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i read an earlier post on this but wanted some fresh opinions. i've
researched NEXUS: the jupiter incident; starhatter; and darkspace. what
i'm wondering are there space sim out there that are mmporg's ? Are these
them? i know about sw galaxies. i have it just don't play it anymore. the
framrate got so bad in the citys that you could hardly play it and i was
on a cable modem. What do you think of the above three?

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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:04:31 -0500, "balthazor31503"
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> what i'm wondering are there space sim out there that are mmporg's ?

www.eve-online.com

I have enjoyed EvE for more than a year now. It gets stale if you do
the same things all the time, and it *can* be very frustrating to try
to get ahead. ~10k players online at any given time in the western
world, and always someone to chat with.

regards,

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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 11:13:00 -0500, Isla Nublar <not@this.net> wrote:

>
>
>On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:04:31 -0500, "balthazor31503"
><balthazor31503@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> what i'm wondering are there space sim out there that are mmporg's ?
>
>www.eve-online.com
>
>I have enjoyed EvE for more than a year now. It gets stale if you do
>the same things all the time, and it *can* be very frustrating to try
>to get ahead. ~10k players online at any given time in the western
>world, and always someone to chat with.
>
>regards,
>
>Strange Bru

I played EVE for about a year and a half and finally left.
It's got a lot of cool features. (detailed economy, lots of
customizing options for ships, lots of ships to choose from, ect)

The main problems with it are long term bugs, and the GVP combat
system.
There's bugs in the chat channels that have been there for more than 6
months. Ships bouncing off of objects and being thrown dozens or
hundreds of KM has been there for a long time. Getting stuck on
asteroids has been there since beta. The list goes on and on.

There's no real sense of fair play in the combat either. While other
games have PVP (player VS player) EVE has GVP. (ganksquad VS player)

You see EVE has lower security space where piracy is possible. Since
it's not against the rules for stronger players to attack much weaker
ones, the fights tend to be VERY one sided. 5 or 10 against 1 isn't
unusual. If you're a new character with nothing worth stealing, you
still get blowed up just to make a pretty explosion to watch. (and
there goes all the work you put into getting that ship and equipping
it.)

Corporation and alliance wars tend to work the same way. If you have a
vastly superior force you attack. If it's an even fight or you're
outnumbered you run away and hide.

Pretty much the only fair combat against other players you get is
against friends and that takes some special organizing to set up.
(need to be in the same corp and gang to fight without loosing
security rating)

The PVE (player VS enviroment) aspect of it can be fun for a while,
but eventually some jerk is going to try and ruin your day just
because he can.

It probably sounds like I'm a disgruntled ex player who lost a lot of
stuff to pirates and ganksquads. That's not really true. I played that
game long enough to avoid most combat I didn't want and seldom lost
ships. When I left I had 280m in cash and about 200m in ships.
It just got boring to see players using the game mechanics to win at
any cost.

If you're thinking of signing up I recommend going to their web site
and reading the forums for a couple of hours to find out what the
players think of the game. (they're open to the public to read but not
post) WWW.eve-online.com


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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:12:46 GMT, Jeff Holinski <Holinski@shaw.ca>
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.... much that is true. In fact, I don't dispute a word in your post.
But the richness of the environment has helped me put up with all the
stuff you mentioned.

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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:00:54 -0500, Isla Nublar <not@this.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:12:46 GMT, Jeff Holinski <Holinski@shaw.ca>
>wrote ...
>
>... much that is true.

What is true?

>In fact, I don't dispute a word in your post.

What post?

>But the richness of the environment has helped me put up with all the
>stuff you mentioned.

Please adopt the normal courtesies of usenet, and QUOTE the post you
are responding to. Otherwise nobody else has a clue what you are
talking about.

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On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:51:55 +0000, Lemming
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>On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:00:54 -0500, Isla Nublar <not@this.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:12:46 GMT, Jeff Holinski <Holinski@shaw.ca>
>>wrote ...
>>
>>... much that is true.
>
>What is true?
>
>>In fact, I don't dispute a word in your post.
>
>What post?
>
>>But the richness of the environment has helped me put up with all the
>>stuff you mentioned.
>
>Please adopt the normal courtesies of usenet, and QUOTE the post you
>are responding to. Otherwise nobody else has a clue what you are
>talking about.
>
>Lemming

>Can I go now?
>
>Lemming
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I wish you would.
 

