Question So i just upgraded my 1060 to a 3060 but it feels like a downgrade.

[AriArctic]

I have been experiancing hard random stutters that take my fps from 144-244 frames all the way down to 6 frames for several seconds at a time (4-6 seconds.) ive done some testing and expiramenting but this seems to happen when the ingame frame limiter is as high or higher then the frames my computer is making. this never happened on the 1060. I have used DDU to uninstall then reinstalled my graphics drivers. turned off overclocking, high and low graphics settings. doesnt matter the variables the stuttering goes away when i limit the frames in game below the frames my computer makes. i need some help and information cause while im good with computers this has me stumped. is this normal? am i bottlenecking? does this brand new gpu that i just bought have a defect. just wanna know whats going on.
P.S this mostly effects marvel rivals (low settings) and only overwatch on epic quality.

Ryzen 9 5900X 12 core
Nvidia Geforce 3060 12 gb (not ti)
32 gb ddr4 ram
750 watt corsair Psu
2 hard drives
4tb nvme
120 gb ssd
dvd drive
Windows 11 on the nvme
244 hz monitor display port
60hz hdmi monitor.

 

[Eximo]

If you ask the GPU to make maximum FPS, and anything happens in the system you will get you stutters. It is a common recommendation to set a frame rate limit below your system's capabilities for stability/consistency. Faster GPU also means more demand on your CPU and system, double check that you aren't hitting CPU core usage limits.

As for why the old card seemed to work better, that could very well be a feature you didn't have available to you is now enabled on the new card. Doublecheck the settings, and if any game has the capability to have its shader cache cleared, do so. Could just be remnants of the old architecture not matching up to the new card.

120GB SSD seems out of place, hopefully not a boot drive? Highly possible that this new GPU, using more system resources, is causing issues with your chipset attached storage getting data into the CPU.

It is always possible to get a defective product. Benchmarking is usually the way to tell. So pick something standard and repeatable that you can compare your 3060 against. Keep monitoring tools open like GPU-Z and Hardware Monitor to see if anything is out of place.

 

[AriArctic]

If you ask the GPU to make maximum FPS, and anything happens in the system you will get you stutters. It is a common recommendation to set a frame rate limit below your system's capabilities for stability/consistency. Faster GPU also means more demand on your CPU and system, double check that you aren't hitting CPU core usage limits.

As for why the old card seemed to work better, that could very well be a feature you didn't have available to you is now enabled on the new card. Doublecheck the settings, and if any game has the capability to have its shader cache cleared, do so. Could just be remnants of the old architecture not matching up to the new card.

120GB SSD seems out of place, hopefully not a boot drive? Highly possible that this new GPU, using more system resources, is causing issues with your chipset attached storage getting data into the CPU.

It is always possible to get a defective product. Benchmarking is usually the way to tell. So pick something standard and repeatable that you can compare your 3060 against. Keep monitoring tools open like GPU-Z and Hardware Monitor to see if anything is out of place.

The 120 gb ssd was my old boot drive. it boots off the nvme. i tried to take the ssd out but it caused booting issues for some reason so i keep it in there. some kind of sata thing i think. the ssd has nothing on it.

Is keeping the frames limited below what it makes somthing that newer cards require? ive never had anything this new gpu wise before. as for the cpu ive been monitoring that and it never goes above 40% usage.

As for new features anything i should look for in the Nvidia app? The settings i have in game are the same settings ive used for years on overwatch. and the marvel rivals settings are the same ones i used for the 1060. so just a bit interested on why the stutters happen.

Ill try a benchmark on Heaven with GPU-Z

 

[Eximo]

Well you have a 12 core, 40% isn't really the answer. You need to look at the cores individually to see if any are getting maxed out. Games still aren't that multithreaded generally.

Not so much a thing with newer GPUs. Just in general. If you can briefly do 300 FPS, but your average is 180 or something, then games will feel very inconsistent as the FPS ramps up and down. With your older GPU, the max FPS you could achieve would have been less, so less load on everything.

As always while testing and troubleshooting, keep an eye on temperatures.

Ah, you probably still have your boot sector on the SSD. That is actually something of mild concern. If that drive dies the system won't know where to locate the OS. Here is a step by step guide:

View: https://youtu.be/oaH20g1kypA

Once done you should be able to remove the SATA SSD, and set your boot order directly to the NVMe drive and boot successfully.

 

[AriArctic]

Well you have a 12 core, 40% isn't really the answer. You need to look at the cores individually to see if any are getting maxed out. Games still aren't that multithreaded generally.

