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I have a Williams Sorcerer systems 9 game. It worked
for one game. The second game (the second 'power on') the volume was cut in
half. Using science, I determined flicking the power switch on and off
several times may clear up the issue. 🙂

Now the sounds/speech are at extremely low levels. While runnig the sound
test via the diagnostics, you cannot hear the sounds unless my ear is right
against the speaker. There is no electrical hum - nothing. Just some very,
very faint sounds.

I've played with (without replacing) the volume pots on both the coin door
and sound bought. Again using the most advanced scientific method known to
me, I've diddled with the connectors, wiring, EPROMS, etc....

I have not yet started replacing any components. I wanted to solict some
advice first. Any help would be
apprecited in diagnosing the problem.

Thanks,
Bill
 
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There are two pots that control the sound in a System 9 machine.

One sets the speech/sound balance, and is located on the speech board.
It does not sound like this is your problem.

The second is a pot inside the cabinet on the left wall. Does the
sound volume change when you turn this? Only the game play volume
changes. The attract mode volume does not change.

Edward Cheung
 
Archived from groups: rec.games.pinball (More info?)

I'm rebuilding a Sorcerer for a friend. Maybe it is a SYS 9 issue,
maybe it's spcific to this game, or these apriticular components, but I
have found that this game has two volumes, nearly silent and
EARSPLITTING. Adjust your pots carefully.

Cheers!!
Bob
 
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Bill,

Check your speaker.

--
PinTed


bayoubilly wrote:
> I have a Williams Sorcerer systems 9 game. It worked
> for one game. The second game (the second 'power on') the volume was cut in
> half. Using science, I determined flicking the power switch on and off
> several times may clear up the issue. 🙂
>
> Now the sounds/speech are at extremely low levels. While runnig the sound
> test via the diagnostics, you cannot hear the sounds unless my ear is right
> against the speaker. There is no electrical hum - nothing. Just some very,
> very faint sounds.
>
> I've played with (without replacing) the volume pots on both the coin door
> and sound bought. Again using the most advanced scientific method known to
> me, I've diddled with the connectors, wiring, EPROMS, etc....
>
> I have not yet started replacing any components. I wanted to solict some
> advice first. Any help would be
> apprecited in diagnosing the problem.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
 
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hi - thanks for the reply.

I have messed with both pots - the one on the sounds card and the one within
the cabinet. I have do so during an active game, during attract mode, and
also during diagnostics. The volume does not change at all. Its very
faint, barely audible without change at all times. There isn't ven an
electrical hum or "cracking" as generated by a dirty pot.

Still not sure....


"beaver" <ed@edcheung.com> wrote in message
news:1127756939.614708.67040@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> There are two pots that control the sound in a System 9 machine.
>
> One sets the speech/sound balance, and is located on the speech board.
> It does not sound like this is your problem.
>
> The second is a pot inside the cabinet on the left wall. Does the
> sound volume change when you turn this? Only the game play volume
> changes. The attract mode volume does not change.
>
> Edward Cheung
>
 
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bad chip?
http://www.pinballrom.com
http://www.pinballroms.com

I'm curious how this turns out. My Space Shuttle before the power supply
(maybe a cap) went, the speech was barely audible. Sound worked though.

--
Josh
http://www.pingeek.com
Pinball dvds for sale online and at The York Show, 10/7 - 10/8,
http://www.theyorkshow.com
"bayoubilly" <bmichalo@cisco.com> wrote in message
news:cpmdnRn_mcMqqqXeRVn-gQ@net1plus.com...
>
> hi - thanks for the reply.
>
> I have messed with both pots - the one on the sounds card and the one
> within
> the cabinet. I have do so during an active game, during attract mode, and
> also during diagnostics. The volume does not change at all. Its very
> faint, barely audible without change at all times. There isn't ven an
> electrical hum or "cracking" as generated by a dirty pot.
>
> Still not sure....
>
>
> "beaver" <ed@edcheung.com> wrote in message
> news:1127756939.614708.67040@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> There are two pots that control the sound in a System 9 machine.
>>
>> One sets the speech/sound balance, and is located on the speech board.
>> It does not sound like this is your problem.
>>
>> The second is a pot inside the cabinet on the left wall. Does the
>> sound volume change when you turn this? Only the game play volume
>> changes. The attract mode volume does not change.
>>
>> Edward Cheung
>>
>
>
 
Archived from groups: rec.games.pinball (More info?)

