Question Should TRIM be on or off for an NVMe SSD on an iMac ?

[fzabkar]

I replied to your post on Thursday at 9.43. With references. Scroll back and you will see it.
I take exception to your unwarrented personal remarks fzabkar. You are most offensive in your attitude. You need to grow up and learn some courtesy. Non of your presumptions are justified and your childish partisanship is entirely out of place in discussing this topic.

I saw an empty post at 9:38AM. I interpreted that as a snub. I missed your follow-up post because it was not addressed to me. Sorry.

I now see you have quoted a post by "Hyram". It's still just technobabble. Moreover, Hyram's final statement is complete and utter garbage. It's a bizarre concoction of an overactive imagination.

• Until Apple can implement an intelligent TRIM system — one that can respond to the SSD’s built in characteristics data and adjust its own timings to match, as Windows does — then the only safe, reliable non-factory SSD you can trust with Mac OS X is Intel’s X-25 series. Everything else dies after six to ten months’ regular use.

I would prefer to see an authoritative reference, eg one that comes from Apple or an SSD manufacturer.

One thing is true about Apple -- it uses proprietary interfaces in its earlier models to prevent its captive users from installing less expensive third-party SSDs. To me, that is an unconscionable practice. Locking TRIM support to Apple supplied SSDs is just another way to cripple these third-party SSDs and make Apple's SSDs look better. That's yet another unconscionable practice.

BTW, if you believe Apple is above crippling the performance of its products ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate

 

[Australopithicus]

I saw an empty post at 9:38AM. I interpreted that as a snub. I missed your follow-up post because it was not addressed to me. Sorry.

I now see you have quoted a post by "Hyram". It's still just technobabble. Moreover, Hyram's final statement is complete and utter garbage. It's a bizarre concoction of an overactive imagination.



I would prefer to see an authoritative reference, eg one that comes from Apple or an SSD manufacturer.

One thing is true about Apple -- it uses proprietary interfaces in its earlier models to prevent its captive users from installing less expensive third-party SSDs. To me, that is an unconscionable practice. Locking TRIM support to Apple supplied SSDs is just another way to cripple these third-party SSDs and make Apple's SSDs look better. That's yet another unconscionable practice.

BTW, if you believe Apple is above crippling the performance of its products ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate

I entirely agree with you regarding Apple manufacturing/product design behaviour. Similar to Microsofts constant DOS (QDOS) attempts to upgrade a conceptually inadequate o/s. Welcome to Capitalism.
I need no convincing and the whole subject of corporate behaviour is entirely off-topic. Meanwhile, you have an axe to grind with Apple - take it to Apple.
I agree the quote you selected from Hyram is bizarre and discredits all he states.
Now answer my question if you will.
I note you do not apologise for your personal comments regarding Fanboy and my beliefs, of which you know nothing, I ask you to please do so. Otherwise refrain from any further communication.
Such behaviour is unacceptable, discredits you personally and devalues your opinion.

 

[fzabkar]

I note you do not apologise for your personal comments regarding Fanboy and my beliefs, of which you know nothing, I ask you to please do so. Otherwise refrain from any further communication.
Such behaviour is unacceptable, discredits you personally and devalues your opinion.

Why did you reply to my request for references with an empty post? That came across as rude and I interpreted it as a snub. Was I wrong to do so?

BTW, when I asked for a reference, I meant an authoritative one (eg "Apple or SSD manufacturer"), not from some person with unverifiable credentials.

 

[ex_bubblehead]

Alright, let's knock off the sniping and get back to the posted topic. Any further infighting beyond this point will score sanctions.