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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 21:06:06 -0500, Isla Nublar <not@this.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 01:51:55 +0000, Lemming
><thiswillbounce@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:00:54 -0500, Isla Nublar <not@this.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:12:46 GMT, Jeff Holinski <Holinski@shaw.ca>
>>>wrote ...
>>>
>>>... much that is true.
>>
>>What is true?
>>
>>>In fact, I don't dispute a word in your post.
>>
>>What post?
>>
>>>But the richness of the environment has helped me put up with all the
>>>stuff you mentioned.
>>
>>Please adopt the normal courtesies of usenet, and QUOTE the post you
>>are responding to. Otherwise nobody else has a clue what you are
>>talking about.
>>
>>Lemming
>
>>Can I go now?
>>
>>Lemming
>>--
>>Curiosity *may* have killed Schrodinger's cat.
>
>I wish you would.

Well, you got it half right. Maybe it's my fault: perhaps I should
have also spelled out that it's also courteous not to add to the
quoted text words which weren't originally there. Keep trying, you'll
get it eventually.

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:04:46 +0000, Lemming
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>Well, you got it half right. Maybe it's my fault: perhaps I should
>have also spelled out that it's also courteous not to add to the
>quoted text words which weren't originally there. Keep trying, you'll
>get it eventually.

You're not a Lemming. You're a pernicious little troll. And you've hit
my killfile after only two posts, which has to be a record for me.
Ten years in usenet, and no one before you has been able to convince
me so quickly of his complete uselessness. Congratulations, I guess.
 
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> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:04:46 +0000, Lemming
> <thiswillbounce@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Well, you got it half right. Maybe it's my fault: perhaps I should
> >have also spelled out that it's also courteous not to add to the
> >quoted text words which weren't originally there. Keep trying, you'll
> >get it eventually.
>
> You're not a Lemming. You're a pernicious little troll. And you've hit
> my killfile after only two posts, which has to be a record for me.
> Ten years in usenet, and no one before you has been able to convince
> me so quickly of his complete uselessness. Congratulations, I guess.

Lemming does have a strong personal zeal for excellence.
 
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 06:05:37 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
wrote:

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>"Isla Nublar" <not@this.net> wrote in message
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>> You're not a Lemming. You're a pernicious little troll. And you've hit
>> my killfile after only two posts, which has to be a record for me.
>> Ten years in usenet, and no one before you has been able to convince
>> me so quickly of his complete uselessness. Congratulations, I guess.
>
>Lemming does have a strong personal zeal for excellence.

Back in September 2004 s/he posted a couple of messages that actually
had CONTENT about space-sims. For quite some time before that, and
since from what I can see, Lemming's posts are just sniping about
netiquette with frequent forays into uncalled for nastiness.

The right way to handle that is to start a .moderated group and become
the totalitarian dick you want to be.

Also, I would appreciate a pointer to the FAQ.

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> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 06:05:37 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Isla Nublar" <not@this.net> wrote in message
> >news:cbmi11920bet478rntfn2l433mekrj6lsh@4ax.com...
> >> You're not a Lemming. You're a pernicious little troll. And you've hit
> >> my killfile after only two posts, which has to be a record for me.
> >> Ten years in usenet,

"In" usenet? Sort of like in "Tron"?

> >> and no one before you has been able to convince
> >> me so quickly of his complete uselessness. Congratulations, I guess.
> >
> >Lemming does have a strong personal zeal for excellence.

I've noticed his personal zeal is particularly strong after he's had a go at
the rollmop herring.

> Back in September 2004 s/he posted a couple of messages that actually
> had CONTENT about space-sims.

De gustibus non est disputandum: even Homer nods.

> For quite some time before that, and
> since from what I can see, Lemming's posts are just sniping about
> netiquette with frequent forays into uncalled for nastiness.
>
> The right way to handle that is to start a .moderated group and become
> the totalitarian dick you want to be.
>
> Also, I would appreciate a pointer to the FAQ.

Here is the archive you requested:

http://www.jonathonrobinson.com/3.0/web/webtsos.html

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Your onomatopoeia is inpherior.

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 23:19:32 GMT, "Bret Ripley" <ripley@olywa.net>
wrote:

>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 06:05:37 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Isla Nublar" <not@this.net> wrote in message
>> >news:cbmi11920bet478rntfn2l433mekrj6lsh@4ax.com...
>> >> You're not a Lemming. You're a pernicious little troll.

