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More info?)
Hi, sorry looked through my post and saw that I put the SP1 cpu to agp
version, that should read SP2's version, apologies....
Chris C
"Chris" <anon@school.com> wrote in message
news:cp6j5p$6ci$1@newsfeed.th.ifl.net...
> Hi, I think the way to do it is to d/load the 4.53's, start the setup and
> click on uninstall, that should remove the hyperions, make sure you backup
> your system first. Now re-install the 4.53 but use normal install and
> uncheck the cpu to agp, let the install take place then reboot and install
> the 4.55's. Hopefully this will keep SP2's MS driver....
> Chris C
> "Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:39D3C4DD-178D-4093-B62A-05DCBD49E8C2@microsoft.com...
>> Actually your right I have used the 4.53 every time , I just d/l the 4.55
>> the other day which is supposed to NOT install the AGP driver if you have
>> SP2
>> installed.....that Just may be the problem!!!
>>
>> I allways install my System like this:
>>
>> XP Pro/SP1
>>
>> SP2 (on disk)
>>
>> DX9C (installed with SP2)
>>
>> VIA 4 in 1's (4.53)
>>
>> other mobo Drivers , NIC , SATA.....
>>
>> Video
>>
>> Sound
>>
>> I get all updates
>>
>> EVERYTIHNG ELSE.
>>
>> I think I will try it without the VIA AGP driver this time and see what
>> shakes!!!
>>
>> HEY!! I wonder if I can roll back my AGP driver to the SP1 and just
>> upgrade
>> to SP2 without doing a whole reformat??? I may try that first , if you
>> don't
>> here from me it didn't work and I can't reinstall XP till after Christmas
>> (will be working this weekend Till!!) or I guess I could use my wifes
>> PC......if she'll let me , hers works flawlessly with SP2 =(
>>
>> GREAT INFO!! man I hope this works.....allthough I really don't know why
>> I'm trying to install SP 2 so badly.....its a sickness I think.
>>
>> Have a Fantastc Holliday!!! =)
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> "Chris Catt" wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rob, this might be a long shot but have you by any chance used ver
>>> 4.53
>>> of the Via 4 in 1's and installed via's own cpu to agp driver. It is
>>> recommended to use the MS one that comes with SP1, even via have
>>> recognised
>>> the problem and the latest 4 in 1's do not install the via driver. It
>>> was
>>> just what BadDg said about it linked to the video card that made me
>>> think
>>> it might be this....
>>> Chris C
>>> "Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:E1041825-8A97-4CCA-A0D7-5C743FB2767F@microsoft.com...
>>> > Hello again Chris ,
>>> >
>>> > Yes maybe you and BadDg are right , "Major issue" is probably
>>> > overstating
>>> > it a bit I guess when I saw all the folks at the AMD 64 support forums
>>> > having
>>> > the same issues I just assumed it to be that bad , I think I'm just
>>> > gonna
>>> > have to deal with not using SP2 on my 64 system.
>>> >
>>> > My 2800XP works fine though , NOT 1 probelm as a matter fact its more
>>> > stable , with nearly all the same hardware (drivers and soforth)
>>> > except
>>> > for
>>> > the onboard sound.
>>> >
>>> > But I can't even run SP2 on my 64 for a week without IE6 and OE
>>> > giveing me
>>> > errors and having to have DEP ignore them then alot of other programs
>>> > follow
>>> > , my guide plus+ (not a nessessary program I know , but I like it =) )
>>> > will
>>> > not even start , and forget Norton IS and Zone Alarm.
>>> >
>>> > I'm going to give it 1 more try and this time I'm going to test it
>>> > with
>>> > every driver install untill I find the problem...and then i give up.
>>> >
>>> > PS: I have a K8V SE Dlx with a AMD63 3200 (1mb L2) and I love it!! I
>>> > love
>>> > ASUS boards =)
>>> >
>>> > Thanks Chris
>>> >
>>> > "Chris Catt" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi, maybe AMD are aware of something I'm not but my system is working
>>> >> flawlessly, Asus A8V AMD64 3500 Winchester, SP2, dep turned on for
>>> >> all
>>> >> programs and services. If there was a 'major' issue then all of the
>>> >> newsgroups, forms and press would be full of it, which they aren't.