Not sure, but I would a bad ROM would omit certain speech, but have no
effect on the volume.

I don't have immediate access to an EPROM burner... but I will take it into
consideration if no other good leads arise. I have some friends that can
burn chips for me.

Thanks,
Bill


"Pin Geek" <josh.kaplan1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Ge-dnUyELYf0pKXenZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@comcast.com...
> bad chip?
> http://www.pinballrom.com
> http://www.pinballroms.com
>
> I'm curious how this turns out. My Space Shuttle before the power supply
> (maybe a cap) went, the speech was barely audible. Sound worked though.
>
> --
> Josh
> http://www.pingeek.com
> Pinball dvds for sale online and at The York Show, 10/7 - 10/8,
> http://www.theyorkshow.com
> "bayoubilly" <bmichalo@cisco.com> wrote in message
> news:cpmdnRn_mcMqqqXeRVn-gQ@net1plus.com...
> >
> > hi - thanks for the reply.
> >
> > I have messed with both pots - the one on the sounds card and the one
> > within
> > the cabinet. I have do so during an active game, during attract mode,
and
> > also during diagnostics. The volume does not change at all. Its very
> > faint, barely audible without change at all times. There isn't ven an
> > electrical hum or "cracking" as generated by a dirty pot.
> >
> > Still not sure....
> >
> >
> > "beaver" <ed@edcheung.com> wrote in message
> > news:1127756939.614708.67040@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> There are two pots that control the sound in a System 9 machine.
> >>
> >> One sets the speech/sound balance, and is located on the speech board.
> >> It does not sound like this is your problem.
> >>
> >> The second is a pot inside the cabinet on the left wall. Does the
> >> sound volume change when you turn this? Only the game play volume
> >> changes. The attract mode volume does not change.
> >>
> >> Edward Cheung
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
 
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I looked at it. It seems fine, with cone intact and wires attached.


"PinTed" <Pinted@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1127763460.855237.153150@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Bill,
>
> Check your speaker.
>
> --
> PinTed
>
>
> bayoubilly wrote:
> > I have a Williams Sorcerer systems 9 game. It worked
> > for one game. The second game (the second 'power on') the volume was
cut in
> > half. Using science, I determined flicking the power switch on and off
> > several times may clear up the issue. 🙂
> >
> > Now the sounds/speech are at extremely low levels. While runnig the
sound
> > test via the diagnostics, you cannot hear the sounds unless my ear is
right
> > against the speaker. There is no electrical hum - nothing. Just some
very,
> > very faint sounds.
> >
> > I've played with (without replacing) the volume pots on both the coin
door
> > and sound bought. Again using the most advanced scientific method known
to
> > me, I've diddled with the connectors, wiring, EPROMS, etc....
> >
> > I have not yet started replacing any components. I wanted to solict
some
> > advice first. Any help would be
> > apprecited in diagnosing the problem.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bill
>
 
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Thanks Edward (and everyone). I'll have to find a replacement part and do
some soldering...

- Bill


"beaver" <ed@edcheung.com> wrote in message
news:1127773176.026867.255990@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I think then that you have a bad amplifier. It is U59 on the CPU board
> (near a corner).
>
> Edward Cheung
>
 
Archived from groups: rec.games.pinball (More info?)

If the volume pots and the speaker are ok usually one MC1458 op amp on the speech
board is dead. You might want to replace both.

On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:08:56 -0400, bayoubilly wrote:

>>
>>I have a Williams Sorcerer systems 9 game. It worked
>>for one game. The second game (the second 'power on') the volume was cut in
>>half. Using science, I determined flicking the power switch on and off
>>several times may clear up the issue. 🙂
>>
>>Now the sounds/speech are at extremely low levels. While runnig the sound
>>test via the diagnostics, you cannot hear the sounds unless my ear is right
>>against the speaker. There is no electrical hum - nothing. Just some very,
>>very faint sounds.
>>
>>I've played with (without replacing) the volume pots on both the coin door
>>and sound bought. Again using the most advanced scientific method known to
>>me, I've diddled with the connectors, wiring, EPROMS, etc....
>>
>>I have not yet started replacing any components. I wanted to solict some
>>advice first. Any help would be
>>apprecited in diagnosing the problem.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Bill
>>
>>


Regards
Frank-Rainer Grahl
(frgrahl@REMOVE.ME.gmx.net)
 
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