I've been called worse.

>> >>And you've hit
>> >> my killfile after only two posts, which has to be a record for me.
>> >> Ten years in usenet,

Ten years, by Kibo. That is a very long time to go without a clue.

>"In" usenet? Sort of like in "Tron"?
>
>> >> and no one before you has been able to convince
>> >> me so quickly of his complete uselessness. Congratulations, I guess.
>> >
>> >Lemming does have a strong personal zeal for excellence.
>
>I've noticed his personal zeal is particularly strong after he's had a go at
>the rollmop herring.
>
>> Back in September 2004 s/he posted a couple of messages that actually
>> had CONTENT about space-sims.

I sincerely doubt that. I haven't posted anything about space-sims on
here since about September 1999. Not since I realised that space-sims
were off topic on this froup.

>De gustibus non est disputandum: even Homer nods.

Sentio aliquos togatos contra me conspirare.

>> For quite some time before that, and
>> since from what I can see, Lemming's posts are just sniping about
>> netiquette with frequent forays into uncalled for nastiness.

Uh, oh ... I've been googled.

>> The right way to handle that is to start a .moderated group and become
>> the totalitarian dick you want to be.

When your mommy said "you should say 'please' and 'thank-you'" did you
call her a totalitarian bitch-cow? When your teachers at school
suggested you write in ink rather than crayon, did you tell them they
will be first against the wall when the revolution comes? Do you
killfile everyone who points out your dismal lack of netiquette? If
so, your bit-bucket must be fuller than DKS's.

>> Also, I would appreciate a pointer to the FAQ.

I'm still writing it. More accurately, I'm still waiting for someone
to ask some questions which aren't about Derek Smart.

>Here is the archive you requested:
>
>http://www.jonathonrobinson.com/3.0/web/webtsos.html

Yer a funny guy, Bret. Or so Br d tells me. Where is Br d anyway?

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>Your onomatopoeia is inpherior.

Since Ms. Nubbler has me killfiled, I can't read any of her posts, but
I do think the following link might be of use to her:

http://www.soft-land.org/cgi-bin/doc.pl?doc=documenti/welcome

Do you think she's getting a clue yet, after her whole ten days on -
sorry *in* - usenet?

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 06:05:37 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
wrote:

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>"Isla Nublar" <not@this.net> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:04:46 +0000, Lemming
>> <thiswillbounce@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >Well, you got it half right. Maybe it's my fault: perhaps I should
>> >have also spelled out that it's also courteous not to add to the
>> >quoted text words which weren't originally there. Keep trying, you'll
>> >get it eventually.
>>
>> You're not a Lemming. You're a pernicious little troll. And you've hit
>> my killfile after only two posts, which has to be a record for me.
>> Ten years in usenet, and no one before you has been able to convince
>> me so quickly of his complete uselessness. Congratulations, I guess.
>
>Lemming does have a strong personal zeal for excellence.

Thanks, Bill. I needed that positive affirmation after being so
ineffectually flamed by someone whose been "in" usenet for ten whole
minutes. And counting.

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 12:21:15 -0500, Isla Nublar <not@this.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 06:05:37 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Isla Nublar" <not@this.net> wrote in message
>>news:cbmi11920bet478rntfn2l433mekrj6lsh@4ax.com...
>>> You're not a Lemming. You're a pernicious little troll. And you've hit
>>> my killfile after only two posts, which has to be a record for me.
>>> Ten minutes in usenet, and no one before you has been able to convince
>>> me so quickly of his complete uselessness. Congratulations, I guess.
>>
>>Lemming does have a strong personal zeal for excellence.
>
>Back in September 2004 I posted a couple of messages that actually
>had CONTENT about space-sims. For quite some time before that, I
>just posted complete drivel. But that's OK, since I don't have much
>of a clue, nobody minded. They all just ignored me, and that's the
>way I like it.

Don't be silly, we all know you only just got a computer. How could
you have been posting drivel since before 2004?

>What I want to do most is start a .moderated group and become the
>totalitarian dick I have always wanted to be, but unfortunately since
>I've only just arrived in usenet I don't have much of a clue how to
>go about it.
>
>I would appreciate a pointer to the FAQ.
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You could try this FAQ:

http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html

Seriously, I think you'll learn a lot from it.