>>> >> Stating
>>> >> that it's a 'major', issue is, in my opinion overstating the case.
>>> >> I'm
>>> >> not
>>> >> in anyway indenting to insult or flame you but we should steer clear
>>> >> of
>>> >> using such emotive words....
>>> >> Chris C
>>> >> Chris C
>>> >> "Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> >> news:A72FFBFF-9754-46B1-A44E-9E90F8E2DC82@microsoft.com...
>>> >> >
http://forums.amd.com/index.php?s=6e771d101b6b8faac7da2a639f9b8c8b&showforum=7
>>> >> >
>>> >> > These are the offical AMD Prosesser Forums , in here under any
>>> >> > heading
>>> >> > with
>>> >> > the words AMD 64's and XP SP2 in the title you will find the info
>>> >> > I'm
>>> >> > talking
>>> >> > about including a response from AMD Tech Support admitting the
>>> >> > problem
>>> >> > with
>>> >> > the suggestion NOT to install SP2 untill MS fixes it.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The letter from AMD support as found on their Forums is as follows:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thank you for contacting AMD's Technical Service Center.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > As I stated, there is no difficulties from a hardware perspective.
>>> >> > All
>>> >> > of the conflicts arising are driver related (Mpegport.sys, etc).
>>> >> > These
>>> >> > drivers were written in such a way that they conflict with
>>> >> > Microsoft's
>>> >> > implementation of DEP. We also tested SP2 with our processors prior
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > its release and found no conflicts. Somewhere between the beta
>>> >> > build
>>> >> > we have of SP2 and final release, new issues have risen.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > These problems are associated with AMD because we are the only ones
>>> >> > at
>>> >> > the moment that have Enhanced Virus Protection. When Intel comes
>>> >> > out
>>> >> > with their next round, they will also have something like EVP
>>> >> > (actually, exactly the same thing just with a different name).
>>> >> > Windows
>>> >> > XP SP2 will have the same problems with those processors as well.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Unfortunately, we are paying the price for being an industry leader
>>> >> > in
>>> >> > this area. SP2 has more problems than just the DEP, yet this is
>>> >> > what
>>> >> > people are focusing on.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > As for your resolution, unfortunately, it will probably be best to
>>> >> > hold
>>> >> > off on SP2 until Microsoft resolves these issues.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hope this helps. If you have any other questions, please feel free
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > contact me.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Regards,
>>> >> > Jim
>>> >> > CPU Specialist
>>> >> > AMD TSC
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I also saw that you posted in these forums allready so you probably
>>> >> > allready saw this and just choose not to believe it.
>>> >> > But trust me , if you have/ever get this problem your gonna know
>>> >> > it!!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Rob
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Chris Catt" wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Hi, "There is a major problem with AMD64's", news to me, where did
>>> >> >> you
>>> >> >> get
>>> >> >> that information from. I trawl around many AMD64 forums and
>>> >> >> haven't
>>> >> >> seen
>>> >> >> any
>>> >> >> evidence that SP2 has problems with AMD64 processors. Are you
>>> >> >> maybe
>>> >> >> getting
>>> >> >> confused with SP2 having problems with motherboard bios's?
>>> >> >> Chris C
>>> >> >> "Rob" <Rob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >> news:2D9D470B-B5CF-412F-BD0F-DE16E7A85B7A@microsoft.com...
>>> >> >> > Does ANYONE have any info or links for SP2 for Win XP made
>>> >> >> > specifically
>>> >> >> > for
>>> >> >> > AMD 64 CPUs?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Not a 64bit version!! but rather SP2 made for AMD 64's running
>>> >> >> > on a
>>> >> >> > 32bit
>>> >> >> > version of XP.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > There is a major problem with AMD64's and the DEP feature in SP2
>>> >> >> > ,
>>> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> > it
>>> >> >> > was said somewhere (I can't remember where)that MS was/would be
>>> >> >> > working
>>> >> >> > on
>>> >> >> > a
>>> >> >> > special verson of SP2.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I have serched the MS site myself and come up empty , MS
>>> >> >> > FAQ's/Help
>>> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> > Support pointed me here.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Thanks
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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