Not so much a thing with newer GPUs. Just in general. If you can briefly do 300 FPS, but your average is 180 or something, then games will feel very inconsistent as the FPS ramps up and down. With your older GPU, the max FPS you could achieve would have been less, so less load on everything.

As always while testing and troubleshooting, keep an eye on temperatures.

Ah, you probably still have your boot sector on the SSD. That is actually something of mild concern. If that drive dies the system won't know where to locate the OS. Here is a step by step guide:

View: https://youtu.be/oaH20g1kypA

Once done you should be able to remove the SATA SSD, and set your boot order directly to the NVMe drive and boot successfully.

It did slight half second stutters thats why min fps is 9. but nothing nears as bad as Marvel Rivals

The temps average 50-60 C on the gpu.
Thanks for the guide on that ssd thing ill fix it.
How do i check each individual core?

 

[faalin]

The 120 gb ssd was my old boot drive. it boots off the nvme. i tried to take the ssd out but it caused booting issues for some reason so i keep it in there. some kind of sata thing i think. the ssd has nothing on it.

Is keeping the frames limited below what it makes somthing that newer cards require? ive never had anything this new gpu wise before. as for the cpu ive been monitoring that and it never goes above 40% usage.

As for new features anything i should look for in the Nvidia app? The settings i have in game are the same settings ive used for years on overwatch. and the marvel rivals settings are the same ones i used for the 1060. so just a bit interested on why the stutters happen.

Ill try a benchmark on Heaven with GPU-Z

Cant help on the GPU but.

If you had windows installed on the 120GB drive then attached the 4TB drive and installed windows on it. The windows install sees that there is a boot loader on the old 120Gb drive and doesnt install a new one on the 4TB drive. That is way if you remove the 120GB drive windows will not boot.

There is a good walk through in here to add a boot loader to your existing windows install

 

[Eximo]

It did slight half second stutters thats why min fps is 9. but nothing nears as bad as Marvel Rivals

The temps average 50-60 C on the gpu.
Thanks for the guide on that ssd thing ill fix it.
How do i check each individual core?

Heaven is a little dated for a 3060, won't be using the tensor or ray tracing cores at all.

9.6 is a serious stutter, and I wouldn't expect that in Heaven once it is loaded into memory. Normally I would look at software causes, but since you didn't have this issue with the previous GPU, that should rule that out.

What are your spinning drives set up to do? And do you run much from them? A hard drive coming out of sleep mode can certainly cause system wide stutters. You can change it under performance settings so that they don't fall asleep, but that does mean they spin all the time slowly wearing out the bearings.

As for looking at the CPUs, so many tools out there. I mentioned Hardware Monitor earlier, MSI Afterburner for GPUs also shows the CPU cores. Windows Task Manager you can set the view to logical processors instead of overall. Ryzen Master can show you everything about the CPU.

 

[AriArctic]

Heaven is a little dated for a 3060, won't be using the tensor or ray tracing cores at all.

9.6 is a serious stutter, and I wouldn't expect that in Heaven once it is loaded into memory. Normally I would look at software causes, but since you didn't have this issue with the previous GPU, that should rule that out.

What are your spinning drives set up to do? And do you run much from them? A hard drive coming out of sleep mode can certainly cause system wide stutters. You can change it under performance settings so that they don't fall asleep, but that does mean they spin all the time slowly wearing out the bearings.

As for looking at the CPUs, so many tools out there. I mentioned Hardware Monitor earlier, MSI Afterburner for GPUs also shows the CPU cores. Windows Task Manager you can set the view to logical processors instead of overall. Ryzen Master can show you everything about the CPU.

Heavens, Overwatch, And Rivals as well as my other really big games are on the NVME only my smaller games that dont require much are on the Hard Drives so my issues dont involve them.

 

[Eximo]

Shouldn't matter too much, but are you on the latest drivers for all of your hardware? BIOS up to date on the motherboard?

The one that always used to catch me out was sound drivers causing issues.

 

[AriArctic]

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This is the second test with GPU-Z: https://jmp.sh/s/zHX9FaJRoolq6kmdvssm

 

[AriArctic]

Shouldn't matter too much, but are you on the latest drivers for all of your hardware? BIOS up to date on the motherboard?

The one that always used to catch me out was sound drivers causing issues.

I check my drivers and updates everyday and their all up to date.
actually had a sound driver causing issues on my last motherboard figured it out pretty quickly tho