Not really Lemming, honest
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:20:41 +0000, Not Lemming honest
<reallynot@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>You could try this FAQ:
>
>http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html
>
>Seriously, I think you'll learn a lot from it.
>
>Not really Lemming, honest
>--
>Are you getting a clue yet, Ms. Nubbler?


My my. look at the times on these. 7:09, 7:11, 7:20.

Something held your attention for a whole 11 minutes.

And 3 new aka's for the killfile, too.

Let's talk about Homeworld. You seem to know *something* about it, at
least.

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 23:34:39 -0500, Isla Nublar <not@this.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:20:41 +0000, Not Lemming honest
><reallynot@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>You could try this FAQ:
>>
>>http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html
>>
>>Seriously, I think you'll learn a lot from it.
>>
>>Not really Lemming, honest
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>>Are you getting a clue yet, Ms. Nubbler?
>
>
>My my. look at the times on these. 7:09, 7:11, 7:20.

These what?

Yes, of course, *I* know what you are referring to, but someone coming
across your post in isolation wouldn't. If you want to communicate
well, write with your readers in mind. What do they know already?
What do they not know? Will they be able to guess what you are
talking about? Will they have access to the post before yours, or
even several posts before yours? Have you quoted enough material to
give your writing a context? Does anything need more explanation?

Try to include enough information so that people can understand what
you mean. And also remember you aren't just writing for today's
readers. Will people who dejagoogle your posts ten years from now
know what you are writing about?

>Something held your attention for a whole 11 minutes.

Consider yourself honoured, Ms. Nubbler. I took time out of my busy
schedule just to help you. You should thank me.

Incidentally, you might want to revise your logic. It's true that
eleven minutes passed between posting the first and posting the last
but you don't know how long the first took to write. (True, it wasn't
more than a couple of minutes, but you couldn't know that). Also, you
don't know that I spent the whole of the elapsed time writing them.
Assisting in your education may have been just a background task while
I was doing something else.

>And 3 new aka's for the killfile, too.

I don't think I'm likely to run out.

>Let's talk about Homeworld. You seem to know *something* about it, at
>least.

Why do you want to talk about homeworld? It's off topic for this
froup.

>Isla

It's so nice when newbies pick things up as quickly as you seem to
have. It takes some people years to learn good netiquette, but you
are beginning to pick things up after just a few days. I wish all
"Septemberers" were as receptive as you.

http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/S/September-that-never-ended.html

HTH,

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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:04:31 -0500, "balthazor31503"
<balthazor31503@yahoo.com> wrote:

>i read an earlier post on this but wanted some fresh opinions. i've
>researched NEXUS: the jupiter incident; starhatter; and darkspace. what
>i'm wondering are there space sim out there that are mmporg's ? Are these
>them? i know about sw galaxies. i have it just don't play it anymore. the
>framrate got so bad in the citys that you could hardly play it and i was
>on a cable modem. What do you think of the above three?

I very much recommend you get the demos, if available. I did not like
Starshatter much (bought the full game), and was unimpressed with the
NEXUS demo. I know nothing of Darkspace.


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"Rodent" <rodent@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 23:19:32 GMT, "Bret Ripley" <ripley@olywa.net>
> wrote:
>
> >> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 06:05:37 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Isla Nublar" <not@this.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:cbmi11920bet478rntfn2l433mekrj6lsh@4ax.com...
> >> >> You're not a Lemming. You're a pernicious little troll.
>
> I've been called worse.

*And* by people in a position to know better.

> >> >>And you've hit
> >> >> my killfile after only two posts, which has to be a record for me.
> >> >> Ten years in usenet,
>
> Ten years, by Kibo. That is a very long time to go without a clue.

Your Kibology will get you nowhere, mefears.

> >"In" usenet? Sort of like in "Tron"?
> >
> >> >> and no one before you has been able to convince
> >> >> me so quickly of his complete uselessness. Congratulations, I guess.
> >> >
> >> >Lemming does have a strong personal zeal for excellence.
> >
> >I've noticed his personal zeal is particularly strong after he's had a go
at
> >the rollmop herring.
> >
> >> Back in September 2004 s/he posted a couple of messages that actually
> >> had CONTENT about space-sims.
>
> I sincerely doubt that. I haven't posted anything about space-sims on
> here since about September 1999. Not since I realised that space-sims
> were off topic on this froup.
>
> >De gustibus non est disputandum: even Homer nods.
>
> Sentio aliquos togatos contra me conspirare.

