Small Form Factor Gaming PC Help.

[GoldenRiver]

OK I will be building this pc *if* my dad decides to not help pay for the other full tower build i have posted. I will post a few questions at the end. thanks.

$89.99 - Thermaltake LANBOX Lite VF6000BWS Black SECC Japanese steel Gaming Cube Computer Case - Retail

PSU - Can this hold regular ATX???

$209.99 - Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM

$69.99 - Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

$134.99 - ASUS P5B-VM DO LGA 775 Intel Q965 Express Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131085

OR OR OR

$126.99 - GIGABYTE GA-965QM-DS2 LGA 775 Intel Q965 Express Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128038

$310 - Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail

$154.99 - G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

Timings: 4-4-3-5 =]

$45.99 - Thermaltake CL-P0257 Blue orb II CPU Cooler for LGA775 & K8 - Retail

$559.99 - EVGA 768-P2-N831-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - Retail

OR OR OR OR OR OR OR OR

EVGA 640-P2-N825-AR GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SUPERCLOCKED HDCP Video Card - Retail

$41.99 - LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner with LightScribe - OEM

1. What size power supply do i need if it is micro atx point out a good one for me plz =]

2. which motherboard the asus or gigabyte? or other?

3. should i get the gtx and sacrifice the hard drive bay or get the gts and sacrifice performance for the hard drive bay?

 

[prong]

I just narrowed down my selection for a build I'm currently working on to the EXACT same two MBs you posted! LOL! A couple of weeks ago I built the P5B-VM (not the DO) and I tore it down an retured it for the P5B-VM DO I have sitting here now. I can tell you the BIOS is badly underdeveloped for P5B-VM and apparently the P5B-VM DO also. There is no lock for the PCI frequency in BIOS. I haven't set up the P5B-VM DO yet. The ASUS P5B-VM DO has 4 phase voltage regulators (as opppsed to the 8 phase on the 965P P5B-Deluxe).

I returned the P5B-VM (not the DO) because it just would not work well with my the 805-D I set it up with and the RAID function on that board is a joke. The P5B-VM DO has a great RAID controller onboard. The processor I used is a 533 mhz. FSB edition and I just culdn't get my RAM to cooperate so I returned it. The ASUS has no warning, but on the website manual for the Gigabyte 965Q board you are looking at, it clearly states in the onlne manual you must use an 800 mhz. FSB processor to achieve PC6400 800 mhz. speeds. The 965Q chipsets may also be more sensitve and require RAM that can run at 1.8 mhz., I'm not entirely certain of this. I am using rare PC6400 that has a 1.8 mhz. stability value. The Gigabyte board has an Award Bios and the ASUS has American Megatrends something to consider. HTH.

 

[GoldenRiver]

lol ok basically most micro atx motherboards are crap. right? and help answer a few other questions plz =]

 

[prong]

Nothing wrong with micro. They hold up pretty well as far as performance is concerned. Here the 965G chip performs just as well as the 965P.

http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2948&p=3