lumpus]

Since I'm running an old i5-2500k too, the 2600x looks like a big improvement and not badly situated on the price/performance graphs