Why should the toga wearers miss out?

> >> For quite some time before that, and
> >> since from what I can see, Lemming's posts are just sniping about
> >> netiquette with frequent forays into uncalled for nastiness.
>
> Uh, oh ... I've been googled.

I'll bet s/he skipped the ones on a.h.b-o-u.

> >> The right way to handle that is to start a .moderated group and become
> >> the totalitarian dick you want to be.
>
> When your mommy said "you should say 'please' and 'thank-you'" did you
> call her a totalitarian bitch-cow?

Maybe Mrs. Nublar deserved it. Any mother who names her child "Isla" isn't
likely to be "the right sort of people," if you pay any attention to that
sort of thing.

> When your teachers at school
> suggested you write in ink rather than crayon, did you tell them they
> will be first against the wall when the revolution comes?

That's a good one, Rod. For all we know, Isla may still be posting to
usenet in crayon.

> Do you
> killfile everyone who points out your dismal lack of netiquette? If
> so, your bit-bucket must be fuller than DKS's.
>
> >> Also, I would appreciate a pointer to the FAQ.
>
> I'm still writing it. More accurately, I'm still waiting for someone
> to ask some questions which aren't about Derek Smart.
>
> >Here is the archive you requested:
> >
> >http://www.jonathonrobinson.com/3.0/web/webtsos.html
>
> Yer a funny guy, Bret. Or so Br d tells me.

He didn't mean funny "ha ha".

> Where is Br d anyway?

Dunno. I was in the process of inviting myself over to his house this
summer when he suddenly disappeared. I'm sure he'll turn up again any time
now.

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> >Your onomatopoeia is inpherior.
>
> Since Ms. Nubbler has me killfiled, I can't read any of her posts, but
> I do think the following link might be of use to her:
>
> http://www.soft-land.org/cgi-bin/doc.pl?doc=documenti/welcome
>
> Do you think she's getting a clue yet, after her whole ten days on -
> sorry *in* - usenet?

Well, that's one for the FAQ. Proposed answer: "One night in Usenet and
the world's your oyster."

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:02:28 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
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>
>I've spent 90 mins playing the game if you wanna count loading and reloading
>trying to get the freebie version to work. But what does that have to do
>with anti-social academic frauds?
>
Sorry Bill, but spending 90 mins playing the FREE release of BC3K 2.09
doesn't actually qualify you as a BC expert.

If you are interested, I'd be more then happy to send you my boxed
copy of BCM (along with the 1.09.01 patch burned to CD),
free-o-charge, and then you can judge the game on it's merits instead
of your preconceived prejudices

It's curious though, I've never had any problems installing or running
that free release copy of BC3K. Granted, the game is moody as hell,
won't work with certain video/sound-drivers (then there is that damn
annoying save-game bug that will rise up and bite you in the ass), but
it isn't any more or less crash-prone then most games from the era.

BCM is far more stable and doesn't suffer for most of BC3K's
shortcomings. It's not perfect software, but what is?

As far as "anti-social academic frauds", being an anti-social,
beer-drinking stoner doesn't give me a whole lot of room to critisize.
You are much more "morally centered", so I will have to take your word
for it.
 
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:09:42 +0000, Rodent
<rodent@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>
>>> Also, I would appreciate a pointer to the FAQ.
>
>I'm still writing it. More accurately, I'm still waiting for someone
>to ask some questions which aren't about Derek Smart.
>
Oh please, there are plenty of posts here at s-s that have nothing to
do with Mr. "SC" Smart.

I have a question: What's the best way to get marines deployed into a
hostile mission-zone, WITHOUT triggering the early-warning radar and
activating the barracks and launch-pads? (OTS nukes are not allowed,
as they are the pussy's way out!)

>>Here is the archive you requested:
>>
>>http://www.jonathonrobinson.com/3.0/web/webtsos.html
>
>Yer a funny guy, Bret. Or so Br d tells me. Where is Br d anyway?
>

Where is Br d? Is he on Hiatus or something?


