Some AMD 970 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Vishera CPUs

[TheSolidMoose]

I was building my first PC but then this incompatibility note comes up, I have searched a little bit and my question is what if they don't have an update? This is my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FD9LnQ

 

[TheSolidMoose]

How long will the $1000 build last me? Hopefully 20 years?

 

[damric]

How long will the $1000 build last me? Hopefully 20 years?

No lol. You get diminishing returns and stuff becomes obsolete very quickly. I'd probably go with the GTX 960 build. Just turn the AA down and it should be over 60FPS on Ultra (that review used 4xAA). You are still in the sweet spot for price/performance.

 

[TheSolidMoose]

What is AA? And should I get 60hz monitor or 120hz? It seems that 60 hz has a lot of screen tearing.

 

[TheSolidMoose]

Do I need fans? How many should I get as a minimum?

 

[TheSolidMoose]

And how long can this build last me?

 

[damric]

Anti-aliasing. It's extra sampling to smooth out jagged edges. It can make the picture look better but it causes a performance hit and uses more VRAM.

You won't need any aftermarket fans with that setup.

It will last a while for 1080p 60Hz gaming.

120Hz is actually very hard to do, not for graphics cards, but for CPUs. At that refresh rate, CPU becomes a huge bottleneck as it stuggles with the game engine. For the graphics part, you can always get a faster graphics card or turn down the settings to get 120Hz, but if your CPU stutters it won't make a difference. This is why I tell people to get higher resolution instead of higher refresh rate.

 

[TheSolidMoose]

But the screen tearing is really bad with 60 hz

 

[TheSolidMoose]

And what temp will it be? Are you sure it is fine without any fans?

 

[damric]

But the screen tearing is really bad with 60 hz

But are you going to buy a rig like this?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($415.00 @ Canada Computers)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($171.45 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 295X2 8GB Core Edition Video Card ($899.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($97.25 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($194.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $2138.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-06 19:52 EDT-0400

 

[damric]

And what temp will it be? Are you sure it is fine without any fans?

Yes the GTX 960 runs rather cool and that case has good enough stock fans for that.

 

[TheSolidMoose]

Is your build better than my original one? (On the very first question, I had a build link with the Fx 6300 and r9 285)

 

[damric]

Yes.

 

[TheSolidMoose]

But the fps on bf4 high settings is around 70-80 FPS on that pc but for this one it's only like 60-70 FPS

 

[TheSolidMoose]

It just seems that the cpu is a bigger bottleneck than the fx 6300

 

[TheSolidMoose]

Instead of the gtx 960, should I get r9 280?

 

[damric]

But the fps on bf4 high settings is around 70-80 FPS on that pc but for this one it's only like 60-70 FPS

Where are you getting that information? 60FPS is maximum displayable on a 60Hz monitor, btw.

It just seems that the cpu is a bigger bottleneck than the fx 6300

It's not.

Instead of the gtx 960, should I get r9 280?

You could, but you would need a bigger PSU to get less performance in BF4.

 

[TheSolidMoose]

Ok, and I switched the hard drive, I felt like I needed more space. I chose a Seagate Barracuda, is that ok?

 

[TheSolidMoose]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPH3WzwBPoU
5 days ago - Uploaded by MikE Del Angel
Battlefield 4 Test Online Perdiendo por que soy NOOB /GTX 960 + INTEL I3 4150 3.5 GHZ ...
This is the performance of the GTX 960

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WQxr59KRto
And this is performance of another build.

 

[damric]

Every tried recording a game in high quality? It freaking eats CPU logical cores. That is not bad considering still sustatining 40FPS with all 4 logical cores at 100%. I have no doubt that when not recording that the CPU is no bottleneck at all. That recording is so demanding. I tell people to get Haswell-E i7 when serious about doing that.

HDD is slow and slow down your level loading. I usually tell everyone to get SSD first and add a HDD later if needed. This way you get your OS and main games on the SSD right away.

 

[damric]

Ugh the build in the second video is so bad. Bad PSU, bad everything...

 

[TheSolidMoose]

Lol ok, and your SSD you gave me seems to have very little storage, just Bf4 take up 54 gb

 

[TheSolidMoose]

What hard drive would you reccomend me then? I'm sure 128GB is definately not enough, and for your gtx 960 with i3, can it play 200 fps on bf4 low settings?

 

[TheSolidMoose]

And I don't mind waiting longer with the loading, aslong as it doesn't effect the gameplay or fps. So in that case should I keep the barracuda?

 

[TheSolidMoose]

I am also planning on getting i5 4670K, do I need better PSU?

 

[damric]

I am also planning on getting i5 4670K, do I need better PSU?

For HDD, I like the WD Blacks for reliability.

If you are going to spend over $300 on a CPU, make sure it's got 8 logical cores:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($336.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.95 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($96.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($91.50 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card ($259.75 @ Vuugo)
Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 400W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $1070.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-08 03:46 EDT-0400

Haswell Xeon is an i7 without the IGPU, and it has a few other features useful for workstations. It's just a tiny bit more than that i5, but a hell of a lot more performance.