>Do you think she's getting a clue yet, after her whole ten days on -
>sorry *in* - usenet?
>
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"Shingen" <shingen@aolsuks.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:09:42 +0000, Rodent
> <rodent@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> >>> Also, I would appreciate a pointer to the FAQ.
> >
> >I'm still writing it. More accurately, I'm still waiting for someone
> >to ask some questions which aren't about Derek Smart.
> >
> Oh please, there are plenty of posts here at s-s that have nothing to
> do with Mr. "SC" Smart.
>
> I have a question: What's the best way to get marines deployed into a
> hostile mission-zone, WITHOUT triggering the early-warning radar and
> activating the barracks and launch-pads? (OTS nukes are not allowed,
> as they are the pussy's way out!)

Have you tried dressing the marines up as a troupe of lost, hungry actors?

> >>Here is the archive you requested:
> >>
> >>http://www.jonathonrobinson.com/3.0/web/webtsos.html
> >
> >Yer a funny guy, Bret. Or so Br d tells me. Where is Br d anyway?
> >
>
> Where is Br d? Is he on Hiatus or something?

Huh. I had no idea Hiatus was a Class M planet.

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:45:29 GMT, "Bret Ripley" <ripley@olywa.net>
wrote:

>Have you tried dressing the marines up as a troupe of lost, hungry actors?
>

Sadly, that option doesn't exist within the TacOps command pallete.

>> >>Here is the archive you requested:
>> >>
>> >>http://www.jonathonrobinson.com/3.0/web/webtsos.html
>> >
>> >Yer a funny guy, Bret. Or so Br d tells me. Where is Br d anyway?
>> >
>>
>> Where is Br d? Is he on Hiatus or something?
>
>Huh. I had no idea Hiatus was a Class M planet.
>

It isn't...but your Trekiness is showing. =P

>Bret
>
 

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:35:08 GMT, Shingen
<shingen@aolsuks.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:09:42 +0000, Rodent
><rodent@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I'm still writing it. More accurately, I'm still waiting for someone
>>to ask some questions which aren't about Derek Smart.
>>
>Oh please, there are plenty of posts here at s-s that have nothing to
>do with Mr. "SC" Smart.

They don't count, since any posts not about Doktor Smart or his game
are off topic for this froup.

>I have a question: What's the best way to get marines deployed into a
>hostile mission-zone, WITHOUT triggering the early-warning radar and
>activating the barracks and launch-pads? (OTS nukes are not allowed,
>as they are the pussy's way out!)

That's a question about DKS' game, so it amounts to the same thing.

Ok, so that's the first question for the FAQ.

Umm.

Any offers for the answer?

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:13:52 GMT, "Bret Ripley" <ripley@olywa.net>
wrote:

>"Rodent" <rodent@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:p7sk11h3m5787tc7o47kj6brso5h937a3g@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 23:19:32 GMT, "Bret Ripley" <ripley@olywa.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 06:05:37 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Isla Nublar" <not@this.net> wrote in message
>> >> >news:cbmi11920bet478rntfn2l433mekrj6lsh@4ax.com...
>> >> >> You're not a Lemming. You're a pernicious little troll.
>>
>> I've been called worse.
>
>*And* by people in a position to know better.

Hell, *I* have called me worse than that.

>> >> >>And you've hit
>> >> >> my killfile after only two posts, which has to be a record for me.
>> >> >> Ten years in usenet,
>>
>> Ten years, by Kibo. That is a very long time to go without a clue.
>
>Your Kibology will get you nowhere, mefears.

It's got me this far.

>> >"In" usenet? Sort of like in "Tron"?
>> >
>> >> >> and no one before you has been able to convince
>> >> >> me so quickly of his complete uselessness. Congratulations, I guess.
>> >> >
>> >> >Lemming does have a strong personal zeal for excellence.
>> >
>> >I've noticed his personal zeal is particularly strong after he's had a go
>at
>> >the rollmop herring.
>> >
>> >> Back in September 2004 s/he posted a couple of messages that actually
>> >> had CONTENT about space-sims.
>>
>> I sincerely doubt that. I haven't posted anything about space-sims on
>> here since about September 1999. Not since I realised that space-sims
>> were off topic on this froup.
>>
>> >De gustibus non est disputandum: even Homer nods.
>>
>> Sentio aliquos togatos contra me conspirare.
>
>Why should the toga wearers miss out?

Good point. They can join the queue.

>> >> For quite some time before that, and
>> >> since from what I can see, Lemming's posts are just sniping about
>> >> netiquette with frequent forays into uncalled for nastiness.
>>
>> Uh, oh ... I've been googled.
>
>I'll bet s/he skipped the ones on a.h.b-o-u.

I hate it when that happens.

>> >> The right way to handle that is to start a .moderated group and become
>> >> the totalitarian dick you want to be.
>>
>> When your mommy said "you should say 'please' and 'thank-you'" did you
>> call her a totalitarian bitch-cow?
>
>Maybe Mrs. Nublar deserved it. Any mother who names her child "Isla" isn't
>likely to be "the right sort of people," if you pay any attention to that
>sort of thing.
>
>> When your teachers at school
>> suggested you write in ink rather than crayon, did you tell them they
>> will be first against the wall when the revolution comes?
>
>That's a good one, Rod. For all we know, Isla may still be posting to
>usenet in crayon.

Posting *in* usenet, Mr. Bret. *In* usenet.

>> Do you
>> killfile everyone who points out your dismal lack of netiquette? If
>> so, your bit-bucket must be fuller than DKS's.
>>
>> >> Also, I would appreciate a pointer to the FAQ.
>>
>> I'm still writing it. More accurately, I'm still waiting for someone
>> to ask some questions which aren't about Derek Smart.
>>
>> >Here is the archive you requested:
>> >
>> >http://www.jonathonrobinson.com/3.0/web/webtsos.html
>>
>> Yer a funny guy, Bret. Or so Br d tells me.
>
>He didn't mean funny "ha ha".

Do you see anybody laughing?

>> Where is Br d anyway?
>
>Dunno. I was in the process of inviting myself over to his house this
>summer when he suddenly disappeared.

I'm starting to see a connection.

>I'm sure he'll turn up again any time
>now.

Seriously though, I do know what happened. He got plastered one night
and trashed his computer by deleting most of the system files out of
his Windoze directory. That would have been a good thing, but he
forgot to install Linux first.

Yes, that really *is* what happened. Would I lie to you?

>> >> /*
>> >> ** "Quack!"
>> >> */
>> >
>> >Your onomatopoeia is inpherior.
>>
>> Since Ms. Nubbler has me killfiled, I can't read any of her posts, but
>> I do think the following link might be of use to her:
>>
>> http://www.soft-land.org/cgi-bin/doc.pl?doc=documenti/welcome
>>
>> Do you think she's getting a clue yet, after her whole ten days on -
>> sorry *in* - usenet?
>
>Well, that's one for the FAQ. Proposed answer: "One night in Usenet and
>the world's your oyster."
>
>Bret AKA Bret

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On or about 2/22/2005 2:39:44 PM, Lemming
<thiswillbounce@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> said:
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:13:52 GMT, "Bret Ripley" <ripley@olywa.net>
> wrote:
>
>>"Rodent" <rodent@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:p7sk11h3m5787tc7o47kj6brso5h937a3g@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 23:19:32 GMT, "Bret Ripley" <ripley@olywa.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 06:05:37 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >"Isla Nublar" <not@this.net> wrote in message
>>> >> >news:cbmi11920bet478rntfn2l433mekrj6lsh@4ax.com...
>>> >> >> You're not a Lemming. You're a pernicious little troll.
>>>
>>> I've been called worse.
>>
>>*And* by people in a position to know better.
>
> Hell, *I* have called me worse than that.

Please note that your zeal for personal excellence has already been noted.

>>> >> >>And you've hit
>>> >> >> my killfile after only two posts, which has to be a record for me.
>>> >> >> Ten years in usenet,
>>>
>>> Ten years, by Kibo. That is a very long time to go without a clue.
>>
>>Your Kibology will get you nowhere, mefears.
>
> It's got me this far.

Please don't make me repeat myself.

>>> >"In" usenet? Sort of like in "Tron"?
>>> >
>>> >> >> and no one before you has been able to convince
>>> >> >> me so quickly of his complete uselessness. Congratulations, I guess.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Lemming does have a strong personal zeal for excellence.
>>> >
>>> >I've noticed his personal zeal is particularly strong after he's had a go
>>at
>>> >the rollmop herring.
>>> >
>>> >> Back in September 2004 s/he posted a couple of messages that actually
>>> >> had CONTENT about space-sims.
>>>
>>> I sincerely doubt that. I haven't posted anything about space-sims on
>>> here since about September 1999. Not since I realised that space-sims
>>> were off topic on this froup.
>>>
>>> >De gustibus non est disputandum: even Homer nods.
>>>
>>> Sentio aliquos togatos contra me conspirare.
>>
>>Why should the toga wearers miss out?
>
> Good point. They can join the queue.

In lieu of the queue they can join the line. (I'm on thin ice here, I
know.)

>>> >> For quite some time before that, and
>>> >> since from what I can see, Lemming's posts are just sniping about
>>> >> netiquette with frequent forays into uncalled for nastiness.
>>>
>>> Uh, oh ... I've been googled.
>>
>>I'll bet s/he skipped the ones on a.h.b-o-u.
>
> I hate it when that happens.
>
>>> >> The right way to handle that is to start a .moderated group and become
>>> >> the totalitarian dick you want to be.
>>>
>>> When your mommy said "you should say 'please' and 'thank-you'" did you
>>> call her a totalitarian bitch-cow?
>>
>>Maybe Mrs. Nublar deserved it. Any mother who names her child "Isla" isn't
>>likely to be "the right sort of people," if you pay any attention to that
>>sort of thing.
>>
>>> When your teachers at school
>>> suggested you write in ink rather than crayon, did you tell them they
>>> will be first against the wall when the revolution comes?
>>
>>That's a good one, Rod. For all we know, Isla may still be posting to
>>usenet in crayon.
>
> Posting *in* usenet, Mr. Bret. *In* usenet.

*In* usenet. *In* crayon. *In*conceivable.

>>> Do you
>>> killfile everyone who points out your dismal lack of netiquette? If
>>> so, your bit-bucket must be fuller than DKS's.
>>>
>>> >> Also, I would appreciate a pointer to the FAQ.
>>>
>>> I'm still writing it. More accurately, I'm still waiting for someone
>>> to ask some questions which aren't about Derek Smart.
>>>
>>> >Here is the archive you requested:
>>> >
>>> >http://www.jonathonrobinson.com/3.0/web/webtsos.html
>>>
>>> Yer a funny guy, Bret. Or so Br d tells me.
>>
>>He didn't mean funny "ha ha".
>
> Do you see anybody laughing?

I can't see a bloody thing: my optical mouse is on the blink.

>>> Where is Br d anyway?
>>
>>Dunno. I was in the process of inviting myself over to his house this
>>summer when he suddenly disappeared.
>
> I'm starting to see a connection.

Reply hazy, try again.

>>I'm sure he'll turn up again any time
>>now.
>
> Seriously though, I do know what happened. He got plastered one night
> and trashed his computer by deleting most of the system files out of
> his Windoze directory. That would have been a good thing, but he
> forgot to install Linux first.
>
> Yes, that really *is* what happened. Would I lie to you?

Your question reminds me of a story I'm about to make up: one day, a wee
lad was walking down a garden path when he noticed a butterfly resting on
an acorn squash. The wee lad says to himself, "cor blimey," he says, "that
butterfly is resting on that acorn squash and no mistake," he said. Then
the wee lad took his cricket bat (which he was carrying all along but I
forgot to mention earlier) and smashed the butterfly, the acorn squash, and
the family of small black beetles that happened to be using the acorn
squash as a summer home.

Later that very same day, the wee lad's grandfather was walking in the
garden, and discovered the smashed, broken bodies of several small black
beetles scattered about near the smashed acorn squash. Being perhaps a bit
of a coleopterist and altogether insensible to the smashed butterfly, the
grandfather gathered up the remains of the smashed black beetles and took
them to his secret underground laboratory for further study. After
determining that the smashed black beetles were of a type thought to be
extinct, he grew very angry and went looking for little Timmy (which was
the name of the wee lad with the cricket bat I forgot to mention). The
grandfather found little Timmy and accused him of smashing the small black
thought to be extinct beetles.

Little Timmy, being perhaps a bit of a lepidopterist and altogether
insensible to the smashed beetles, truthfully denied smashing those
particular insects, but quickly copped to smashing the butterfly and the
acorn squash (which no one seemed to care much about). Then little Timmy
smashed his grandfather's skull with the cricket bat I forgot to mention he
was still carrying.

So, to answer your question:

> Yes, that really *is* what happened. Would I lie to you?

The veracity of words are often rendered immaterial by what is done with
the cricket bat.

But enough about Iraq.

{whistles}

Bret